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Dave - my only experience pruning that way
has been with ramblers - my husband will often take a gas powered hedge trimmer to a well established growth of 4 Red Cascade. However, I also have rabbits who have a tendency to do straight cuts on some of my roses. Most do just fine and grow back without a problem. Given your specific problem rose, what about an experiment? Prune a cane or two with the straight across method, at the same time prune another cane or two using the traditional method. Keep track of how they do. Good luck! Gail |
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Dave - my only experience pruning that way
has been with ramblers - my husband will often take a gas powered hedge trimmer to a well established growth of 4 Red Cascade. However, I also have rabbits who have a tendency to do straight cuts on some of my roses. Most do just fine and grow back without a problem. Given your specific problem rose, what about an experiment? Prune a cane or two with the straight across method, at the same time prune another cane or two using the traditional method. Keep track of how they do. Good luck! Gail |
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Thank you once again for your kind words, your not a related to that grape
grower are you? Just to make a few points double'y clear!!:- * I need to respond when information about our web site is incorrect, obvious really! * Agreed the Bexrose web site is a young site having been started at the beginning of this year (rather that immature, grapes again!). * We are working on developing the site as can be clearly seen from my postings here that are frequently reporting new stuff being added to the site. * If you care to read the articles on our web site you will find that they not only provide good information (as given by some others of course, but should we leave this out? of course not!) but also information and advice not given elsewhere to my knowledge. We are definitely not into plagiarism we have no need with our experience! * Lumping your two last points:- I am not worried in the first instance I think that I have caught on sufficiently to know that even Anti-Postings make good advertisements. This is proven to me by the hit count and by direct emails for the newsgroup readers. * I have not seen your own site yet but I am looking forward to taking a browse. I'll let you know what I think. Thanks once again for your own bluster, it all helps! Regards Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster Email: Web Site: http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose "dave weil" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: So for the best of the best look again at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose and don't forget to read it all, and between the lines! It's not a bad site for a UK specific website. It's an immature site that I'm sure will grow with time. But it's hardly "the best of the best". It's barely adequate. It doesn't address very many rose issues and is pretty much barebones. For instance, *our* local website has FAR more valuable information regarding roses. http://www.nashvillerosesociety.com/ I don't care much for the look and feel of the NRS site, but it still offers practical information about the challenges that our area offers (issues that are FAR different than the issues that the UK growers face). So, drop the smugness and get on with building your site. PS, we have quite a few National winning members as well, including a well-known breeder or two *and* Ted Mills, who makes one of the most famous rose formulations sold in the States. I haven't been a member for a couple of years, but I still consult the website on occasion. Your site frankly doesn't need your bluster. That must be good advice then if you have five books in agreement with our own article on pruning! Perhaps that say's something in itself? Yes, it says that, while it's OK to offer that *widely* available information on *your* web site (only one of dozens of websites that give the same information I might add), next time, please read the post before you promote your site instead of relying on a simple keyword to trigger some sort of quasiautoresponsebot sort of response. It will do your cause well, instead of causing people to ignore possible HELPFUL posts from you, as well as possibly avoiding the very website that you are trying to promote. Don' worry though, once you've been in the newsgroups awhile, you're likely to catch on. |
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Thank you once again for your kind words, your not a related to that grape
grower are you? Just to make a few points double'y clear!!:- * I need to respond when information about our web site is incorrect, obvious really! * Agreed the Bexrose web site is a young site having been started at the beginning of this year (rather that immature, grapes again!). * We are working on developing the site as can be clearly seen from my postings here that are frequently reporting new stuff being added to the site. * If you care to read the articles on our web site you will find that they not only provide good information (as given by some others of course, but should we leave this out? of course not!) but also information and advice not given elsewhere to my knowledge. We are definitely not into plagiarism we have no need with our experience! * Lumping your two last points:- I am not worried in the first instance I think that I have caught on sufficiently to know that even Anti-Postings make good advertisements. This is proven to me by the hit count and by direct emails for the newsgroup readers. * I have not seen your own site yet but I am looking forward to taking a browse. I'll let you know what I think. Thanks once again for