Thanks for the update.

Kate

"Roy" wrote in message
...
| Well I have been keeping an eye on the Wal Mart dumpster for when they
| dump those liners. They are not currently anywhere outside like they
| used to be but have yet to be dumped. While I was waiting for the
| manager to talk to about those liners the other day I had spotted a
| Water Gardening book, but forgot to pick it up before I left. Anyway
| today I was at the other Wal Mart on the other side of
| town..........which I have to say is like being in a whole different
| world compared to the one I was at first. There foks were busy cleanin
| g up lawn and garden items, taking care of plants etc, unlike the
| other store who is usually busy dumping cartons of dead wilted plants
| etc. I spotted a preformed pond with a three tier cascade water fall
| and pump and fountain and started to look at it. It was marked at $79.
| They had 9 in stock full complete pond kits contaiing a 600gph pump,
| filter, foutain and the two preforms with thre larger pond itself
| being a 90 gal cap. Made by Marcote (SP?) Smae liner along sells for
| over $120 at most home builder stores like HD and Lowes. I inquired
| if they had the water gardeing book I was looking for, (they did not)
| and I mentioned, that I was now forced to go back to the "other"
| walmart and get it. I then asked the person who happened to be the
| ast. mgr in the garden center how was it that they had complete pond
| kits on the shelf there but the other store had a heap of just liners
| fixing to get trashed.........or do you soon plan on trashing those
| kits too. He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"
|
| What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
| and ordered more than he needed. He did not have place to display them
| all so he got the bright idea to break all the kits down and stack
| liners in side liners and all parts in the top liner........Well one
| thing lead to another and soon most parts were scattered all over.
| Since none of the items were intended to be sold individually those
| that cropped up laying here and there were tossed as they were not on
| inventory per se as a single type item (pump, filter etc etc) This
| clown also did the same with his overstock of wheel
| barrows..........put all the tubs in one pile and piled in the wheels
| and attaching hardware etc to conserve shelf space. Anyhow he
| "managed" (he was a manager wasn't he?) to cost the company a few
| bucks of lost merchandise and is no longer employed at the store, due
| to this and his inept ability to manage folks yet alone merchandise.
| Also found out that store had the highest rate of returns on dead or
| inferior plants. The plant supplier puts out a good product, and
| warrants it, however they only warrant it one time to Wal MArt, plant
| for plant, after that its Wal MArts loss on additional plants.
| Needless to say plants and in general anything in the lawn and garden
| department was not taken care of properly, right down to the lawn
| tractors etc. They also trashed a heap of well used and abused lawn
| furniture as well that was literally setup and set outside and foks
| just used as casual gathering places, and suceeded in trashing most of
| it......So anyhow since the pond liners were never intended to be sold
| individually they had to be cut up and thrown out........As far as
| this other manager that was telling me this knew Wal MArt took the hit
| on that and a lot of other screwups this manager made, who in th end
| sufficiently screwed up enough to cost him his job. This particular
| store is in a not too good side of town and clientel are not the
| worlds greatest, and evidently they hire managers and clerks that go
| hand in hand with the clientel they serve.
|
| So I can;t really find fault with Wally World on this issue to a
| certain point, wrong as it may seem by destroying the liners. They
| have a given policy and they try and hold to the policy and to
| introduce items not normally stocked on on a location list would foul
| up things overall.
|
| Sorry for the rant!
| Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
| Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
| I had no input whatsoever.
| Remove "nospam" from email addy.

Thanks for the update.

