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Long grizzle - wrong roses!
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:33:13 -0700, Cass
wrote: dave weil wrote: Sombreuil has been an underperformer for me (mainly due to the lack of afternoon sun I think) but that works well for its location, which is fairly limited in size anyway. I like mine okay except for the fact that it ages so ugly. I love the blushy center. But I am not really attracted to roses with 9,000 itsy bitsy petals. It is a lot more shallow-cupped than I had thought it would be. My problem with Sombreuil stems from the fact that it was a spindly little thing when I got it (part of the reason that I don't order from Vintage Gardens any more). It's done surprisingly well in its third season, and, as I've said, it's probably for the best, although I hope to eventually create a wall of rose on the porch. I've got 10 foot canes, but the ends aren't very vigorous. I also have it own root from Vintage and so far, it is a 5 foot shrub. Really disappointing, eh? Have you had better luck with other Vintage Garden roses? You're way ahead if you have 10 foot cane. My budded Sombreuil tends to throw relatively show basals but then continuing laterals that are pretty long. I've heard that you should feed it a lot ("push it" is the expression used). So far, laterals have been pretty anemic. However, I've noticed a second one that's popped up that I just noticed. a vigorous stand of mint. We call this redundant. ;~) Yes, I suppose so. I guess I'm disappointed that it hasn't been nearly as vigorous as CB, which was planted at the same time. CB has been really amazing in terms of coverage. Here's a recent pic: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/CBJune10.jpg If you want a tree climber, how about a rambler mixed in there with a rebloomer? Long John Silver throws 12 to 16 foot canes the first summer. Ahh, myrrh scent, white white blooms with tons of petals, in clusters. Here's a cluster from a distance with a visitor posing: http://home.earthlink.net/~cbernstei...knLongJohn.jpg Here's a bunch stuffed in a vase of other other once bloomers: http://home.earthlink.net/~cbernstei...ges/Oncers.jpg Closeup actually in focus, unlike the others: http://www.rosefog.us/imagesJtoZ/LongJohnSilver2.jpg It's a species hybrid, so it should be hardy for you. I created a new gallery that shows Sombreuil. It's a huge gallery because I used most of my June 2003 Week 2 folder and I was too lazy to prune it (just like my gardening skills. You'll see lots of redundent images and some wildy differing exposures, because none of the shots without dedicated names, i.e. Yard001, etc. have been tweaked in any way. To go to the Sombreuil shots, jump to #192 and keep going. You'll see the growth habits, to include the rather weenie ends, ends that sort of taper off into nothingness. Also, you see in contrast, how vigorous Old Blush and The Fairy climbers are. On 198, you can see the 9 foot cane arching to the sky, and it's only one of about 8 5ft + new canes. The Fairy also has lots of new vigorous canes. If you go through the entire gallery, you can see what the gardens have looked like in the past week. As I said, there are a few redundent shots, so be patient. Of course, to fit the shots on my web site, I had to reduce the size. Also, there may be a few shots that were shot with portrait orientation and need to be rotated, but I don't have time to go through, so you'll likely see a few sideways shots. ....a few minutes later... Well, I *was* going to post this gallery, but unfortunately it's about 260 megs, even having downsized the pics groan Guess I'm going to have to do some pruning. Then again, can I zip it down and still have it display properly? Anyone have any tactics about this sort of thing? |
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