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12-03-2004, 08:59 PM
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PVC vrs. ABS
I have been reading all messages in rec.ponds and notice that everyone
is talking about using PVC for plumbing. Why? A plumber friend of mine told me that PVC is more expensive than ABS, it does not stand to cold weather as ABS and it sticks out like a sore thumb (white/black). Any input? Rich Holub |
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12-03-2004, 11:26 PM
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PVC vrs. ABS
"Richard Holub" wrote in message nk.net... I have been reading all messages in rec.ponds and notice that everyone is talking about using PVC for plumbing. Why? A plumber friend of mine told me that PVC is more expensive than ABS, it does not stand to cold weather as ABS and it sticks out like a sore thumb (white/black). Any input? Good question...I look forward to the answers. I am guessing it has something to do with pressure. I know that in my house, which is about 18 years old, the vent pipes are black ABS, but all drains are white PVC. BV. |
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12-03-2004, 11:26 PM
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PVC vrs. ABS
"Richard Holub" wrote in message nk.net... I have been reading all messages in rec.ponds and notice that everyone is talking about using PVC for plumbing. Why? A plumber friend of mine told me that PVC is more expensive than ABS, it does not stand to cold weather as ABS and it sticks out like a sore thumb (white/black). Any input? Good question...I look forward to the answers. I am guessing it has something to do with pressure. I know that in my house, which is about 18 years old, the vent pipes are black ABS, but all drains are white PVC. BV. |
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12-03-2004, 11:34 PM
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PVC vrs. ABS
"BenignVanilla" wrote:
"Richard Holub" wrote in message ink.net... I have been reading all messages in rec.ponds and notice that everyone is talking about using PVC for plumbing. Why? A plumber friend of mine told me that PVC is more expensive than ABS, it does not stand to cold weather as ABS and it sticks out like a sore thumb (white/black). Any input? Good question...I look forward to the answers. I am guessing it has something to do with pressure. I know that in my house, which is about 18 years old, the vent pipes are black ABS, but all drains are white PVC. Yes, wall thickness. The outside diameter remains the same, so the same fitting will work. DWV (Green) is Schedule 10 (I think) 4" and above. ABS is like Schedule 20 PVC (white) is 40 PVC (dk gray) is 80 Each has a higher pressure rating, from almost none to very high. Iron pipe (schedule 10, 20, etc), and copper (K,L,M) tubing, use the same mechanism. AFAIK ABS is used in irrigation. It uses a different solvent (glue) than PVC, although you can get a combo glue that does it all. IMHO the dark nature of ABS, and resulting difficulty in inspecting joints, plays a part in why it isn't used in construction. Personally, as a home owner doing some remodeling work, using the PVC is fine with me. |
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12-03-2004, 11:34 PM
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PVC vrs. ABS
"BenignVanilla" wrote:
"Richard Holub" wrote in message ink.net... I have been reading all messages in rec.ponds and notice that everyone is talking about using PVC for plumbing. Why? A plumber friend of mine told me that PVC is more expensive than ABS, it does not stand to cold weather as ABS and it sticks out like a sore thumb (white/black). Any input? Good question...I look forward to the answers. I am guessing it has something to do with pressure. I know that in my house, which is about 18 years old, the vent pipes are black ABS, but all drains are white PVC. Yes, wall thickness. The outside diameter remains the same, so the same fitting will work. DWV (Green) is Schedule 10 (I think) 4" and above. ABS is like Schedule 20 PVC (white) is 40 PVC (dk gray) is 80 Each has a higher pressure rating, from almost none to very high. Iron pipe (schedule 10, 20, etc), and copper (K,L,M) tubing, use the same mechanism. AFAIK ABS is used in irrigation. It uses a different solvent (glue) than PVC, although you can get a combo glue that does it all. IMHO the dark nature of ABS, and resulting difficulty in inspecting joints, plays a part in why it isn't used in construction. Personally, as a home owner doing some remodeling work, using the PVC is fine with me. |
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12-03-2004, 11:40 PM
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PVC vrs. ABS
"Richard Holub" wrote in message nk.net... I have been reading all messages in rec.ponds and notice that everyone is talking about using PVC for plumbing. Why? A plumber friend of mine told me that PVC is more expensive than ABS, it does not stand to cold weather as ABS and it sticks out like a sore thumb (white/black). Any input? Good question...I look forward to the answers. I am guessing it has something to do with pressure. I know that in my house, which is about 18 years old, the vent pipes are black ABS, but all drains are white PVC. BV. |
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12-03-2004, 11:49 PM
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PVC vrs. ABS
"BenignVanilla" wrote:
"Richard Holub" wrote in message ink.net... I have been reading all messages in rec.ponds and notice that everyone is talking about using PVC for plumbing. Why? A plumber friend of mine told me that PVC is more expensive than ABS, it does not stand to cold weather as ABS and it sticks out like a sore thumb (white/black). Any input? Good question...I look forward to the answers. I am guessing it has something to do with pressure. I know that in my house, which is about 18 years old, the vent pipes are black ABS, but all drains are white PVC. Yes, wall thickness. The outside diameter remains the same, so the same fitting will work. DWV (Green) is Schedule 10 (I think) 4" and above. ABS is like Schedule 20 PVC (white) is 40 PVC (dk gray) is 80 Each has a higher pressure rating, from almost none to very high. Iron pipe (schedule 10, 20, etc), and copper (K,L,M) tubing, use the same mechanism. AFAIK ABS is used in irrigation. It uses a different solvent (glue) than PVC, although you can get a combo glue that does it all. IMHO the dark nature of ABS, and resulting difficulty in inspecting joints, plays a part in why it isn't used in construction. Personally, as a home owner doing some remodeling work, using the PVC is fine with me. |
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13-03-2004, 04:12 AM
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PVC vrs. ABS
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:57:29 GMT, Richard Holub
wrote: I have been reading all messages in rec.ponds and notice that everyone is talking about using PVC for plumbing. Why? A plumber friend of mine told me that PVC is more expensive than ABS, it does not stand to cold weather as ABS and it sticks out like a sore thumb (white/black). Any input? I pump water up about 30" through a 1 1/2" ABS pipe with an 1800 gph pump. Pressure is not an issue for me and many of my joints aren't cemented, just slipped together. Makes a small water fall work and circulates the pond about every hour. Cold isn't a major issue in Middle Georgia either. Regards, Hal |
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