your own bluster, it all helps! Regards Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster Email: Web Site: http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose "dave weil" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: So for the best of the best look again at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose and don't forget to read it all, and between the lines! It's not a bad site for a UK specific website. It's an immature site that I'm sure will grow with time. But it's hardly "the best of the best". It's barely adequate. It doesn't address very many rose issues and is pretty much barebones. For instance, *our* local website has FAR more valuable information regarding roses. http://www.nashvillerosesociety.com/ I don't care much for the look and feel of the NRS site, but it still offers practical information about the challenges that our area offers (issues that are FAR different than the issues that the UK growers face). So, drop the smugness and get on with building your site. PS, we have quite a few National winning members as well, including a well-known breeder or two *and* Ted Mills, who makes one of the most famous rose formulations sold in the States. I haven't been a member for a couple of years, but I still consult the website on occasion. Your site frankly doesn't need your bluster. That must be good advice then if you have five books in agreement with our own article on pruning! Perhaps that say's something in itself? Yes, it says that, while it's OK to offer that *widely* available information on *your* web site (only one of dozens of websites that give the same information I might add), next time, please read the post before you promote your site instead of relying on a simple keyword to trigger some sort of quasiautoresponsebot sort of response. It will do your cause well, instead of causing people to ignore possible HELPFUL posts from you, as well as possibly avoiding the very website that you are trying to promote. Don' worry though, once you've been in the newsgroups awhile, you're likely to catch on. |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:02:56 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: Dave - my only experience pruning that way has been with ramblers - my husband will often take a gas powered hedge trimmer to a well established growth of 4 Red Cascade. However, I also have rabbits who have a tendency to do straight cuts on some of my roses. Most do just fine and grow back without a problem. Given your specific problem rose, what about an experiment? Prune a cane or two with the straight across method, at the same time prune another cane or two using the traditional method. Keep track of how they do. Good luck! Gail Well, I'm looking for more of a total bush approach. I sort of thought that the idea of cutting straight across the middle of a large bush was rather whacked (pardon the pun), but the poster said that it seemed to work well. I wish I could find the original post. I'd like some details about it this unusual technique. |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:02:56 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: Dave - my only experience pruning that way has been with ramblers - my husband will often take a gas powered hedge trimmer to a well established growth of 4 Red Cascade. However, I also have rabbits who have a tendency to do straight cuts on some of my roses. Most do just fine and grow back without a problem. Given your specific problem rose, what about an experiment? Prune a cane or two with the straight across method, at the same time prune another cane or two using the traditional method. Keep track of how they do. Good luck! Gail Well, I'm looking for more of a total bush approach. I sort of thought that the idea of cutting straight across the middle of a large bush was rather whacked (pardon the pun), but the poster said that it seemed to work well. I wish I could find the original post. I'd like some details about it this unusual technique. |
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"dave weil" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: That must be good advice then if you have five books in agreement with our own article on pruning! Perhaps that say's something in itself? Yes, it says that, while it's OK to offer that *widely* available information on *your* web site (only one of dozens of websites that give the same information I might add), next time, please read the post before you promote your site instead of relying on a simple keyword to trigger some sort of quasiautoresponsebot sort of response. It will do your cause well, instead of causing people to ignore possible HELPFUL posts from you, as well as possibly avoiding the very website that you are trying to promote. Since you chose to raise the topic, I will mention that your own posts to urg have done your own cause, whatever that might be, a great deal of harm, so why don't you just bugger off? The Bexhill Rose Society is doing everybody interested in roses a great service maintaining their excellent website. Don' worry though, once you've been in the newsgroups awhile, you're likely to catch on. Put that in front of a mirror. Franz |
