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filter through peat
Hi,
I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually do this & what type of peat do you use? I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? Any help gladly received! Sky |
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makes for tea colored water. gets some muriatic acid. dilute (always acid into
water) and drip it slowly into stream of returning water until desired pH is reached. actually... first, what is your pH? Ingrid "SkyCatcher" wrote: Hi, I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually do this & what type of peat do you use? I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? Any help gladly received! Sky ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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Er... You mean Baking *Soda*... Baking *powder* will only make your
flower biscuits rise.... (Pun intended.) (And, it's always been my belief that these are only quick fixes; they do nothing to solve the problem of what's actually raising or lowering the pH. Of course, I'm not above using the quick fix from time to time...) --Bryan On 8/26/2004 9:06 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it typed:BR Snip You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why snip -- ************************************************** ********** * Can't see the Forest | Bryan B. * * Through the Trees? | "Ho, Ho, Ho!" Santa * * Take it out! | accused as he went * * (Damn Viruses!) | through his list. * ************************************************** ********** |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:46:48 GMT, BryanB
wrote: ===Er... You mean Baking *Soda*... Baking *powder* will only make your ===flower biscuits rise.... (Pun intended.) === ===(And, it's always been my belief that these are only quick fixes; they ===do nothing to solve the problem of what's actually raising or lowering ===the pH. Of course, I'm not above using the quick fix from time to time...) === ===--Bryan === === ===On 8/26/2004 9:06 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it ===typed:BR === ===Snip === You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high === alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non === of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why ===snip Well thats what I thought also, but its listed as baking powder in quite a few articles numerous times on a supposedly reliable website, so I assumed thats what they meant. I have always read and heard baking soda, sodium bicarbonate, as thats what I use in out hot tub, but I swear the website lists it as baking powder..... PS In case yu want to double check it its the Pond Professor website.......and all of the artilces dealing with ph issues list it as bp........ I'm with you though, I would use sodium bicabonate (baking soda) PH adjusts usually is not necessary if its buffered and no items are placed in thre water to raise it or lower it, and at most its just a temp fix until you make figure out why the ph is swinging high or low.... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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please top post or trim the messages. Ingrid
(Roy) wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:46:48 GMT, BryanB wrote: ===Er... You mean Baking *Soda*... Baking *powder* will only make your ===flower biscuits rise.... (Pun intended.) === ===(And, it's always been my belief that these are only quick fixes; they ===do nothing to solve the problem of what's actually raising or lowering ===the pH. Of course, I'm not above using the quick fix from time to time...) === ===--Bryan === === ===On 8/26/2004 9:06 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it ===typed:BR === ===Snip === You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high === alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non === of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why ===snip Well thats what I thought also, but its listed as baking powder in quite a few articles numerous times on a supposedly reliable website, so I assumed thats what they meant. I have always read and heard baking soda, sodium bicarbonate, as thats what I use in out hot tub, but I swear the website lists it as baking powder..... PS In case yu want to double check it its the Pond Professor website.......and all of the artilces dealing with ph issues list it as bp........ I'm with you though, I would use sodium bicabonate (baking soda) PH adjusts usually is not necessary if its buffered and no items are placed in thre water to raise it or lower it, and at most its just a temp fix until you make figure out why the ph is swinging high or low.... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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please top post or trim the messages. Ingrid
(Roy) wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:46:48 GMT, BryanB wrote: ===Er... You mean Baking *Soda*... Baking *powder* will only make your ===flower biscuits rise.... (Pun intended.) === ===(And, it's always been my belief that these are only quick fixes; they ===do nothing to solve the problem of what's actually raising or lowering ===the pH. Of course, I'm not above using the quick fix from time to time...) === ===--Bryan === === ===On 8/26/2004 9:06 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it ===typed:BR === ===Snip === You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high === alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non === of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why ===snip Well thats what I thought also, but its listed as baking powder in quite a few articles numerous times on a supposedly reliable website, so I assumed thats what they meant. I have always read and heard baking soda, sodium bicarbonate, as thats what I use in out hot tub, but I swear the website lists it as baking powder..... PS In case yu want to double check it its the Pond Professor website.......and all of the artilces dealing with ph issues list it as bp........ I'm with you though, I would use sodium bicabonate (baking soda) PH adjusts usually is not necessary if its buffered and no items are placed in thre water to raise it or lower it, and at most its just a temp fix until you make figure out why the ph is swinging high or low.... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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both lemon juice and white vinegar are organic acids which are quickly broken down by
