"WilsonKKW" wrote in message
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I had to add water to pond. I am concerned about the cholrine in the
water..will it hurt tje Koi??
--Kathy

Why not put a direct water supply to your pond, but have a 'ball cock' to
ensure a supply on demand characteristic. Since water loss via evaporation
is comparatively slow, any water that is added via a 'ball cock valve should
not negatively effect the pond water.

What do you guy's think?

Alex

"WilsonKKW" wrote in message
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How many gallons does your pond hold?
ond holds 5000 gallons
Maybe not. How much are you adding?
adding about 250 gallons

250 gallons out of 5000 is about 0.5% of the pond's volume. According to
the EPA, drinking water has a residual chlorine level of 0.2 - 6 mg / L. For
the sake of argument, let's assume you live in area that has a higher
chlorine level.
See: http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/chemfact/s_chlori.txt

250 gallons of water gives you 5678 mg of chlorine. Diluted into 5000
gallons of water, that works out to 0.3 mg/L, which is pretty low. If the
water is being circulated by a pump over a waterfall or some other water
feature, the chlorine will dissipate in an hour or less, plenty of bacteria
in the pond water for the chlorine to react with.

If your tap water has 0.2 mg /L chlorine, then your pond will end up with
0.01 mg/L, which is really nothing.

If it helps you sleep at night, toss in a bit of dechlor as well, otherwise
I wouldn't bother. On the otherhand if you filled up half the pond, then I'd
say toss some dechlor in as well.

Snooze

"WilsonKKW" wrote in message
...

How many gallons does your pond hold?
ond holds 5000 gallons
Maybe not. How much are you adding?
adding about 250 gallons

250 gallons out of 5000 is about 0.5% of the pond's volume. According to
the EPA, drinking water has a residual chlorine level of 0.2 - 6 mg / L. For
the sake of argument, let's assume you live in area that has a higher
chlorine level.
See: http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/chemfact/s_chlori.txt

250 gallons of water gives you 5678 mg of chlorine. Diluted into 5000
gallons of water, that works out to 0.3 mg/L, which is pretty low. If the
water is being circulated by a pump over a waterfall or some other water
feature, the chlorine will dissipate in an hour or less, plenty of bacteria
in the pond water for the chlorine to react with.

If your tap water has 0.2 mg /L chlorine, then your pond will end up with
0.01 mg/L, which is really nothing.

If it helps you sleep at night, toss in a bit of dechlor as well, otherwise
I wouldn't bother. On the otherhand if you filled up half the pond, then I'd
say toss some dechlor in as well.

Snooze

until something starts draining the pond really fast and the water starts flowing
into the pond big time and you come home to all your fish dead from
chlorine/chloramine poisoning or cold shock.
I mean, how long does it take to turn on the hose and top up the pond, toss some dry
dechlor in?
If you absolutely wont sit there, use a melnor water timer that adds X gallons that
is dialed in and then shuts off. at 11 bucks or so, cheap insurance.
Ingrid

"Alex Woodward" wrote:


"WilsonKKW" wrote in message
...
I had to add water to pond. I am concerned about the cholrine in the
water..will it hurt tje Koi??
--Kathy

Why not put a direct water supply to your pond, but have a 'ball cock' to
ensure a supply on demand characteristic. Since water loss via evaporation
is comparatively slow, any water that is added via a 'ball cock valve should
not negatively effect the pond water.

What do you guy's think?

Alex




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"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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Gale Pearce wrote:

I have never used dechlor in 10 yrs,
just sprayed any water I added to aerate it and had no problems with

spraying also helps with temperature - your added water may not be pond
temperature, but at least closer to air temperature than your typical
water
supply. It's not particularly good to add a solid stream of water that
might be 20F cooler than the pond.

chlorine - Actually I was just reading that dechlor does not remove
chloramine from water anyway - it just "breaks" the bond between
chlorine
and ammonia (chloramine) so the chlorine will dissipate and your
biofilter

That was definitely true of the old dechlorination products - I don't know
if it's still true. In any case, people tend not to think that chloramine
contains _two_ things that are bad for your fish - chlorine and ammonia

takes care of the ammonia - I don't have the wepage bookmarked anymore,
but someone here sent me the link and it's under "Tip 18"

http://www.pondrushes.net/tips.htm

believe it or not, I just googled: "tip 18" chloramine
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derek

"WilsonKKW" wrote in message
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How many gallons does your pond hold?

ond holds 5000 gallons

Mine holds 1,500 gallons, and I typically don't add dechlor to the water when
topping it off (I usually don't add more than about 100 gallons). With that
much water in your pond, if you spray the water in, agitating it vigorously when
you add it, you should be ok. But, if in doubt, just add a little dechlor (I
use stress coat).