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"dave weil" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: So for the best of the best look again at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose and don't forget to read it all, and between the lines! It's not a bad site for a UK specific website. It's an immature site that I'm sure will grow with time. But it's hardly "the best of the best". It's barely adequate. It doesn't address very many rose issues and is pretty much barebones. For instance, *our* local website has FAR more valuable information regarding roses. http://www.nashvillerosesociety.com/ I don't care much for the look and feel of the NRS site, but it still offers practical information about the challenges that our area offers (issues that are FAR different than the issues that the UK growers face). So, drop the smugness and get on with building your site. PS, we have quite a few National winning members as well, including a well-known breeder or two *and* Ted Mills, who makes one of the most famous rose formulations sold in the States. I haven't been a member for a couple of years, but I still consult the website on occasion. Your site frankly doesn't need your bluster. And to be even more frank, uk.rec.gardens needs your bluster even less. Franz |
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"dave weil" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: So for the best of the best look again at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose and don't forget to read it all, and between the lines! It's not a bad site for a UK specific website. It's an immature site that I'm sure will grow with time. But it's hardly "the best of the best". It's barely adequate. It doesn't address very many rose issues and is pretty much barebones. For instance, *our* local website has FAR more valuable information regarding roses. http://www.nashvillerosesociety.com/ I don't care much for the look and feel of the NRS site, but it still offers practical information about the challenges that our area offers (issues that are FAR different than the issues that the UK growers face). So, drop the smugness and get on with building your site. PS, we have quite a few National winning members as well, including a well-known breeder or two *and* Ted Mills, who makes one of the most famous rose formulations sold in the States. I haven't been a member for a couple of years, but I still consult the website on occasion. Your site frankly doesn't need your bluster. And to be even more frank, uk.rec.gardens needs your bluster even less. Franz |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:16:39 +0000 (UTC), "Martin"
wrote: Thank you once again for your kind words, your not a related to that grape grower are you? Just to make a few points double'y clear!!:- * I need to respond when information about our web site is incorrect, obvious really! * Agreed the Bexrose web site is a young site having been started at the beginning of this year (rather that immature, grapes again!). * We are working on developing the site as can be clearly seen from my postings here that are frequently reporting new stuff being added to the site. * If you care to read the articles on our web site you will find that they not only provide good information (as given by some others of course, but should we leave this out? of course not!) but also information and advice not given elsewhere to my knowledge. We are definitely not into plagiarism we have no need with our experience! * Lumping your two last points:- I am not worried in the first instance I think that I have caught on sufficiently to know that even Anti-Postings make good advertisements. This is proven to me by the hit count and by direct emails for the newsgroup readers. * I have not seen your own site yet but I am looking forward to taking a browse. I'll let you know what I think. Thanks once again for your own bluster, it all helps! Regards Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster Well, that cinches it. You're officially an asshole...with a website...go figure... Goodbye. |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:16:39 +0000 (UTC), "Martin"
wrote: Thank you once again for your kind words, your not a related to that grape grower are you? Just to make a few points double'y clear!!:- * I need to respond when information about our web site is incorrect, obvious really! * Agreed the Bexrose web site is a young site having been started at the beginning of this year (rather that immature, grapes again!). * We are working on developing the site as can be clearly seen from my postings here that are frequently reporting new stuff being added to the site. * If you care to read the articles on our web site you will find that they not only provide good information (as given by some others of course, but should we leave this out? of course not!) but also information and advice not given elsewhere to my knowledge. We are definitely not into plagiarism we have no need with our experience! * Lumping your two last points:- I am not worried in the first instance I think that I have caught on sufficiently to know that even Anti-Postings make good advertisements. This is proven to me by the hit count and by direct emails for the newsgroup readers. * I have not seen your own site yet but I am looking forward to taking a browse. I'll let you know what I think. Thanks once again for your own bluster, it all helps! Regards Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster Well, that cinches it. You're officially an asshole...with a website...go figure... Goodbye. |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:32:30 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: "dave weil" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: That must be good advice then if you have five books in agreement with our own article on pruning! Perhaps that say's something in itself? Yes, it says that, while it's OK to offer that *widely* available information on *your* web site (only one of dozens of websites that give the same information I might add), next time, please read the post before you promote your site instead of relying on a simple keyword to trigger some sort of quasiautoresponsebot sort of response. It will do your cause well, instead of causing people to ignore possible HELPFUL posts from you, as well as possibly avoiding the very website that you are trying to promote. Since