Kate

"Roy" wrote in message
...
| Well I have been keeping an eye on the Wal Mart dumpster for when they
| dump those liners. They are not currently anywhere outside like they
| used to be but have yet to be dumped. While I was waiting for the
| manager to talk to about those liners the other day I had spotted a
| Water Gardening book, but forgot to pick it up before I left. Anyway
| today I was at the other Wal Mart on the other side of
| town..........which I have to say is like being in a whole different
| world compared to the one I was at first. There foks were busy cleanin
| g up lawn and garden items, taking care of plants etc, unlike the
| other store who is usually busy dumping cartons of dead wilted plants
| etc. I spotted a preformed pond with a three tier cascade water fall
| and pump and fountain and started to look at it. It was marked at $79.
| They had 9 in stock full complete pond kits contaiing a 600gph pump,
| filter, foutain and the two preforms with thre larger pond itself
| being a 90 gal cap. Made by Marcote (SP?) Smae liner along sells for
| over $120 at most home builder stores like HD and Lowes. I inquired
| if they had the water gardeing book I was looking for, (they did not)
| and I mentioned, that I was now forced to go back to the "other"
| walmart and get it. I then asked the person who happened to be the
| ast. mgr in the garden center how was it that they had complete pond
| kits on the shelf there but the other store had a heap of just liners
| fixing to get trashed.........or do you soon plan on trashing those
| kits too. He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"
|
| What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
| and ordered more than he needed. He did not have place to display them
| all so he got the bright idea to break all the kits down and stack
| liners in side liners and all parts in the top liner........Well one
| thing lead to another and soon most parts were scattered all over.
| Since none of the items were intended to be sold individually those
| that cropped up laying here and there were tossed as they were not on
| inventory per se as a single type item (pump, filter etc etc) This
| clown also did the same with his overstock of wheel
| barrows..........put all the tubs in one pile and piled in the wheels
| and attaching hardware etc to conserve shelf space. Anyhow he
| "managed" (he was a manager wasn't he?) to cost the company a few
| bucks of lost merchandise and is no longer employed at the store, due
| to this and his inept ability to manage folks yet alone merchandise.
| Also found out that store had the highest rate of returns on dead or
| inferior plants. The plant supplier puts out a good product, and
| warrants it, however they only warrant it one time to Wal MArt, plant
| for plant, after that its Wal MArts loss on additional plants.
| Needless to say plants and in general anything in the lawn and garden
| department was not taken care of properly, right down to the lawn
| tractors etc. They also trashed a heap of well used and abused lawn
| furniture as well that was literally setup and set outside and foks
| just used as casual gathering places, and suceeded in trashing most of
| it......So anyhow since the pond liners were never intended to be sold
| individually they had to be cut up and thrown out........As far as
| this other manager that was telling me this knew Wal MArt took the hit
| on that and a lot of other screwups this manager made, who in th end
| sufficiently screwed up enough to cost him his job. This particular
| store is in a not too good side of town and clientel are not the
| worlds greatest, and evidently they hire managers and clerks that go
| hand in hand with the clientel they serve.
|
| So I can;t really find fault with Wally World on this issue to a
| certain point, wrong as it may seem by destroying the liners. They
| have a given policy and they try and hold to the policy and to
| introduce items not normally stocked on on a location list would foul
| up things overall.
|
| Sorry for the rant!
| Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
| Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
| I had no input whatsoever.
| Remove "nospam" from email addy.

So what you're telling us is that this was a Rosanne Rosandana story.
Nevermind
Bill

"Roy" wrote in message
...
Well I have been keeping an eye on the Wal Mart dumpster for when they
dump those liners. They are not currently anywhere outside like they
used to be but have yet to be dumped. While I was waiting for the
manager to talk to about those liners the other day I had spotted a
Water Gardening book, but forgot to pick it up before I left. Anyway
today I was at the other Wal Mart on the other side of
town..........which I have to say is like being in a whole different
world compared to the one I was at first. There foks were busy cleanin
g up lawn and garden items, taking care of plants etc, unlike the
other store who is usually busy dumping cartons of dead wilted plants
etc. I spotted a preformed pond with a three tier cascade water fall
and pump and fountain and started to look at it. It was marked at $79.
They had 9 in stock full complete pond kits contaiing a 600gph pump,
filter, foutain and the two preforms with thre larger pond itself
being a 90 gal cap. Made by Marcote (SP?) Smae liner along sells for
over $120 at most home builder stores like HD and Lowes. I inquired
if they had the water gardeing book I was looking for, (they did not)
and I mentioned, that I was now forced to go back to the "other"
walmart and get it. I then asked the person who happened to be the
ast. mgr in the garden center how was it that they had complete pond
kits on the shelf there but the other store had a heap of just liners
fixing to get trashed.........or do you soon plan on trashing those
kits too. He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"

