I live in the UK. Last year I had a visit from a heron and he cleaned out
all my goldfish.
so since then I have rebuilt my pond and made it bigger so I can switch over
this year to Jap Koi Carp, I have put in a larger better filtration system
and pump, But my only fear is that dammed Heron, so if any one can sagest a
way to stop his visits this year especially after I restock with koi I would
be grateful.
Mostyn

Some suggestions for herons that
have worked for pond keepers are

- motion activated sprinker systems, setting two
in a cross pattern
- electric shock fence barriers
- a series of wires strung above the pond making it hard to land
- netting the pond

What works for you will depend on how your pond is situated and how
your yard is set up.Herons need some landing room as they have a wide
wing span but they can land away from the pond and walk in. They like
to stand and watch for their prey to swim by but they can float around
like a duck if needed.

For my pond having two labradors on guard duty took care of my heron
visitor. But it also helped that I was home and able to eject the dogs
from the sofa and out the door to do their duty ;-)

kathy

"Mostyn" wrote in message
...
I live in the UK. Last year I had a visit from a heron and he cleaned out
all my goldfish.
so since then I have rebuilt my pond and made it bigger so I can switch
over
this year to Jap Koi Carp, I have put in a larger better filtration system
and pump, But my only fear is that dammed Heron, so if any one can sagest
a
way to stop his visits this year especially after I restock with koi I
would
be grateful.
=======================
I've had YEARS of experience with herons. We see them here about year
'round. The only thing that we found (other ponders I know in my area) that
worked was to NET the ponds with a fine bird netting. Once herons get a few
meals at your pond they will come back continuously. Some people may
suggest those motion spray things - but the herons will learn to come up
BEHIND them and so avoid being sprayed and startled. The nets also keep
out the other fish predators such as bullfrogs, snakes, King Fishers and
snapper/mud turtles. Just my 2¢ worth. :-)
--
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"People who want to share their religious views with you almost
never want you to share yours with them."
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And from all the perverted news groups forums you patronize it appears
you have some experieince in more than Herons.........

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:07:34 -0600, "~ Windsong ~" P@P wrote:

===
==="Mostyn" wrote in message
...
=== I live in the UK. Last year I had a visit from a heron and he cleaned out
=== all my goldfish.
=== so since then I have rebuilt my pond and made it bigger so I can switch
===over
=== this year to Jap Koi Carp, I have put in a larger better filtration system
=== and pump, But my only fear is that dammed Heron, so if any one can sagest
===a
=== way to stop his visits this year especially after I restock with koi I
===would
=== be grateful.
==========================
===I've had YEARS of experience with herons. We see them here about year
==='round. The only thing that we found (other ponders I know in my area) that
===worked was to NET the ponds with a fine bird netting. Once herons get a few
===meals at your pond they will come back continuously. Some people may
===suggest those motion spray things - but the herons will learn to come up
===BEHIND them and so avoid being sprayed and startled. The nets also keep
===out the other fish predators such as bullfrogs, snakes, King Fishers and
===snapper/mud turtles. Just my 2¢ worth. :-)


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diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your fish at Dandy Orandas
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"Roy" wrote in message
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And from all the perverted news groups forums you patronize it appears
you have some experieince in more than Herons.........
==================================
It appears you never learned to read HEADERS and use www.arin.com . Now
then, tell us what YOU were doing on all the sex and porn NGs Jabriol
(Antonio L. Santana-Candia) frequents? :-)
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I only found them after doing a simple google search on your name,
seems your quite popular in those arenas. No denying it headers all
match, only the user name changes, right down to the style and DNS
given in headers. Your the one in need of a clue windbag..........

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:51:48 -0600, "~ Windsong ~" P@P wrote:

===
==="Roy" wrote in message
...
=== And from all the perverted news groups forums you patronize it appears
=== you have some experieince in more than Herons.........
=====================================
===It appears you never learned to read HEADERS and use www.arin.com . Now
===then, tell us what YOU were doing on all the sex and porn NGs Jabriol
===(Antonio L. Santana-Candia) frequents? :-)

"HendleyWM" wrote in message
...
I only found them after doing a simple google search on your name,
seems your quite popular in those arenas.

** No do a search on learning how to read headers and know which posts are
real and which are forgeries.

No denying it headers all
match,

** And not one can be traced to my ISP. :-)

only the user name changes, right down to the style and DNS
given in headers. Your the one in need of a clue windbag..........

