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26-08-2004, 03:55 PM
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makes for tea colored water. gets some muriatic acid. dilute (always acid into
water) and drip it slowly into stream of returning water until desired pH is reached. actually... first, what is your pH? Ingrid "SkyCatcher" wrote: Hi, I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually do this & what type of peat do you use? I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? Any help gladly received! Sky ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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26-08-2004, 03:55 PM
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makes for tea colored water. gets some muriatic acid. dilute (always acid into
water) and drip it slowly into stream of returning water until desired pH is reached. actually... first, what is your pH? Ingrid "SkyCatcher" wrote: Hi, I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually do this & what type of peat do you use? I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? Any help gladly received! Sky ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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#4
26-08-2004, 05:06 PM
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:55:23 GMT, wrote:
===makes for tea colored water. gets some muriatic acid. dilute (always acid into ===water) and drip it slowly into stream of returning water until desired pH is reached. === ===actually... first, what is your pH? ===Ingrid === ==="SkyCatcher" wrote: === ===Hi, === ===I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually ===do this & what type of peat do you use? === ===I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is ===very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? === ===Any help gladly received! === ===Sky === === === === ===~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~ ===List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List ===http://puregold.aquaria.net/ ===www.drsolo.com ===Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ===~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ ===Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other ===compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the ===endorsements or recommendations I make. BEFORE I would fool with ph I would make sure I was checking it at the right time of day. Its going to be lower during sunlight hours and will peak in the evening hours.......10 or 11 am is a good time to check your ph. I checked mine last night and it was higher, but still ok, but just a few minutes ago at approx 11am it was good and lower than it was last night. You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why my ph is so high..........do you have concrete blocks inside the pond, is the pond concrete, all of which will increase ph levels unless it neutalized before using, and even then it can still increase alk levels. IIRC alk levels can go up as ammonia levels increase. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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#5
26-08-2004, 06:38 PM
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filter through peat
Hi,
I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually do this & what type of peat do you use? I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? Any help gladly received! Sky |
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26-08-2004, 08:46 PM
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Er... You mean Baking *Soda*... Baking *powder* will only make your
flower biscuits rise.... (Pun intended.) (And, it's always been my belief that these are only quick fixes; they do nothing to solve the problem of what's actually raising or lowering the pH. Of course, I'm not above using the quick fix from time to time...) --Bryan On 8/26/2004 9:06 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it typed:BR Snip You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why snip -- ************************************************** ********** * Can't see the Forest | Bryan B. * * Through the Trees? | "Ho, Ho, Ho!" Santa * * Take it out! | accused as he went * * (Damn Viruses!) | through his list. * ************************************************** ********** |
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26-08-2004, 08:46 PM
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Er... You mean Baking *Soda*... Baking *powder* will only make your
flower biscuits rise.... (Pun intended.) (And, it's always been my belief that these are only quick fixes; they do nothing to solve the problem of what's actually raising or lowering the pH. Of course, I'm not above using the quick fix from time to time...) --Bryan On 8/26/2004 9:06 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it typed:BR Snip You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why snip -- ************************************************** ********** * Can't see the Forest | Bryan B. * * Through the Trees? | "Ho, Ho, Ho!" Santa * * Take it out! | accused as he went * * (Damn Viruses!) | through his list. * ************************************************** ********** |
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#8
26-08-2004, 08:50 PM
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Hi,
The pH is 8.5 - reading taken at 2pm & 6pm. It used to be OK & the tap water is 7. How much white vinigar would be needed for 10,000litre pond to get to 7? Sky. "SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... Hi, I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually do this & what type of peat do you use? I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? Any help gladly received! Sky |
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#9
26-08-2004, 10:46 PM
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SkyCatcher,
I think that 8.5 is perfect for pH. Who in the world told you to lower it to 7? Nedra in Missouri "SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... Hi, The pH is 8.5 - reading taken at 2pm & 6pm. It used to be OK & the tap water is 7. How much white vinigar would be needed for 10,000litre pond to get to 7? Sky. "SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... Hi, I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually do this & what type of peat do you use? I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? Any help gladly received! Sky |
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#10
26-08-2004, 10:46 PM
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SkyCatcher,
I think that 8.5 is perfect for pH. Who in the world told you to lower it to 7? Nedra in Missouri "SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... Hi, The pH is 8.5 - reading taken at 2pm & 6pm. It used to be OK & the tap water is 7. How much white vinigar would be needed for 10,000litre pond to get to 7? Sky. "SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... Hi, I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you actually do this & what type of peat do you use? I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this is very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? Any help gladly received! Sky |
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#11
26-08-2004, 10:49 PM
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:46:48 GMT, BryanB
wrote: ===Er... You mean Baking *Soda*... Baking *powder* will only make your ===flower biscuits rise.... (Pun intended.) === ===(And, it's always been my belief that these are only quick fixes; they ===do nothing to solve the problem of what's actually raising or lowering ===the pH. Of course, I'm not above using the quick fix from time to time...) === ===--Bryan === === ===On 8/26/2004 9:06 AM Roy let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it ===typed:BR === ===Snip === You can use lemon juice or white vinegar to adjust ph down from high === alk side and use baking powder to rasie it from acid to base side. Non === of these are harmfull or will cause any problems, but I would see why ===snip Well thats what I thought also, but its listed as baking powder in quite a few articles numerous times on a supposedly reliable website, so I assumed thats what they meant. I have always read and heard baking soda, sodium bicarbonate, as thats what I use in out hot tub, but I swear the website lists it as baking powder..... PS In case yu want to double check it its the Pond Professor website.......and all of the artilces dealing with ph issues list it as bp........ I'm with you though, I would use sodium bicabonate (baking soda) PH adjusts usually is not necessary if its buffered and no items are placed in thre water to raise it or lower it, and at most its just a temp fix until you make figure out why the ph is swinging high or low.... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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#12