What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
and ordered more than he needed. He did not have place to display them
all so he got the bright idea to break all the kits down and stack
liners in side liners and all parts in the top liner........Well one
thing lead to another and soon most parts were scattered all over.
Since none of the items were intended to be sold individually those
that cropped up laying here and there were tossed as they were not on
inventory per se as a single type item (pump, filter etc etc) This
clown also did the same with his overstock of wheel
barrows..........put all the tubs in one pile and piled in the wheels
and attaching hardware etc to conserve shelf space. Anyhow he
"managed" (he was a manager wasn't he?) to cost the company a few
bucks of lost merchandise and is no longer employed at the store, due
to this and his inept ability to manage folks yet alone merchandise.
Also found out that store had the highest rate of returns on dead or
inferior plants. The plant supplier puts out a good product, and
warrants it, however they only warrant it one time to Wal MArt, plant
for plant, after that its Wal MArts loss on additional plants.
Needless to say plants and in general anything in the lawn and garden
department was not taken care of properly, right down to the lawn
tractors etc. They also trashed a heap of well used and abused lawn
furniture as well that was literally setup and set outside and foks
just used as casual gathering places, and suceeded in trashing most of
it......So anyhow since the pond liners were never intended to be sold
individually they had to be cut up and thrown out........As far as
this other manager that was telling me this knew Wal MArt took the hit
on that and a lot of other screwups this manager made, who in th end
sufficiently screwed up enough to cost him his job. This particular
store is in a not too good side of town and clientel are not the
worlds greatest, and evidently they hire managers and clerks that go
hand in hand with the clientel they serve.

So I can;t really find fault with Wally World on this issue to a
certain point, wrong as it may seem by destroying the liners. They
have a given policy and they try and hold to the policy and to
introduce items not normally stocked on on a location list would foul
up things overall.

Sorry for the rant!
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.

So what you're telling us is that this was a Rosanne Rosandana story.
Nevermind
Bill

"Roy" wrote in message
...
Well I have been keeping an eye on the Wal Mart dumpster for when they
dump those liners. They are not currently anywhere outside like they
used to be but have yet to be dumped. While I was waiting for the
manager to talk to about those liners the other day I had spotted a
Water Gardening book, but forgot to pick it up before I left. Anyway
today I was at the other Wal Mart on the other side of
town..........which I have to say is like being in a whole different
world compared to the one I was at first. There foks were busy cleanin
g up lawn and garden items, taking care of plants etc, unlike the
other store who is usually busy dumping cartons of dead wilted plants
etc. I spotted a preformed pond with a three tier cascade water fall
and pump and fountain and started to look at it. It was marked at $79.
They had 9 in stock full complete pond kits contaiing a 600gph pump,
filter, foutain and the two preforms with thre larger pond itself
being a 90 gal cap. Made by Marcote (SP?) Smae liner along sells for
over $120 at most home builder stores like HD and Lowes. I inquired
if they had the water gardeing book I was looking for, (they did not)
and I mentioned, that I was now forced to go back to the "other"
walmart and get it. I then asked the person who happened to be the
ast. mgr in the garden center how was it that they had complete pond
kits on the shelf there but the other store had a heap of just liners
fixing to get trashed.........or do you soon plan on trashing those
kits too. He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"

What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
and ordered more than he needed. He did not have place to display them
all so he got the bright idea to break all the kits down and stack
liners in side liners and all parts in the top liner........Well one
thing lead to another and soon most parts were scattered all over.
Since none of the items were intended to be sold individually those
that cropped up laying here and there were tossed as they were not on
inventory per se as a single type item (pump, filter etc etc) This
clown also did the same with his overstock of wheel
barrows..........put all the tubs in one pile and piled in the wheels
and attaching hardware etc to conserve shelf space. Anyhow he
"managed" (he was a manager wasn't he?) to cost the company a few
bucks of lost merchandise and is no longer employed at the store, due
to this and his inept ability to manage folks yet alone merchandise.
Also found out that store had the highest rate of returns on dead or
inferior plants. The plant supplier puts out a good product, and
warrants it, however they only warrant it one time to Wal MArt, plant
for plant, after that its Wal MArts loss on additional plants.
Needless to say plants and in general anything in the lawn and garden
department was not taken care of properly, right down to the lawn
tractors etc. They also trashed a heap of well used and abused lawn
furniture as well that was literally setup and set outside and foks
just used as casual gathering places, and suceeded in trashing most of
it......So anyhow since the pond liners were never intended to be sold
individually they had to be cut up and thrown out........As far as
this other manager that was telling me this knew Wal MArt took the hit
on that and a lot of other screwups this manager made, who in th end
sufficiently screwed up enough to cost him his job. This particular
store is in a not too good side of town and clientel are not the
worlds greatest, and evidently they hire managers and clerks that go
hand in hand with the clientel they serve.

