In article , dave weil
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On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:33:13 -0700, Cass
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dave weil wrote:


Sombreuil has been an underperformer for me (mainly due to the lack of
afternoon sun I think) but that works well for its location, which is
fairly limited in size anyway.

I like mine okay except for the fact that it ages so ugly. I love the
blushy center. But I am not really attracted to roses with 9,000 itsy
bitsy petals. It is a lot more shallow-cupped than I had thought it
would be.

My problem with Sombreuil stems from the fact that it was a spindly
little thing when I got it (part of the reason that I don't order from
Vintage Gardens any more). It's done surprisingly well in its third
season, and, as I've said, it's probably for the best, although I hope
to eventually create a wall of rose on the porch. I've got 10 foot
canes, but the ends aren't very vigorous.

I also have it own root from Vintage and so far, it is a 5 foot shrub.

Really disappointing, eh? Have you had better luck with other Vintage
Garden roses?

All kinds of luck, good and bad. I don't think it has anything to do
with coming from Vintage Gardens. Sombreuil aka Colonial White is slow
to grow on it's own roots. Could be my soils, could be lack of sun,
poor water, any number of things. I have roses that are 24 inches here
that grow to 4 x 6 in Gregg Lowry's home garden.

You're way ahead if you have 10 foot cane. My budded Sombreuil tends
to throw relatively show basals but then continuing laterals that are
pretty long. I've heard that you should feed it a lot ("push it" is the
expression used).

So far, laterals have been pretty anemic. However, I've noticed a
second one that's popped up that I just noticed.

a vigorous stand of mint.

We call this redundant. ;~)

Yes, I suppose so.

I guess I'm disappointed that it hasn't been nearly as vigorous as CB,
which was planted at the same time. CB has been really amazing in
terms of coverage. Here's a recent pic:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/CBJune10.jpg

If you want a tree climber, how about a rambler mixed in there with a
rebloomer? Long John Silver throws 12 to 16 foot canes the first
summer. Ahh, myrrh scent, white white blooms with tons of petals, in
clusters.

Here's a cluster from a distance with a visitor posing:

http://home.earthlink.net/~cbernstei...knLongJohn.jpg

Here's a bunch stuffed in a vase of other other once bloomers:

http://home.earthlink.net/~cbernstei...ges/Oncers.jpg

Closeup actually in focus, unlike the others:

http://www.rosefog.us/imagesJtoZ/LongJohnSilver2.jpg

It's a species hybrid, so it should be hardy for you.

I created a new gallery that shows Sombreuil. It's a huge gallery
....
Well, I *was* going to post this gallery, but unfortunately it's about
260 megs, even having downsized the pics groan

Guess I'm going to have to do some pruning.

Then again, can I zip it down and still have it display properly?
Anyone have any tactics about this sort of thing?

Do you have photoshop or Photoshop elements? You can batch process them
using automation tool and chop everything down to 400 x 600 pixels? Or
make a web photo gallery and specify large image size and then upload
the html and folders? Photoshop Elements also makes pdf slide
shows...tho I don't know how to set up pdf for web access. Probably
have to buy Acrobat (horrors).