26-08-2004, 10:54 PM
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:50:08 +0100, "SkyCatcher"
wrote: ===Hi, === ===The pH is 8.5 - reading taken at 2pm & 6pm. It used to be OK & the tap water ===is 7. === ===How much white vinigar would be needed for 10,000litre pond to get to 7? === ===Sky. === ==="SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... === Hi, === === I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you ===actually === do this & what type of peat do you use? === === I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this ===is === very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? === === Any help gladly received! === === Sky === === === Fish and most plants are quite happy in 7.0 to 8.0...When it gets above 8.0.... I would look for ammonia buildup or nitrogen out of whack.......I would also take my reading for ph earlier like about 10 am, as in some parts of the country the sun is low and most plants this time of year in the northern section or in shade may start to reverse their cycle, so the ph is going to be higher later on in the day or very early in the am. I can't say how much vinegar it would take, but if you do go and play with your ph add a small amount at a time, and wait for changes to take effect, which cold be a few hours or longer. Nothing worse than adding too much and getting it low and then have to play the chemical balancing game which you usually wind up loosing anyhow and the fish get stressed more with the ups and downs.......so add very little and then check...... Just my 2 cents worth. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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26-08-2004, 10:54 PM
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:50:08 +0100, "SkyCatcher"
wrote: ===Hi, === ===The pH is 8.5 - reading taken at 2pm & 6pm. It used to be OK & the tap water ===is 7. === ===How much white vinigar would be needed for 10,000litre pond to get to 7? === ===Sky. === ==="SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... === Hi, === === I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you ===actually === do this & what type of peat do you use? === === I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this ===is === very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? === === Any help gladly received! === === Sky === === === Fish and most plants are quite happy in 7.0 to 8.0...When it gets above 8.0.... I would look for ammonia buildup or nitrogen out of whack.......I would also take my reading for ph earlier like about 10 am, as in some parts of the country the sun is low and most plants this time of year in the northern section or in shade may start to reverse their cycle, so the ph is going to be higher later on in the day or very early in the am. I can't say how much vinegar it would take, but if you do go and play with your ph add a small amount at a time, and wait for changes to take effect, which cold be a few hours or longer. Nothing worse than adding too much and getting it low and then have to play the chemical balancing game which you usually wind up loosing anyhow and the fish get stressed more with the ups and downs.......so add very little and then check...... Just my 2 cents worth. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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26-08-2004, 11:53 PM
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Before you (Sky) start messing with the pH, please check to see what the KH
reading is. If your KH reading is low... i.e. under 100 I would go ahead and add baking soda at 1 cup per 1,000 gallons. Your pH will balance out at 8.4 so that is an added benefit. You can get the KH testing kit for about $8.00. Nedra "Roy" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:50:08 +0100, "SkyCatcher" wrote: ===Hi, === ===The pH is 8.5 - reading taken at 2pm & 6pm. It used to be OK & the tap water ===is 7. === ===How much white vinigar would be needed for 10,000litre pond to get to 7? === ===Sky. === ==="SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... === Hi, === === I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you ===actually === do this & what type of peat do you use? === === I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this ===is === very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? === === Any help gladly received! === === Sky === === === Fish and most plants are quite happy in 7.0 to 8.0...When it gets above 8.0.... I would look for ammonia buildup or nitrogen out of whack.......I would also take my reading for ph earlier like about 10 am, as in some parts of the country the sun is low and most plants this time of year in the northern section or in shade may start to reverse their cycle, so the ph is going to be higher later on in the day or very early in the am. I can't say how much vinegar it would take, but if you do go and play with your ph add a small amount at a time, and wait for changes to take effect, which cold be a few hours or longer. Nothing worse than adding too much and getting it low and then have to play the chemical balancing game which you usually wind up loosing anyhow and the fish get stressed more with the ups and downs.......so add very little and then check...... Just my 2 cents worth. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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26-08-2004, 11:53 PM
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Before you (Sky) start messing with the pH, please check to see what the KH
reading is. If your KH reading is low... i.e. under 100 I would go ahead and add baking soda at 1 cup per 1,000 gallons. Your pH will balance out at 8.4 so that is an added benefit. You can get the KH testing kit for about $8.00. Nedra "Roy" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:50:08 +0100, "SkyCatcher" wrote: ===Hi, === ===The pH is 8.5 - reading taken at 2pm & 6pm. It used to be OK & the tap water ===is 7. === ===How much white vinigar would be needed for 10,000litre pond to get to 7? === ===Sky. === ==="SkyCatcher" wrote in message ... === Hi, === === I've read that you can filter through peat to reduce pH. How do you ===actually === do this & what type of peat do you use? === === I can only think of the big bags you get at B&Q for your garden & as this ===is === very fine how would you stop it just being washed into the pond? === === Any help gladly received! === === Sky === === === Fish and most plants are quite happy in 7.0 to 8.0...When it gets above 8.0.... I would look for ammonia buildup or nitrogen out of whack.......I would also take my reading for ph earlier like about 10 am, as in some parts of the country the sun is low and most plants this time of year in the northern section or in shade may start to reverse their cycle, so the ph is going to be higher later on in the day or very early in the am. I can't say how much vinegar it would take, but if you do go and play with your ph add a small amount at a time, and wait for changes to take effect, which cold be a few hours or longer. Nothing worse than adding too much and getting it low and then have to play the chemical balancing game which you usually wind up loosing anyhow and the fish get stressed more with the ups and downs.......so add very little and then check...... Just my 2 cents worth. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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