OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then
went ahead and sent it
Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Snooze" wrote in message
m...
"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
news

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1
pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same
trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?


BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian
had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the
electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him,
not your original post.

Sameer

"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
news

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1
pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?


BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian
had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the
electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him,
not your original post.

Sameer

"Snooze" wrote in message
m...
"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
news

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1
pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same
trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?


BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian
had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the
electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him,
not your original post.

Ahh, OK. I was confused.

BV.

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:20:56 -0800, joe wrote:

BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run
individual wires (black, white and ground)

Do you have a reference for this information? I've never heard it
before and some companies make fittings to accommodate running romex
into and through conduit. I'm sure there must be a situation calling
for individual wires, I just don't believe we are talking about that
situation, but I'd like to know, if you will explain it to me. Are
we talking about plastic or metal conduit? I've seen metal conduit
wired in this fashion, but never knew why because the wire wasn't long
enough to overheat with a normal load. I've listed a couple
references for using romex in conduit:

http://www.donpearman.com/forensics/...sedromex.shtml
http://www.homewiringandmore.com/hom...nduitfill.html
That URL will probably have to be put back together, but here is a
note from that page that indicates someone uses romex in conduit.
“Special Notes” When installing multi - conductor cable such as
Romex in a conduit you must calculate the actual dimensions of the
cable at it’s widest point, and figured as a circular assembly. Then
compare this area required to the 40% fill allowed for the conduit
being used.

Regards,

Hal

OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then
went ahead and sent it
Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Snooze" wrote in message
m...
"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
news

"Snooze" wrote in message
. com...
Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying,
"See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1
pipe!"

Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same
trench
not the same conduit. Was that clear?


BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian
had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the
electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him,
not your original post.

Sameer

"Nedra" wrote in message
link.net...
OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then
went ahead and sent it
Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on.


It's okay, but now you're in debt to me. The price is should we ever meet,
you owe me one serving of whatever your favorite dessert is. Unless it's
creme brulee, then it's 2 servings.

Sameer

"Nedra" wrote in message
link.net...
OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then
went ahead and sent it
Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on.


It's okay, but now you're in debt to me. The price is should we ever meet,
you owe me one serving of whatever your favorite dessert is. Unless it's
creme brulee, then it's 2 servings.

Sameer

BenignVanilla wrote:
Right now, when I want to fill the pond, I drag a hose out from the
house. If I wanted to put a spigot out back by the pond, what would
be the best material to use? Can I bury it in the same trench that I
am using for an electrical conduit?

-- BV. www.iheartmypond.com

PVC and yes u can use the same trencnh but put the water line below
the elec conduit at least a foot
I 'think if you look through my pond site you can see my outlet, its 1"
PVC with a ball valve

John Rutz

BenignVanilla wrote:
Right now, when I want to fill the pond, I drag a hose out from the
house. If I wanted to put a spigot out back by the pond, what would
be the best material to use? Can I bury it in the same trench that I
am using for an electrical conduit?

-- BV. www.iheartmypond.com

PVC and yes u can use the same trencnh but put the water line below
the elec conduit at least a foot
I 'think if you look through my pond site you can see my outlet, its 1"
PVC with a ball valve

John Rutz

OK I ran romex through condiut for my old trailer,for 50 ft the line is
still in opweration aftr 10 yrs
when we wired the pond the romex is in conduit, its required by the
bldg code if its exposed(NOT INSIDE A WALL) or buried

John RUTZ

Hal wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:20:56 -0800, joe wrote:


BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run
individual wires (black, white and ground)


Do you have a reference for this information? I've never heard it
before and some companies make fittings to accommodate running romex
into and through conduit. I'm sure there must be a situation calling
for individual wires, I just don't believe we are talking about that
situation, but I'd like to know, if you will explain it to me. Are
we talking about plastic or metal conduit? I've seen metal conduit
wired in this fashion, but never knew why because the wire wasn't long
enough to overheat with a normal load. I've listed a couple
references for using romex in conduit:

http://www.donpearman.com/forensics/...sedromex.shtml
http://www.homewiringandmore.com/hom...nduitfill.html
That URL will probably have to be put back together, but here is a
note from that page that indicates someone uses romex in conduit.
“Special Notes” When installing multi - conductor cable such as
Romex in a conduit you must calculate the actual dimensions of the
cable at it’s widest point, and figured as a circular assembly. Then
compare this area required to the 40% fill allowed for the conduit
being used.

Regards,

Hal

OK I ran romex through condiut for my old trailer,for 50 ft the line is
still in opweration aftr 10 yrs
when we wired the pond the romex is in conduit, its required by the
bldg code if its exposed(NOT INSIDE A WALL) or buried

John RUTZ

Hal wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:20:56 -0800, joe wrote:


BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run
individual wires (black, white and ground)


Do you have a reference for this information? I've never heard it
before and some companies make fittings to accommodate running romex
into and through conduit. I'm sure there must be a situation calling
for individual wires, I just don't believe we are talking about that
situation, but I'd like to know, if you will explain it to me. Are
we talking about plastic or metal conduit? I've seen metal conduit
wired in this fashion, but never knew why because the wire wasn't long
enough to overheat with a normal load. I've listed a couple
references for using romex in conduit:

http://www.donpearman.com/forensics/...sedromex.shtml
http://www.homewiringandmore.com/hom...nduitfill.html
That URL will probably have to be put back together, but here is a
note from that page that indicates someone uses romex in conduit.
“Special Notes” When installing multi - conductor cable such as
Romex in a conduit you must calculate the actual dimensions of the
cable at it’s widest point, and figured as a circular assembly. Then
compare this area required to the 40% fill allowed for the conduit
being used.

Regards,

Hal

john wrote:
OK I ran romex through condiut for my old trailer,for 50 ft the line is
still in opweration aftr 10 yrs
when we wired the pond the romex is in conduit, its required by the
bldg code if its exposed(NOT INSIDE A WALL) or buried

John RUTZ

oops should of said if its direct burial cable it has to be 4 ft down

john wrote:
OK I ran romex through condiut for my old trailer,for 50 ft the line is
still in opweration aftr 10 yrs
when we wired the pond the romex is in conduit, its required by the
bldg code if its exposed(NOT INSIDE A WALL) or buried

John RUTZ

oops should of said if its direct burial cable it has to be 4 ft down

Grey PVC for electric and white for water. Works great.

Jim

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"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
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"Ka30P" wrote in message
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BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an
electrical conduit?

ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the
backyard
and
hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his
better
days...
You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else
might
not.
And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right
up
there as mischief just waiting to happen.


Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two
romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If
someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will
a
little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have
GFI's?

BV.

Grey PVC for electric and white for water. Works great.

Jim

--
______________________________________________
See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley
Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per child) at: jogathon.net
______________________________________________
"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
...

"Ka30P" wrote in message
...
BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an
electrical conduit?

ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the
backyard
and
hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his
better
days...
You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else
might
not.
And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right
up
there as mischief just waiting to happen.


Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two
romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If
someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will
a
little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have
GFI's?

BV.