So I can;t really find fault with Wally World on this issue to a
certain point, wrong as it may seem by destroying the liners. They
have a given policy and they try and hold to the policy and to
introduce items not normally stocked on on a location list would foul
up things overall.

Sorry for the rant!
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.

"Peter Crowl" wrote in message
ink.net...
Without reading every post in this thread - so at the risk of
duplication -
has anybody considered that the vendor might have credited Wal-Mart for
these liners...it would probably cost too much to send back a dozen
liners...more than they're worth..and if so Wal-Mart would have been
required to destroy them

There is a similar example in book stores. Paperbacks that don't sell
...management is instructed to tear off the covers and dispose of them.

Peter
=================
All this waste and some people in the USA are going to bed hungry every
night. Old folks can afford their meds and the homeless population
grows....
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"Do stars clean themselves with meteor showers?"
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Peter Crowl" wrote in message
ink.net...
Without reading every post in this thread - so at the risk of
duplication -
has anybody considered that the vendor might have credited Wal-Mart for
these liners...it would probably cost too much to send back a dozen
liners...more than they're worth..and if so Wal-Mart would have been
required to destroy them

There is a similar example in book stores. Paperbacks that don't sell
...management is instructed to tear off the covers and dispose of them.

Peter
=================
All this waste and some people in the USA are going to bed hungry every
night. Old folks can afford their meds and the homeless population
grows....
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"Do stars clean themselves with meteor showers?"
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"SVTKate" wrote in message
hlink.net...

The plants just befuddle me. Why would they choose to let something die
and
return it for credit rather than mark it down and let it find a home. I
hate
to see dying plants.

Kate
========================
They die because nobody CARES! You have overworked employees making the
minimum wage and working lousy shifts. Most don't know a geranium from a
palm tree. Do you think they want to stand out there in the hot sun with a
hose? Even if they had the TIME to do it? They're just putting in time for
their measly pay check and the store managers don't care either. Look at
the horrible conditions in their old pet depts. No one cared that there
were tanks of DEAD stinking fish, starving hamsters and birds going belly up
for lack of water. Myself and a few friends used to call a main/district
office in Nashville and complain constantly, weekly - sometimes almost
daily. They finally got rid of the live pets and fish to our great joy.
These stores are all to CHEAP to hire a person to do nothing but CARE for
and water the plants and living things they carry. I doubt they'd go
bankrupt if they hired some oldster part time to come in daily and at least
make sure everything was watered.
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"Do stars clean themselves with meteor showers?"
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"SVTKate" wrote in message
hlink.net...

The plants just befuddle me. Why would they choose to let something die
and
return it for credit rather than mark it down and let it find a home. I
hate
to see dying plants.

Kate
========================
They die because nobody CARES! You have overworked employees making the
minimum wage and working lousy shifts. Most don't know a geranium from a
palm tree. Do you think they want to stand out there in the hot sun with a
hose? Even if they had the TIME to do it? They're just putting in time for
their measly pay check and the store managers don't care either. Look at
the horrible conditions in their old pet depts. No one cared that there
were tanks of DEAD stinking fish, starving hamsters and birds going belly up
for lack of water. Myself and a few friends used to call a main/district
office in Nashville and complain constantly, weekly - sometimes almost
daily. They finally got rid of the live pets and fish to our great joy.
These stores are all to CHEAP to hire a person to do nothing but CARE for
and water the plants and living things they carry. I doubt they'd go
bankrupt if they hired some oldster part time to come in daily and at least
make sure everything was watered.
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"Do stars clean themselves with meteor showers?"
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"SVTKate" wrote in message
hlink.net...

The plants just befuddle me. Why would they choose to let something die
and
return it for credit rather than mark it down and let it find a home. I
hate
to see dying plants.

