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"RichToyBox" wrote:
The following site says that roundup can be used to control the poison ivy. http://www.conservation.state.mo.us/...e/flora/poivy/ Roundup does work on poison ivy. I have been using it for many years. You need to use a strong mixture and add a spreader/sticker and may need to reapply. Roundup works best on mature plants that are sending sap to the roots, since it works by killing the roots. On very tall vines of poison ivy, cut the ivy off about chest high and spray the lower part. Poison ivy spreads by the rhizomatous roots and the seeds which birds spread in their guano. The botanist for the National Botanical Gardens in Washington DC said at a meeting several years ago, that Roundup can be used to control weeds in natural ponds without affecting the fish and other animals. It is apparently neutralized on contact with water. It is not neutralized on contact with water since it is an aqueous solution. It is neutralized with water which contains clay particles. It is the clay that neutralizes it. It is best to apply with a brush or a cotton glove over a plastic glove so there is not over-spray that gets into the pond or hits plants you don't want to kill. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to 18,000 gallon (17'x 47'x 2-4') lily pond garden in Zone 6 Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA |
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I do not think Round Up is approved for use in and around any ponds
or waters........The companion product Rodeo is supposedly recomended for use in and around water. Rodeo is used to kill aquatic weeds etc, and it states how to use it "in" and around ponds etc, but then in its cautions it says to keep it from getting into thr water.........go figure. I always use a surfficant with any products I spray as it makes for all the differences in the world in the plants ability to hold thre treatment on its vegetation and not run off. Less wasted product with a surfficant. I take a mop, saturate it, wring it out to the point its not dripping, and just swab whatever I want killed. Been doing it like that for years now in and around my pond without any problems. I even managed to eliminate a lot of water clover and parrots feather and cat tails this way........... I don't think Roundup or Rodeo releases any problematic stuff once its taken in by the plant, so what would have to be neutralized? These two chemicals kill by going to the root system....... ============================================== Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked! ~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~ }(((((o |
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"Stephen Henning" wrote in message news "RichToyBox" wrote: The following site says that roundup can be used to control the poison ivy. http://www.conservation.state.mo.us/...e/flora/poivy/ Roundup does work on poison ivy. I have been using it for many years. You need to use a strong mixture and add a spreader/sticker and may need to reapply. Roundup works best on mature plants that are sending sap to the roots, since it works by killing the roots. On very tall vines of poison ivy, cut the ivy off about chest high and spray the lower part. Poison ivy spreads by the rhizomatous roots and the seeds which birds spread in their guano. ## And that's how we believe it keeps showing up on our property. :-( We used RoundUp at 6 oz. per gallon and had about a 50% killrate for poison ivy in the past. I held cardboard behind it to avoid it going into the ponds and sprayed what's tangled in the net and net's support 3 weeks ago. It turned yellow and kept right on growing. Is it possible plants can develop immunity to weed killers like bacteria develop immunity to antibiotics? The botanist for the National Botanical Gardens in Washington DC said at a meeting several years ago, that Roundup can be used to control weeds in natural ponds without affecting the fish and other animals. It is apparently neutralized on contact with water. It is not neutralized on contact with water since it is an aqueous solution. It is neutralized with water which contains clay particles. It is the clay that neutralizes it. It is best to apply with a brush or a cotton glove over a plastic glove so there is not over-spray that gets into the pond or hits plants you don't want to kill. ## This way sounds much safer around our fish... thanks! :-) Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to 18,000 gallon (17'x 47'x 2-4') lily pond garden in Zone 6 Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA -- McKoi.... the frugal ponder... EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED. Do not feed the trolls. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
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"Koi-minator" invalid@invalid wrote:
Roundup does work on poison ivy. I have been using it for many years. You need to use a strong mixture and add a spreader/sticker and may need to reapply. Roundup works best on mature plants that are sending sap to the roots, since it works by killing the roots. On very tall vines of poison ivy, cut the ivy off about chest high and spray the lower part. Poison ivy spreads by the rhizomatous roots and the seeds which birds spread in their guano. ## And that's how we believe it keeps showing up on our property. :-( We used RoundUp at 6 oz. per gallon and had about a 50% killrate for poison ivy in the past. I use Roundup at a rate of 4 oz per gallon and get 99% kill rate. I am spraying new seedlings that have small roots. If you are spraying a field with established rhizomes, then you will need to keep at it since the rhizomes can extend many feet under ground. Unless you spray every green leaf that comes out of the rhizome (which may extend over acres), you won't effect a kill. If you cut a trench round the kill area about a food deep, it will sever the rhizome around your kill area so you can get a complete kill. If you plow a field of rhizomes, every piece will form a new plant. In large areas, mowing repeatedly may drain the rhizomes enough so that spraying will be more effective or not even necessary. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to Visit my Rhododendron and Azalea web pages at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/rhody.html Also visit the Rhododendron and Azalea Bookstore at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/rhodybooks.html Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA Zone 6 |
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Stephen Henning wrote:
If you are spraying a field with established rhizomes, then you will need to keep at it since the rhizomes can extend many feet under ground. I should have said many feet laterally under ground. They never go very deep. When I plant Christmas trees, I pull out long poison ivy rhizomes. They are usually never more than 3 or 4 inches below the surface. I am allergic to poison ivy so I wear gloves, long sleeves and wrist guards. When I come in I put my clothes in the wash and immediately take a good shower with a strong soap. I seldom get much of any rash. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to 18,000 gallon (17'x 47'x 2-4') lily pond garden in Zone 6 Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA |
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"Stephen Henning" wrote in message news "Koi-minator" invalid@invalid wrote: Roundup does work on poison ivy. I have been using it for many years. You need to use a strong mixture and add a spreader/sticker and may need to reapply. Roundup works best on mature plants that are sending sap to the roots, since it works by killing the roots. On very tall vines of poison ivy, cut the ivy off about chest high and spray the lower part. Poison ivy spreads by the rhizomatous roots and the seeds which birds spread in their guano. ## And that's how we believe it keeps showing up on our property. :-( We used RoundUp at 6 oz. per gallon and had about a 50% killrate for poison ivy in the past. I use Roundup at a rate of 4 oz per gallon and get 99% kill rate. I am spraying new seedlings that have small roots. If you are spraying a field with established rhizomes, then you will need to keep at it since the rhizomes can extend many feet under ground. Unless you spray every green leaf that comes out of the rhizome (which may extend over acres), you won't effect a kill. If you cut a trench round the kill area about a food deep, it will sever the rhizome around your kill area so you can get a complete kill. If you plow a field of rhizomes, every piece will form a new plant. $$ Thanks Stephen. No acres of the ivy. It's just a few large plants that came up around the ponds rock necklace. I sprayed them again today (last of the Round-Up) and made sure to cover all the leaves that I could see. They're still a bit yellow from the last spraying. I'm so deadly allergic to them I find it difficult to get to all the leaves since they are tangled with the net in places, the English ivy, daylillies, hostas and the other plants around the pond's berm. I will get the rash right through a long sleeve shirt and sometimes jeans. :-( In large areas, mowing repeatedly may drain the rhizomes enough so that spraying will be more effective or not even necessary. $$ When we redo the collapsing berm/sides my husband will grub it out by the roots if possible, and we'll spray, spray, spray since the fish will be in a 1,500 gallon holding pool behind the house - far from the spray. I also plan to use that landscape cloth to help hold down unwanted plants including the poison ivy. I should never have taken the advice to make the sides almost straight as now we have a problem with them collapsing or bellying in. -- McKoi.... the frugal ponder... EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED. Do not feed the trolls. ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
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