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Attn: true rec.ponders -brief update for 12-3 -from george
"Gill Passman" wrote in message ... Zëbulon wrote: "Derek Broughton" wrote in message news That's just an outright lie. I have supported Carol's right to post _in this group_ for years. I'm proud of that. I haven't a clue about, or an interest in, anything else she does on the net. ================== Nor should anyone else have an interest where else I post. Thank you ---------------------------- Isn't wherever Carol posts as Derek says a little irrelevant to the topic in hand?.....someones posting history should not make any difference in a moderated Usenet group - so I don't understand why she is trying to make a point on it.... Because it was made quite a point to me by e-mail and more than once. I believe you and I even discussed this very subject on the phone that night. nym shifting, which has happened twice today - once to Zebulon and now to Zebulon using additional characters I can't be bothered to find out how to do....is again irrelevant but very annoying and confusing (and in fact might not be that irrelevant if a poster is setting out to confuse)....Zebulon has been used as a nym in the discussion with Koi-Lo - surely during such a serious discussion such as this deciding to change your nym is confusing at the very least or disruptive at the worst.... Sorry Gill but I have a reason for changing it. I'm not trying to deceive anyone. IIRC and I have read far more of the sad history than I should have done - Derek is supporting the fundemental principle of anyone to post on Usenet without any bias on personality or behaviour elsewhere - I won't say right because anyone going out to deliberately curb the rights of others has no rights at all in my mind to be included in the little communities that occur in these groups (and before you leap on the email again Carol this is a generic statement). If you sent me an e-mail I did *not* recieve it. The moderation team also needs to consider whether nym shifting or morphing is acceptable in the moderated group along with impersonation....all of which generally tend to hint to me that people are up to no good (again generic). I would have no reason on a moderated group to change my NYM. Impersonation? Wasn't that the reason I refused to go along with you people to start with? Remember? I told all of you all I could never pull off coming back with a while new persona - to pretend to be a whole different person. To be in hiding so to speak. At that point you all turned on me and that was that. On a moderated group there is no reason to NYM change. If I chose to I would let everyone know as I did this time. Sometimes there are good reasons people change their NYMs. I'm sorry if all this crap has made you so suspicious. I'm extremely suspicious of everyone myself now so I'm sorry for us both......... -- ZB.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Attn: true rec.ponders -brief update for 12-3 -from george
On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 15:03:12 -0600, Zëbulon wrote:
Sorry Gill but I have a reason for changing it. Clue us in, why the change? Remember? I told all of you all I could never pull off coming back with a while new persona - to pretend to be a whole different person. To be in hiding so to speak. I don't see it as hiding, just not being obvious. Water under the bridge now as it won't matter in a moderated group one way or the other. ~ jan |
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Attn: true rec.ponders -brief update for 12-3 -from george
"~ janj" wrote in message ... On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 15:03:12 -0600, Zëbulon wrote: Sorry Gill but I have a reason for changing it. Clue us in, why the change? I can't believe it's not obvious to you. I'll drop you an email later tonight when I have more time. There's no use giving trolls more ideas. ;-) Remember? I told all of you all I could never pull off coming back with a while new persona - to pretend to be a whole different person. To be in hiding so to speak. I don't see it as hiding, just not being obvious. Water under the bridge now as it won't matter in a moderated group one way or the other. ~ jan Exactly - because no one can frog me there which was one reason I suggested a m. group last year. I can chose a name I like and keep it indefinitely. :-) -- ZB.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Attn: true rec.ponders -brief update for 12-3 -from george
Zëbulon wrote:
Sorry Gill but I have a reason for changing it. I'm not trying to deceive anyone. I can see no valid reason for changing your nym especially when this type of discussion is going on - other than to create confusion If you sent me an e-mail I did *not* recieve it. I certainly did not reply to your email....I did receive an email from someone saying they were you but not from an email address that I recognise as being one of yours....either you are forgetting which nyms you use to talk to people or someone was forging you....anyone, who mails me from an address I don't know ends up right away in my trash can....if it was you I think you rather proved the mixed up Ids and nym shifting point... I would have no reason on a moderated group to change my NYM. Ther is no reason to change it on an unmoderated group - especially if you then go ahead and advertise that you have done it on that unmoderated group...and especially at a time when discussions are going on as they are right now....I cannot even start to imagine the benefit to you by moving away from Koi-Lo Impersonation? Wasn't that the reason I refused to go along with you people to start with? Remember? I told all of you all I could never pull off coming back with a while new persona - to pretend to be a whole different person. So why nym shift now??? To someone who has already posted pretending to be someone other than Koi-Lo - posts on the abortion groups (your perogative) and in fact is using a nym of an established poster in Germany....beyond me.... If you had any interest in resolving this mess without things going moderated you would have done so....right now if you truly back moderation then good....time will tell if you actually will post on a moderated group.... Gill |
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Attn: true rec.ponders -brief update for 12-3 -from george
"Gill Passman" wrote in message ... Zëbulon wrote: Sorry Gill but I have a reason for changing it. I'm not trying to deceive anyone. I can see no valid reason for changing your nym especially when this type of discussion is going on - other than to create confusion I'm sorry if YOU can't see it - I and a few others can see it very well. I sent Jan the reason I changed it. If you sent me an e-mail I did *not* recieve it. I certainly did not reply to your email....I did receive an email from someone saying they were you but not from an email address that I recognise as being one of yours....either you are forgetting which nyms you use to talk to people or someone was forging you....anyone, who mails me from an address I don't know ends up right away in my trash can....if it was you I think you rather proved the mixed up Ids and nym shifting point... Then it was a FORGERY because I always sign my e-mail with my given name which is Carol. I would have no reason on a moderated group to change my NYM. Ther is no reason to change it on an unmoderated group - especially if you then go ahead and advertise that you have done it on that unmoderated group... There is a reason. and especially at a time when discussions are going on as they are right now....I cannot even start to imagine the benefit to you by moving away from Koi-Lo You wouldn't, since you probably either have some trolls killfiled or your reader is missing messages. Impersonation? Wasn't that the reason I refused to go along with you people to start with? Remember? I told all of you all I could never pull off coming back with a while new persona - to pretend to be a whole different person. So why nym shift now??? I explained it to Jan last night. Why are you giving me the 3rd degree but say nothing to the other poster here who NYM shifts constantly? To someone who has already posted pretending to be someone other than Koi-Lo - posts on the abortion groups (your perogative) and in fact is using a nym of an established poster in Germany....beyond me.... I have no idea who else may be using the same NYM or where they're from. I don't dumpster-dive people - do you? If you had any interest in resolving this mess without things going moderated you would have done so.... What would I have done? Run away because of a few vicious trolls? Gone away and try to sneak back as someone else as you asked me to do and hope the trolls didn't recognize me. How stupid do you think they are? Why even ask someone to do such a thing? And by GOD, you turned on me when I refused to try and pull such a stunt off. Get real Gill - you tried to manipulate me by *pretending* to be my friend. I knew who was behind it all. Most, if not all of them weren't even from rec.ponds. You yourself were not from this NG, but the Aquarium groups. When I refused to try and pull off this plan you all come up with, you turned on me like a dog - just like I suspected you would. Just like I was warned you would. You're right Gill, I did trust a few of the wrong people........ right now if you truly back moderation then good....time will tell if you actually will post on a moderated group.... And tell us Gill,... why wouldn't I - since I've posted here on rec.ponds for 10 years? For someone not even from this NG why all the sudden interest? -- ZB.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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