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still losing water
Well, ok. I have had lots of trouble keeping water in the pond since my
wife and I cleand the pond. I ran some plumbing through the side of the pond which involved us busting out and patching the concrete that forms the pond. I have gone back and re-sealed the concrete where the pipes were ran with hydraulic cement. This seems to have slowed the drainage somewhat. Even still, I am still losing somewhere between 1/4 - 1/2 inch of water daily. God forbid if I turn on the waterfall for an hour or two, Ill lose about an inch of water. So, cannot circulate the water. Also have a nice algae bloom going on since adding the potash-but that is an entirely different post al together. Should I just line the sucker? If so, after spending the $300 Id probably need to line the pond, how do I know that a liner would help? Maybe we didnt notice before the cleaning, but I am damn certain the pond was not losing water like this before. Im getting frustrated to the point of giving up. |
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"robv60" wrote in message oups.com... Well, ok. I have had lots of trouble keeping water in the pond since my wife and I cleand the pond. I ran some plumbing through the side of the pond which involved us busting out and patching the concrete that forms the pond. I have gone back and re-sealed the concrete where the pipes were ran with hydraulic cement. This seems to have slowed the drainage somewhat. Even still, I am still losing somewhere between 1/4 - 1/2 inch of water daily. God forbid if I turn on the waterfall for an hour or two, Ill lose about an inch of water. So, cannot circulate the water. Also have a nice algae bloom going on since adding the potash-but that is an entirely different post al together. Should I just line the sucker? If so, after spending the $300 Id probably need to line the pond, how do I know that a liner would help? Maybe we didnt notice before the cleaning, but I am damn certain the pond was not losing water like this before. Im getting frustrated to the point of giving up. 1/4 to 1/2 inch of water loss is not unusual, and likely is caused by evaporation. Umless you start losing inches to feet per day, I wouldn't worry too much about it. If it becomes a serious problem, then I would start worrying again. It does sound like you may have an issue with your waterfall. Do you have much splash with it? I would check it again for leaks. |
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"robv60" wrote in message oups.com... Well, ok. I have had lots of trouble keeping water in the pond since my wife and I cleand the pond. I ran some plumbing through the side of the pond which involved us busting out and patching the concrete that forms the pond. I have gone back and re-sealed the concrete where the pipes were ran with hydraulic cement. This seems to have slowed the drainage somewhat. Even still, I am still losing somewhere between 1/4 - 1/2 inch of water daily. God forbid if I turn on the waterfall for an hour or two, Ill lose about an inch of water............ ======================== My 2000 gallon pond can lose up to 2" a day to evaporation. I have to top them all off constantly. -- McKoi.... the frugal ponder... EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries before flushing." :-) ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
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On 9 May 2005 21:14:49 -0700, "robv60" wrote:
Well, ok. I have had lots of trouble keeping water in the pond since my wife and I cleand the pond. I ran some plumbing through the side of the pond which involved us busting out and patching the concrete that forms the pond. I have gone back and re-sealed the concrete where the pipes were ran with hydraulic cement. This seems to have slowed the drainage somewhat. Even still, I am still losing somewhere between 1/4 - 1/2 inch of water daily. Depending on your location, this may not be unreasonable to evaporation. If you lose more when the waterfall is on, I'd suspect something between pond exit to waterfall to re-entry. Or could it be splash? At the demo. pond we lose a lot to splash and even more on windy days when it blows the waterfall to the side. But not in the 1-2 inches per hour you mention. I think you need to check the plumbing out of the pond, not the pond itself. ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: www.jjspond.us ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
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Well I was originally getting alot of splash. I ran 2 inch PVC to the
top of the falls, that at first, was simply spewing out into a 6-8" deep holding pond. The first night we ran the falls we woke up the next morning to a nearly empty pond. Were talking 1540 galloins of water almost gone. I since have fixed the outflow pipe so that it fills the holding pond from under the water surface. Rather than pouring out and splashing/churning, The water now just rises around the pipe and spills over the lip of the holding pond. No splashing. There is one spot where the water tends to trickle out a little when it runs through the stream connecting the holding pond to the "falls" . Its noticable, but not enough to lose an inch of water an hour. Will remedy that soon. I do have a couple semi-large rocks in the stream in order to direct the water flow where I want it. It does splash against these 2 rocks but not much and i have them positioned so no water splashes out over the edge of the pond. Or at least not much. Also, the falls come down a stream that is about a foot wide, and then the water spreads out over a large area. More like water cascading/sheeting over the face of the falls rather than simply dropping from a ledge into the pond. I have a feeling this is causing alot of evaporation. Spreading all that water out so thin over such a large area cant be good. I inherited this pond and it just wasnt built to have a single "thick" water fall. Like I said, its a very thin sheet of water sheeting over the face of the falls. In the stream the water is pretty deep and flows like a river more so than a stream. |
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Oh yeah, also, this may give you more experienced ponders an idea of
whats going on. All day long, all the way around the surface of the water, the concrete walls stay wet about 2" above the water surface. Almost looks as though the water dropped two inches really fast and the concrete hasnt dried yet, make sense? Say for instance you dipped a piece of cardboard into the water and the water "leeched" up into the cardboard that was above the surface of the water. Im assuming this is what the concrete is doing, sucking up water from the surface. |
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"robv60" wrote in message oups.com... Oh yeah, also, this may give you more experienced ponders an idea of whats going on. All day long, all the way around the surface of the water, the concrete walls stay wet about 2" above the water surface. Almost looks as though the water dropped two inches really fast and the concrete hasnt dried yet, make sense? Say for instance you dipped a piece of cardboard into the water and the water "leeched" up into the cardboard that was above the surface of the water. Im assuming this is what the concrete is doing, sucking up water from the surface. If your concrete hasn't been sealed that may be part of your problem. You need to seal the concrete with an aquatic-safe sealant. |
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Would it be cheaper in the long run just to line the pond? What type of
sealer? UGL Drylok? |
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