you chose to raise the topic, I will mention that your own posts to urg have done your own cause, whatever that might be, a great deal of harm, so why don't you just bugger off? My cause, as you put it, was not to be lectured by someone when I'm trying to get information that was recently posted on this newsgroup. there's nothing new about pruning on the Bexrose site and I was specifically requesting information about a specific (even if Mr. Double thinks it's wrong) pruning method that sounded controversial enough to be interesting. The Bexhill Rose Society is doing everybody interested in roses a great service maintaining their excellent website. Well, you and I differ on the quality. It's not a bad site, but it's not "the best of the best", in my humble opinion. Not even close. I can guarantee you that I won't be monitoring it, giving Mr. Double any more "hits", as it matures. Don' worry though, once you've been in the newsgroups awhile, you're likely to catch on. Put that in front of a mirror. You first. Lecture all you want. |
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"Shiva" wrote in message news:aHlwYXRpYQ==.7202601e91c8468d4eac99439faceacd @1093036389.nulluser.com... Franz Heymann wrote: "dave weil" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: That must be good advice then if you have five books in agreement with our own article on pruning! Perhaps that say's something in itself? Yes, it says that, while it's OK to offer that *widely* available information on *your* web site (only one of dozens of websites that give the same information I might add), next time, please read the post before you promote your site instead of relying on a simple keyword to trigger some sort of quasiautoresponsebot sort of response. It will do your cause well, instead of causing people to ignore possible HELPFUL posts from you, as well as possibly avoiding the very website that you are trying to promote. Since you chose to raise the topic, I will mention that your own posts to urg have done your own cause, whatever that might be, a great deal of harm, so why don't you just bugger off? The Bexhill Rose Society is doing everybody interested in roses a great service maintaining their excellent website. Don' worry though, once you've been in the newsgroups awhile, you're likely to catch on. Put that in front of a mirror. Franz Hey Martin aka "Franz." You looked like an idiot when you were just popping up at every moment promoting your half-assed web site. Now that you are talking to yourself via a sock puppet you look even worse. We can read HEADERS, moron. In that case, take the trouble to read them correctly. Franz |
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"Shiva" wrote in message news:aHlwYXRpYQ==.7202601e91c8468d4eac99439faceacd @1093036389.nulluser.com... Franz Heymann wrote: "dave weil" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: That must be good advice then if you have five books in agreement with our own article on pruning! Perhaps that say's something in itself? Yes, it says that, while it's OK to offer that *widely* available information on *your* web site (only one of dozens of websites that give the same information I might add), next time, please read the post before you promote your site instead of relying on a simple keyword to trigger some sort of quasiautoresponsebot sort of response. It will do your cause well, instead of causing people to ignore possible HELPFUL posts from you, as well as possibly avoiding the very website that you are trying to promote. Since you chose to raise the topic, I will mention that your own posts to urg have done your own cause, whatever that might be, a great deal of harm, so why don't you just bugger off? The Bexhill Rose Society is doing everybody interested in roses a great service maintaining their excellent website. Don' worry though, once you've been in the newsgroups awhile, you're likely to catch on. Put that in front of a mirror. Franz Hey Martin aka "Franz." You looked like an idiot when you were just popping up at every moment promoting your half-assed web site. Now that you are talking to yourself via a sock puppet you look even worse. We can read HEADERS, moron. In that case, take the trouble to read them correctly. Franz |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:56:22 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: "dave weil" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: So for the best of the best look again at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose and don't forget to read it all, and between the lines! It's not a bad site for a UK specific website. It's an immature site that I'm sure will grow with time. But it's hardly "the best of the best". It's barely adequate. It doesn't address very many rose issues and is pretty much barebones. For instance, *our* local website has FAR more valuable information regarding roses. http://www.nashvillerosesociety.com/ I don't care much for the look and feel of the NRS site, but it still offers practical information about the challenges that our area offers (issues that are FAR different than the issues that the UK growers face). So, drop the smugness and get on with building your site. PS, we have quite a few National winning members as well, including a well-known breeder or two *and* Ted Mills, who makes one of the most famous rose formulations sold in the States. I haven't been a member for a couple of years, but I still consult the website on occasion. Your site frankly doesn't need your bluster. And to be even more frank, uk.rec.gardens needs your bluster even less. Franz Well, tell your "Double" to stop crossposting then. My original post was rec.gardens.roses ONLY. Wenn ich unhöflich war, würde ich "Halt's Maul" sagen. |
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