Kate
========================
They die because nobody CARES! You have overworked employees making the
minimum wage and working lousy shifts. Most don't know a geranium from a
palm tree. Do you think they want to stand out there in the hot sun with a
hose? Even if they had the TIME to do it? They're just putting in time for
their measly pay check and the store managers don't care either. Look at
the horrible conditions in their old pet depts. No one cared that there
were tanks of DEAD stinking fish, starving hamsters and birds going belly up
for lack of water. Myself and a few friends used to call a main/district
office in Nashville and complain constantly, weekly - sometimes almost
daily. They finally got rid of the live pets and fish to our great joy.
These stores are all to CHEAP to hire a person to do nothing but CARE for
and water the plants and living things they carry. I doubt they'd go
bankrupt if they hired some oldster part time to come in daily and at least
make sure everything was watered.
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"Do stars clean themselves with meteor showers?"
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(Roy)

He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"

What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
and ordered more than he needed.

Whatever you were told must have been done for the sake of either
entertainment, or keeping the story short. WalMart managers do not "order"
anything. Everything from how much of, and what type of stock, and where it is
displayed is decided by others, elsewhere.

As far as the summation about the rest of the retail shannanigans...
(Overworked employees, hours cut, pesky customers) U.S.A. is headed for hell in
a handbasket until we turn around this corporate infused idea that cheaper is
always better.

You can't complain about WalMart - you get exactly what you pay for in terms of
product and employee character.

(Roy)

He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"

What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
and ordered more than he needed.

Whatever you were told must have been done for the sake of either
entertainment, or keeping the story short. WalMart managers do not "order"
anything. Everything from how much of, and what type of stock, and where it is
displayed is decided by others, elsewhere.

As far as the summation about the rest of the retail shannanigans...
(Overworked employees, hours cut, pesky customers) U.S.A. is headed for hell in
a handbasket until we turn around this corporate infused idea that cheaper is
always better.

You can't complain about WalMart - you get exactly what you pay for in terms of
product and employee character.

(Roy)

He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"

What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
and ordered more than he needed.

Whatever you were told must have been done for the sake of either
entertainment, or keeping the story short. WalMart managers do not "order"
anything. Everything from how much of, and what type of stock, and where it is
displayed is decided by others, elsewhere.

As far as the summation about the rest of the retail shannanigans...
(Overworked employees, hours cut, pesky customers) U.S.A. is headed for hell in
a handbasket until we turn around this corporate infused idea that cheaper is
always better.

You can't complain about WalMart - you get exactly what you pay for in terms of
product and employee character.

"SVTKate" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I gave up retail management several years ago.
Corporate was the reason, that and my feet were killing
me.

Perhaps if you walk a mile in a retail employee's shoes
you won't be so
quick to spout off.
Yep, there are employees that goof off. You get it in
every line of work.
The percentage of people that look down on customer
service personnel in is
much too high.


I agree with you, I worked retail for a lot of years. You
have people come in that you can tell never worked a day in
retail in all of their lives; and they will be very rude and
condescending to hard working people. I developed a theory
back then that I still hardily believe. People should have
to get a shopping license, and in order to earn their
shopping license they should have to work in retail for just
a few days. It would be a learning experience for them.
Now I have a professional job, but I am still kind to
workers I see doing their best and can clearly identify one
that is not behaving professionally and complain in an
appropriate manner.


I do not know if you have ever worked customer service,
but again, I suggest
that those of you that condemn them walk a mile in the
other guy's shoes.
The treatment received from all sides is difficult to deal
with. Eventually
you have to fight to prevent becoming calloused. The
working people are not
fond of the goof offs either but corporate makes it very
difficult to get
rid of them.

Kate


"Mrs. Fricker" wrote in message
...
| "SVTKate" wrote:
|
| If you want to blame someone, blame the sorporation,
not the
| employees. The company is to blame 80% of the time.
|
| It sounds like you don't like your job. Have you tried
a different line
| of work. If you have to go around blaming people perhaps
you aren't busy
| enough.

"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...

All this waste and some people in the USA are going to bed hungry every
night. Old folks can afford their meds and the homeless population
grows....
^^^^^^^
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...

ITYM, "Can't" which may mean you have skipped yours for the day? ;-)

One of the things that I notice is the number of people taking massive
amounts of toxic prescription drugs who refuse to do the obvious things to
lead a healthier life and then want us to pay for all the drugs. Sheesh.
--
Crashj

"SVTKate" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I gave up retail management several years ago.
Corporate was the reason, that and my feet were killing me.
snip

My parents think they forced me to go to college...what they don't know is
that I just didn't like working hard enough to stay in retail. I don't know
how you retailers do it.

BV.