bacteria. not a solution. Ingrid BryanB wrote: Er... You mean Baking *Soda*... Baking *powder* will only make your flower biscuits rise.... (Pun intended.) (And, it's always been my belief that these are only quick fixes; they do nothing to solve the problem of what's actually raising or lowering the pH. Of course, I'm not above using the quick fix from time to time...) --Bryan On 8/26/2004 9:06 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it typed:BR Snip You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why snip ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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both lemon juice and white vinegar are organic acids which are quickly broken down by
bacteria. not a solution. Ingrid BryanB wrote: Er... You mean Baking *Soda*... Baking *powder* will only make your flower biscuits rise.... (Pun intended.) (And, it's always been my belief that these are only quick fixes; they do nothing to solve the problem of what's actually raising or lowering the pH. Of course, I'm not above using the quick fix from time to time...) --Bryan On 8/26/2004 9:06 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it typed:BR Snip You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why snip ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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"Roy" wrote in message
... snip You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why my ph is so high.......... Hi, Vinegar and citric acids are organic, this means that in addition to lowering pH and KH they add organic compounds that must be dealt with biofiltration. Muriatic acid is inorganic and cheap but requires more care, RTFL. Never add water to acid, only add acid to water. Two and a half ounces per 1000 gals is the maximum to use at one time. Dosing at mid day is recommended. Check the next day and dose again if needed. Check pH at dawn and again in mid afternoon, if the results vary by half a unit you probably need to adjust the KH. HTH -_- how no NEWS is good |
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Er... You mean Baking *Soda*... Baking *powder* will only make your
flower biscuits rise.... (Pun intended.) (And, it's always been my belief that these are only quick fixes; they do nothing to solve the problem of what's actually raising or lowering the pH. Of course, I'm not above using the quick fix from time to time...) --Bryan On 8/26/2004 9:06 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it typed:BR Snip You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why snip -- ************************************************** ********** * Can't see the Forest | Bryan B. * * Through the Trees? | "Ho, Ho, Ho!" Santa * * Take it out! | accused as he went * * (Damn Viruses!) | through his list. * ************************************************** ********** |
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"Roy" wrote in message
... snip You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why my ph is so high.......... Hi, Vinegar and citric acids are organic, this means that in addition to lowering pH and KH they add organic compounds that must be dealt with biofiltration. Muriatic acid is inorganic and cheap but requires more care, RTFL. Never add water to acid, only add acid to water. Two and a half ounces per 1000 gals is the maximum to use at one time. Dosing at mid day is recommended. Check the next day and dose again if needed. Check pH at dawn and again in mid afternoon, if the results vary by half a unit you probably need to adjust the KH. HTH -_- how no NEWS is good |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:55:23 GMT, wrote:
===makes for tea colored water. gets some muriatic acid. dilute (always acid into ===water) and drip it slowly into stream of returning water until desired pH is reached. === ===actually... first, what is your pH? ===Ingrid === ==="SkyCatcher" wrote: === ===Hi, === ===I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually ===do this & what type of peat do you use? === ===I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is ===very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? === ===Any help gladly received! === ===Sky === === === === ===~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~ ===List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List ===http://puregold.aquaria.net/ ===www.drsolo.com ===Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ===~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ ===Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other ===compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the ===endorsements or recommendations I make. BEFORE I would fool with ph I would make sure I was checking it at the right time of day. Its going to be lower during sunlight hours and will peak in the evening hours.......10 or 11 am is a good time to check your ph. I checked mine last night and it was higher, but still ok, but just a few minutes ago at approx 11am it was good and lower than it was last night. You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why my ph is so high..........do you have concrete blocks inside the pond, is the pond concrete, all of which will increase ph levels unless it neutalized before using, and even then it can still increase alk levels. IIRC alk levels can go up as ammonia levels increase. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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Hi,
The pH is 8.5 - reading taken at 2pm & 6pm. It used to be OK & the tap water is 7. How much white vinigar would be needed for 10,000litre pond to get to 7? Sky. "SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... Hi, I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually do this & what type of peat do you use? I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? Any help gladly received! Sky |
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SkyCatcher,
I think that 8.5 is perfect for pH. Who in the world told you to lower it to 7? Nedra in Missouri "SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... Hi, The pH is 8.5 - reading taken at 2pm & 6pm. It used to be OK & the tap water is 7. How much white vinigar would be needed for 10,000litre pond to get to 7? Sky. "SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... Hi, I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually do this & what type of peat do you use? I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? Any help gladly received! Sky |
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