Is it better than nothing to run the air 5-6 hrs at night, or is it
better to leave it off if you aren't going to run it all the time?

I have been shading 60% the pond with a large piece of cardboard
during the day. Thanks.

If you have the so called oxygenator plants, totally submerged, or algae,
these use oxygen at night as well as the fish, so it becomes more important
to have the air running at night than during the day. If I were only going
to run it for 5-6 hours, I think that I would start around dark, or slightly
after and try to keep the oxygen levels up while the water is the hottest,
and let it coast until daylight, when the plants start producing oxygen.
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"jammer" wrote in message
...
Is it better than nothing to run the air 5-6 hrs at night, or is it
better to leave it off if you aren't going to run it all the time?

I have been shading 60% the pond with a large piece of cardboard
during the day. Thanks.

Ok, thank you very much.

On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 01:45:00 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:

If you have the so called oxygenator plants, totally submerged, or algae,
these use oxygen at night as well as the fish, so it becomes more important
to have the air running at night than during the day. If I were only going
to run it for 5-6 hours, I think that I would start around dark, or slightly
after and try to keep the oxygen levels up while the water is the hottest,
and let it coast until daylight, when the plants start producing oxygen.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"jammer" wrote in message
.. .
Is it better than nothing to run the air 5-6 hrs at night, or is it
better to leave it off if you aren't going to run it all the time?

I have been shading 60% the pond with a large piece of cardboard
during the day. Thanks.

Get up just before sunrise and see what the fish are doing. If they are all at
the surface they aren't getting enough oxygen and you should run the air
longer.


k30a

On 04 Jul 2003 03:12:10 GMT, ESPMER (K30a) wrote:


Get up just before sunrise and see what the fish are doing. If they are all at
the surface they aren't getting enough oxygen and you should run the air
longer.


k30a

Well, i was out there at 8am and they were ok. I don't do mornings. I
check it about 2-3am before i go to bed and they are ok...

Thanks

On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 22:49:11 -0500, jammer wrote:

Well, i was out there at 8am and they were ok. I don't do mornings. I
check it about 2-3am before i go to bed and they are ok...

Thanks

That didnt make a whole lot of sense. I usually do not do early
mornings, but have been out there at 8am for the last few weeks and I
can't see the fish. Then i shade it until the sun isn't shining on it,
then turn on the air at dusk and leave it until I go to bed, at which
time they are a-ok. This being their first summer, i worry. You
know....

The reason you have to look at it just before sunrise is that nothing is making
oxygen in the pond *until* the sun comes up. So if your fish are oxygen
deprived that may be the only time you will see it.

It happened in my frog bog when the frog bog had fish. I removed half the fish
right away and the problem was solved. Of course it helps to be an insominac,
have a DH whose alarm goes off at 4:45am and labradors
~who~must~get~outside~right~NOW!




k30a

On 04 Jul 2003 04:11:12 GMT, ESPMER (K30a) wrote:


The reason you have to look at it just before sunrise is that nothing is making
oxygen in the pond *until* the sun comes up. So if your fish are oxygen
deprived that may be the only time you will see it.

It happened in my frog bog when the frog bog had fish. I removed half the fish
right away and the problem was solved. Of course it helps to be an insominac,
have a DH whose alarm goes off at 4:45am and labradors
~who~must~get~outside~right~NOW!




k30a

I should proabably stop blowing off finding homes for some now pretty
large fry. There aren't that many, but too many for my pondlet. I am
"afraid" to bring them inside in an aquarium. I am "afraid" i won't
want to give them away if i do! But i think to better the pond, i will
remove them to an aquarium this weekend and look for homes. I hope
this is easier than finding homes for kittens or puppies!

during the day plants in the water make oxygen
at night when the lights go out the plants quit making oxygen and begin using it.
after the lights go out the oxygen levels start falling, continue falling until the
sun comes up.
aeration from midnight until the sun is well up is the most important time.
algae, high water temps and rotting mats of organic debris on the bottom sucking up
oxygen are the worst combinations. Ingrid


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On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 04:53:53 GMT, wrote:

during the day plants in the water make oxygen
at night when the lights go out the plants quit making oxygen and begin using it.
after the lights go out the oxygen levels start falling, continue falling until the
sun comes up.
aeration from midnight until the sun is well up is the most important time.
algae, high water temps and rotting mats of organic debris on the bottom sucking up
oxygen are the worst combinations. Ingrid


Man, i love this group!
Thanks, Doc.

Jammer, why can't you leave the air on all the time? ~ jan


On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 00:13:10 -0500, jammer wrote:

On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 04:53:53 GMT, wrote:

during the day plants in the water make oxygen
at night when the lights go out the plants quit making oxygen and begin using it.
after the lights go out the oxygen levels start falling, continue falling until the
sun comes up.
aeration from midnight until the sun is well up is the most important time.
algae, high water temps and rotting mats of organic debris on the bottom sucking up
oxygen are the worst combinations. Ingrid


Man, i love this group!
Thanks, Doc.


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 04:53:53 GMT, wrote:

during the day plants in the water make oxygen
at night when the lights go out the plants quit making oxygen and begin using it.
after the lights go out the oxygen levels start falling, continue falling until the
sun comes up.
aeration from midnight until the sun is well up is the most important time.
algae, high water temps and rotting mats of organic debris on the bottom sucking up
oxygen are the worst combinations. Ingrid


Man, i love this group!
Thanks, Doc.

Jammer, why can't you leave the air on all the time? ~ jan


On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 00:13:10 -0500, jammer wrote:

On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 04:53:53 GMT, wrote:

during the day plants in the water make oxygen
at night when the lights go out the plants quit making oxygen and begin using it.
after the lights go out the oxygen levels start falling, continue falling until the
sun comes up.
aeration from midnight until the sun is well up is the most important time.
algae, high water temps and rotting mats of organic debris on the bottom sucking up
oxygen are the worst combinations. Ingrid


Man, i love this group!
Thanks, Doc.


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 22:31:17 -0700, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

Jammer, why can't you leave the air on all the time? ~ jan


Well, I still don't have electricity out there. I haul the trouble
light out there for a pond light some nights and plug the air hose
into it. I really irritate the person who pays the electric bill when
i do that. My fish are not in distress, but with approx. 2 1/2 months
left of killer heat, I don't want my goldfish to die. The bright
orange cord placed most obnoxiously night after night, does not sway
him to buy me more electricity.

I may stress the need for air in the pond though.

"K30a" wrote in message
...

Get up just before sunrise and see what the fish are doing. If they are
all at
the surface they aren't getting enough oxygen and you should run the air
longer.

....or get rid of some fish, or buy some more weed.
--
Brian
"Let's be grateful for our Fridays and face our Mondays with good humour."