"WilsonKKW" wrote in message
...

How many gallons does your pond hold?

ond holds 5000 gallons

Mine holds 1,500 gallons, and I typically don't add dechlor to the water when
topping it off (I usually don't add more than about 100 gallons). With that
much water in your pond, if you spray the water in, agitating it vigorously when
you add it, you should be ok. But, if in doubt, just add a little dechlor (I
use stress coat).

Whoops. You mean that 250 gallons is 5% of 5000 gallons. Don't know
how much that pesky little decimal point messes with the other numbers
in the rest of your post, though...

--Bryan


On 9/16/2004 3:37 PM Snooze let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it
typed:BR

250 gallons out of 5000 is about 0.5% of the pond's volume. According to
the EPA, drinking water has a residual chlorine level of 0.2 - 6 mg / L. For
the sake of argument, let's assume you live in area that has a higher
chlorine level.
See: http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/chemfact/s_chlori.txt


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Whoops. You mean that 250 gallons is 5% of 5000 gallons. Don't know
how much that pesky little decimal point messes with the other numbers
in the rest of your post, though...

--Bryan


On 9/16/2004 3:37 PM Snooze let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it
typed:BR

250 gallons out of 5000 is about 0.5% of the pond's volume. According to
the EPA, drinking water has a residual chlorine level of 0.2 - 6 mg / L. For
the sake of argument, let's assume you live in area that has a higher
chlorine level.
See: http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/chemfact/s_chlori.txt


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"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
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Hi BV - I don't use the Activated Charcoal type - I use the Diaphram type
and the type of filter for the incoming waterline to your home - it says
it
is good for 3 - 6 months for home usage , so I am sure @ ~ a couple
thousand
gals/yr it will last the whole season if used strictly for the pond before
I
need to change it - I have never used dechlor in 10 yrs, just sprayed any
water I added to aerate it and had no problems with chlorine - Actually I
was just reading that dechlor does not remove chloramine from water
anyway -
it just "breaks" the bond between chlorine and ammonia (chloramine) so the
chlorine will dissipate and your biofilter takes care of the ammonia - I
don't have the wepage bookmarked anymore, but someone here sent me the
link
and it's under "Tip 18"
snip

Yep that is true. Dechlor binds the ammonia, that is true. Here is a link
(that I'll be archiving on iheartmypond.com) that explains it a bit,
http://www.enkoi.com/water_treatments/amquel_info.html.

The point I was trying to make is that my preference is to be actively
involved in the dechlor-ing. I fear an automated system could go unchecked
and cause a disaster. Secondaly, spraying the water can be effective for
chlorine, but not chloramines.

BV.

"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
...
Hi BV - I don't use the Activated Charcoal type - I use the Diaphram type
and the type of filter for the incoming waterline to your home - it says
it
is good for 3 - 6 months for home usage , so I am sure @ ~ a couple
thousand
gals/yr it will last the whole season if used strictly for the pond before
I
need to change it - I have never used dechlor in 10 yrs, just sprayed any
water I added to aerate it and had no problems with chlorine - Actually I
was just reading that dechlor does not remove chloramine from water
anyway -
it just "breaks" the bond between chlorine and ammonia (chloramine) so the
chlorine will dissipate and your biofilter takes care of the ammonia - I
don't have the wepage bookmarked anymore, but someone here sent me the
link
and it's under "Tip 18"
snip

Yep that is true. Dechlor binds the ammonia, that is true. Here is a link
(that I'll be archiving on iheartmypond.com) that explains it a bit,
http://www.enkoi.com/water_treatments/amquel_info.html.

The point I was trying to make is that my preference is to be actively
involved in the dechlor-ing. I fear an automated system could go unchecked
and cause a disaster. Secondaly, spraying the water can be effective for
chlorine, but not chloramines.

BV.

"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
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Thanks, Derek - it is now bookmarked - now I'm twice as glad you're back
snip

Archived at ihearmypond.com, as well.

BV.

"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Derek - it is now bookmarked - now I'm twice as glad you're back
snip

Archived at ihearmypond.com, as well.

BV.

wrote:

until something starts draining the pond really fast and the water starts
flowing into the pond big time and you come home to all your fish dead
from chlorine/chloramine poisoning or cold shock.

It's a possibility, but it's still nicer to have the water supply right at
the pond. I never used an automatic fill, but I had a faucet right there.
--
derek

wrote:

until something starts draining the pond really fast and the water starts
flowing into the pond big time and you come home to all your fish dead
from chlorine/chloramine poisoning or cold shock.

It's a possibility, but it's still nicer to have the water supply right at
the pond. I never used an automatic fill, but I had a faucet right there.
--
derek