** Nice try but no cigar. Learn how to read HEADERS, none of them
originated from my ISP. You didn't even notice he's using an old "dead"
e-mail account from years ago. You know why dummy? Because Jabriol doesn't
KNOW my new account names. :-)
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"Roy" wrote in message
...
And from all the perverted news groups forums you patronize it appears
you have some experieince in more than Herons.........
==================================
It appears you never learned to read HEADERS and use www.arin.com . Now
then, tell us what YOU were doing on all the sex and porn NGs Jabriol
(Antonio L. Santana-Candia) frequents? :-)
--
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"Where the hell is Easy Street?"
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:43:37 GMT, "Mostyn"
wrote:

I live in the UK. Last year I had a visit from a heron and he cleaned out
all my goldfish.
so since then I have rebuilt my pond and made it bigger so I can switch over
this year to Jap Koi Carp, I have put in a larger better filtration system
and pump, But my only fear is that dammed Heron, so if any one can sagest a
way to stop his visits this year especially after I restock with koi I would
be grateful.
Mostyn

The short version, clutter up the landing area. A heron can have a
6' wing span and can land and walk over to the pond, but won't land in
an area where something will touch it's wings. Some have used
overhead wires. I (With my wife's help.) turned my yard into a
junkyard of ornamental windmill, flags, wind chimes and flower pot
holders with a few plants like 6' dwarf maples and Miss Huff lantana.

This is my most vulnerable time of the year, because I just cut the
lantana brush left from last year's growth, but I suspect the taller
structures like the gazebo and my neighbors 10' fence (basketball
half-court) adjacent to the lantana bed discourage the heron from
landing in that corner of our small yard.

Regards,

Hal

"Hal" wrote in message
...
snip
The short version, clutter up the landing area. A heron can have a
6' wing span and can land and walk over to the pond, but won't land in
an area where something will touch it's wings. Some have used
overhead wires. I (With my wife's help.) turned my yard into a
junkyard of ornamental windmill, flags, wind chimes and flower pot
holders with a few plants like 6' dwarf maples and Miss Huff lantana.

This is my most vulnerable time of the year, because I just cut the
lantana brush left from last year's growth, but I suspect the taller
structures like the gazebo and my neighbors 10' fence (basketball
half-court) adjacent to the lantana bed discourage the heron from
landing in that corner of our small yard.

My Heron landed only on our swingset. We have not yet seen him on the
ground. I am ready and waiting to attack him with my sonic repulsion
weapons, if neccessary.


--
BV
Webporgmaster of iheartmypond.com
http://www.iheartmypond.com/animals/birds/heron
I'll be leaning on the bus stop post.

I spotted our heron first by the pond.
Second time he was on top of the shed.
Third time he was perched on the fence.

Every time we scared him off, the labradors
and me.

kathy

"kathy" wrote in message
ups.com...
I spotted our heron first by the pond.
Second time he was on top of the shed.
Third time he was perched on the fence.

Every time we scared him off, the labradors
and me.
==========================
I must ask this... do you sit at the window from sun up to sun down guarding
your pond from herons? When happens if you have to go take a shower or run
to the grocery store? Who watches your pond until you get back?
--
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Carol, tediously, wrote I must ask this... do you sit at the window
from sun up to sun down guarding
your pond from herons? When happens if you have to go take a shower
or run
to the grocery store? Who watches your pond until you get back?

Yes, Carol. I do nothing all day but sit by the window and watch the
pond. The dogs are kept by my side at all times. I employ a shopper to
do all my grocery shopping. I haven't taken a bath or shower in, oh,
five years. I haven't taken a vacation, I haven't seen my kids sports
events. Why I even skipped the twins' graduation. And in all that time,
Carol, the heron NEVER came back.
And I will never, ever net my pond, just to tick you off. Hordes of
snakes, dozens of bullfrogs, platoons of herons and kingfishers could
arrive at my pond and CLEAN it out and I will never net my pond. Never,
ever, ever.

kathy

Carol,

I know you are bitter -- from things that HAVE NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO
WITH THIS NEWSGROUP.

But, seriously, give it a rest. If not for yourself, for the rest of us
here.

You need to talk to someone -- but you do NOT deserve to take out your
frustrations on the rest of us.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC




"~ Windsong ~" P@P wrote in message
...

"kathy" wrote in message
ups.com...
I spotted our heron first by the pond.
Second time he was on top of the shed.
Third time he was perched on the fence.

Every time we scared him off, the labradors
and me.
==========================
I must ask this... do you sit at the window from sun up to sun down
guarding
your pond from herons? When happens if you have to go take a shower or
run
to the grocery store? Who watches your pond until you get back?
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"~ Windsong ~" P@P wrote in message
...

"kathy" wrote in message
ups.com...
I spotted our heron first by the pond.
Second time he was on top of the shed.
Third time he was perched on the fence.

Every time we scared him off, the labradors
and me.
==========================
I must ask this... do you sit at the window from sun up to sun down
guarding
your pond from herons? When happens if you have to go take a shower or
run
to the grocery store? Who watches your pond until you get back?

I certainly don't. Thank god the MD Herons have the same schedule as I do.


--
BV
Webporgmaster of iheartmypond.com
http://www.iheartmypond.com
I'll be leaning on the bus stop post.