I envy you folks in warm climates and long growing seasons. Here on the
NH border I am limited in what will truly flourish and bloom
abundantly. So I need your help.
I am looking for some new roses.
They can't be hybrid teas - floribunda, austins & shrubs are ok.
No climbers. no PINKs( my husband will kill me if I plant any more)
I was taken with "purple Tiger" but most of what I've read implies
it's not an easy keeper.
I'd like to know what you think of my chances with these and any others
you recommend. Although I have 25 acres I don't have a huge amount of
good sunny places so I am limited in how many I plant and want to get
the most out of what I do. I've decided no more once bloomers and
really want those that will bloom profusely all summer. I live on a
hill and if it helps I have all the horse manure I could possibly want.
I like the looks of
Tradescant
scentimental
oranges n lemons
royal wedding
chelsea morning
maybe Betty Boop I can't decide Im attracted and appalled

did I mention we just got another 8 inches of snow??? I can dream about
spring though.

katherine

wrote:
I envy you folks in warm climates and long growing seasons. Here on the
NH border I am limited in what will truly flourish and bloom
abundantly. So I need your help.
I am looking for some new roses.
...
Tradescant
...

Katherine, since I am a Zone 9 gardener, I cannot speak to the
cold-hardiness of any of these roses from personal experience. However,
here is a link to the Rosarian Cheryl Netter's garden and as she grows
these roses in Colorado, it ought to give you a hint of the
cold-hardiness of these roses in her cold climate:
http://members.fortunecity.com/cnett...our/index.html

There is quite a list of Austins and other roses that she seems to grow
enumerated on that page. Though Gertrude Jekyll's colour and perfume are
excellent, you need to keep away from pink roses which is a pity!
Anyway, I too grow several of the roses Ms. Netter grows in her garden,
but like I said, I can only speak for my own climate and refer you to
someone like Ms. Netter who is the real cold weather gardener.

Tradescant is the one rose I grow here from among your list. I have
heard that it grows to some 12 feet long canes in Zone 10 Southern
California, and here in its fourth year, it is about six feet tall for
me. This compendium of rose information says that Tradescant grows from
Zone 5 through Zone 10:
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=2505
However, they give the size as 3 feet, which must be the size to which
it grows in Zone 5 may be. FWIW, it is a most excellent rose, absolutely
gorgeous and fragrant. Here in our Zone 9, the dark silky petals will
burn in the heat of the afternoon sun, so I have it planted under the
afternoon shade of a poor (misplanted in scorching sun) gigantic and
prolific Camellia bush. I have Tradescant in a triangular grouping with
Fair Bianca and Pink Cardinal Hume (a Kim Rupert rose) and we love the
romantic combination of dark red, pink and white blossoms that are all
very old-fashioned in shape.

Good luck!

--
Radika
California
USDA 9 / Sunset 15

wrote in message oups.com...
I envy you folks in warm climates and long growing seasons. Here on the
NH border I am limited in what will truly flourish and bloom
abundantly. So I need your help.
I am looking for some new roses.
They can't be hybrid teas - floribunda, austins & shrubs are ok.
No climbers. no PINKs( my husband will kill me if I plant any more)
I was taken with "purple Tiger" but most of what I've read implies
it's not an easy keeper.
I'd like to know what you think of my chances with these and any others
you recommend. Although I have 25 acres I don't have a huge amount of
good sunny places so I am limited in how many I plant and want to get
the most out of what I do. I've decided no more once bloomers and
really want those that will bloom profusely all summer. I live on a
hill and if it helps I have all the horse manure I could possibly want.
I like the looks of
Tradescant
scentimental
oranges n lemons
royal wedding
chelsea morning
maybe Betty Boop I can't decide Im attracted and appalled

did I mention we just got another 8 inches of snow??? I can dream about
spring though.

katherine

Hello Katherine,

I live in a VERY different climate, Kefalonia Island, HELLAS (Greece).
It is like zone 9,5-10 USA or Canada. Roses do well from from April to
June, they suffer a lot June-July and then again do well from August
to November. I still got a few blooms now.
Seems that we like the same things in roses(I like "SCENTIMENTAL" &
"ORANGES & LEMONS",though not available here) , so my recommendations
(no HT, no clibers, no rose colours) a

-RHAPSODY IN BLUE ("Frantasia", Shrub, Rose of the Year 2003, the
closest to blue yet)
-MARGARET MERRIL ("Harkuly" White Fragrant Floribunda by Harkness)
-SHEILA'S PERFUME (Fragrant, bicolour red-yellow Floribunda)
-GALLICA VERICOLOR (bicolour red-white Shrub, with stripes & dots)
-CRAZY FOR YOU ( " " Floribunda " " ,
"Wekroalt")
-J.H.PIERNEEF ( " " " " " )
-CHARLESTON (bicolour red-yellow Floribunda)
-BUFFY SAINTE-MARIE (Wonderful Floribunda by Mander 1996, semi-double
but many beautiful diferrent colour tones)
-TABRIS (Very beautiful semi-double Floribinda by Kordes 1983, with
creamy petals edged cherry red).

Some of the above are bought from Greece, others from EU (mostly UK)
and some from Canada.
I'm not entusiastic about Austins, as they don't do very well here,
maybe because of the high temperatures.

Hope I helped a little (sorry for my bad english).

Regards and keep dreaming about Spring.
Melitie

Thanks for your input. I find such inconsistent information. The
helpmefind site seems to have higher zones for all the roses I 'm
looking at. If I listen to it I get depressed and think I'll lose
whatever I plant but I know there are lots of Zone 5 rosarians who
manage.
Also one J&P catlaog said it had 50 petals the next year said 105 .

I looked up the roses you recommended; I was excited about Buffy Saint
Marie ( my husband was a big fan of her music) but it is classed as a
hybrid tea and not hardy here. Crazy for you and JH pierneef is a
climber. Sheila's Perfume , charleston and Tabris are hardy to zone 6.
I looked thme up on helpmefind.com and I really wonder if the zone
hardyiness is correct as it has a zone higher on most roses compared to
other sources especailly the Ortho Guide to Roses. Wish I knew who to
believe. I really wish some Zone 5 growers were responding guess
that's the only way I'll really know. Thanks for your input.
Katherine

I looked up the roses you recommended; I was excited about Buffy Saint
Marie ( my husband was a big fan of her music) but it is classed as a
hybrid tea and not hardy here. Crazy for you and JH pierneef is a
climber. Sheila's Perfume , charleston and Tabris are hardy to zone 6.
I looked thme up on helpmefind.com and I really wonder if the zone
hardyiness is correct as it has a zone higher on most roses compared to
other sources especailly the Ortho Guide to Roses. Wish I knew who to
believe. I really wish some Zone 5 growers were responding guess
that's the only way I'll really know. Thanks for your input.
Katherine