Silly me. I think what I scooped up was actually Koi semen. 30
minutes after I put it in the container, it was dissolved. It looked
like foam when I first scooped i tup.

Mike C wrote:

Silly me. I think what I scooped up was actually Koi semen. 30
minutes after I put it in the container, it was dissolved. It looked
like foam when I first scooped i tup.

Exactly right! Spawning is one of the primary causes of foam in a garden
pond. It _is_ a good idea to scoop out the foam.
--
derek

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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Mike C wrote:

Silly me. I think what I scooped up was actually Koi semen. 30
minutes after I put it in the container, it was dissolved. It looked
like foam when I first scooped i tup.

Exactly right! Spawning is one of the primary causes of foam in a garden
pond. It _is_ a good idea to scoop out the foam.
--
derek
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Because my ponds are netted that would be a real pain in the keester. It
disappears in 24 hours on it's own. The first time they spawned several
years ago I checked for an ammonia spike - there was none.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Reel McKoi wrote:


"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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Mike C wrote:

Silly me. I think what I scooped up was actually Koi semen. 30
minutes after I put it in the container, it was dissolved. It looked
like foam when I first scooped i tup.

Exactly right! Spawning is one of the primary causes of foam in a garden
pond. It _is_ a good idea to scoop out the foam.

Because my ponds are netted that would be a real pain in the keester. It
disappears in 24 hours on it's own. The first time they spawned several
years ago I checked for an ammonia spike - there was none.

It's not a hard rule - and the bigger your pond the less likely it is to
cause trouble. If ammonia never appeared, it's not a problem at all. But
foam of any kind indicates a high organic load in the pond, and scooping it
as it develops is the simplest form of control. If it was a real problem,
then you'd want to consider a protein skimmer - which wouldn't be a problem
with a netted pond.
--
derek

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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Reel McKoi wrote:


"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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Mike C wrote:

Silly me. I think what I scooped up was actually Koi semen. 30
minutes after I put it in the container, it was dissolved. It looked
like foam when I first scooped i tup.

Exactly right! Spawning is one of the primary causes of foam in a garden
pond. It _is_ a good idea to scoop out the foam.

Because my ponds are netted that would be a real pain in the keester. It
disappears in 24 hours on it's own. The first time they spawned several
years ago I checked for an ammonia spike - there was none.

It's not a hard rule - and the bigger your pond the less likely it is to
cause trouble. If ammonia never appeared, it's not a problem at all. But
foam of any kind indicates a high organic load in the pond, and scooping it
as it develops is the simplest form of control. If it was a real problem,
then you'd want to consider a protein skimmer - which wouldn't be a problem
with a netted pond.
--
derek


Hmmm. I have a reef tank, and everything I've ever read about protein skimmers
(I have two different ones) says that they don't work with fresh water. I
haven't actually attempted to use one this way so I am just going by what I have
read. Something about the surface tension being to low in freshwater. Now, if
the water was really fouled up, it might work for a while.

George wrote:

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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Hmmm. I have a reef tank, and everything I've ever read about protein
skimmers
(I have two different ones) says that they don't work with fresh water. I
haven't actually attempted to use one this way so I am just going by what
I have
read. Something about the surface tension being to low in freshwater.
Now, if the water was really fouled up, it might work for a while.

Everything you will read about protein skimmers says they're not nearly as
effective in fresh water. That doesn't mean they don't work. Think about
it. We've all seen foam at the bottom of water falls - often in cleaner
water than we have in our ponds. Steve Meyer, who wrote about pond fish
for years in AFM magazine swears by them for ponds.
--
derek

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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Reel McKoi wrote:


"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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Mike C wrote:

Silly me. I think what I scooped up was actually Koi semen. 30
minutes after I put it in the container, it was dissolved. It looked
like foam when I first scooped i tup.

Exactly right! Spawning is one of the primary causes of foam in a
garden
pond. It _is_ a good idea to scoop out the foam.

Because my ponds are netted that would be a real pain in the keester.
It
disappears in 24 hours on it's own. The first time they spawned several
years ago I checked for an ammonia spike - there was none.

It's not a hard rule - and the bigger your pond the less likely it is to
cause trouble. If ammonia never appeared, it's not a problem at all. But
foam of any kind indicates a high organic load in the pond, and scooping
it
as it develops is the simplest form of control. If it was a real problem,
then you'd want to consider a protein skimmer - which wouldn't be a
problem
with a netted pond.
--
derek
============
I don't think it would be worth the cost considering they only breed a few
times in the spring.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Exactly right! Spawning is one of the primary causes of foam in a garden
pond. It _is_ a good idea to scoop out the foam.
--
derek[/quote]

Oh thank goodness. I had some white foam in the pond today and I am like- what is wrong? What did I do? I found my first Koi baby today. Amongst the 100 black baby comets he stands out. He is only about 3/4 of an inch long. He is white with a big red polka dot on his back. He must be a Koi right? All my other babies stay black for what seems a long time. I am tempted to net him to look for tiny barbs. lol I will resist the urge.

Koitoy wrote:


Exactly right! Spawning is one of the primary causes of foam in a
garden
pond. It _is_ a good idea to scoop out the foam.

Oh thank goodness. I had some white foam in the pond today and I am
like- what is wrong? What did I do? I found my first Koi baby today.
Amongst the 100 black baby comets he stands out. He is only about 3/4
of an inch long. He is white with a big red polka dot on his back. He
must be a Koi right? All my other babies stay black for what seems a
long time. I am tempted to net him to look for tiny barbs. lol I will
resist the urge.

I don't think you can be certain he's a koi just because of a spot of color.
Goldfish get their color at widely varying ages. But I don't recall seeing
a "big red polka dot" on a 3/4" comet before.
--
derek