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Old 23-07-2003, 03:32 AM
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Howdy folks,
In regards to this snippet
Have you been able to get to the Natural Gardener? They have a small grove of
fruit trees in the yard near the herb garden. I believe it wheelchair
accessible. It's all in the pruning. People who are ambulatory prune their
fruit trees so they can reach them, as well. The fruits at Natural Gardener are
wide, but not more than about 7 feet, if I recall correctly.


Two years ago, when I was doing some plant hunting John at the
nursery formally named 'Gardenville' told me he wouldn't sell the
dwarf peaches because they did not do well here. The ones in the
current garden are standards that are pruned to a smaller size. The
varieties are ones he sells in January and John always picks good
stuff.
Speaking of mobility, the older and creakier I get the more I
enjoy my fifty or so, ten gallon plastic stock containers that I use
for my container garden . I am becoming less inclined to bend all the
way down to the dirt. Well bending isn't as much of a problem as
getting back up. With the soil level raised in the containers it saves
a lot of wear and tear on the back.
When I'm working with the kindergarden gardeners they find it really
amusing that when I get down to do some serious weeding at ground
level, I tend to stay there.

take care,
Steve Coyle
www.austingardencenter.com

Obscure P.S. note: A couple of months ago we were talking about wood
from Africa in this forum. For the one or two people who were really
interested in this topic, I was doing a news search on current events
in Liberia and saw an article in the Christian Science Monitor on
interestingly enough the connection between the political situation
there and their timber industry.
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Old 23-07-2003, 05:42 PM
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On 22 Jul 2003 19:30:22 -0700, (Steve Coyle) wrote:


Two years ago, when I was doing some plant hunting John at the
nursery formally named 'Gardenville' told me he wouldn't sell the
dwarf peaches because they did not do well here.


No, it's not formally named "Gardenville" any more. It's formally named The
Natural Gardener.
www.naturalgardeneraustin.com

Malcolm Beck was "Gardenville" then I believe he sold the name to a company
which makes compost and mulch sold in bags under the name Native Texas Shredded
Hardwood, or some such thing.


The ones in the current garden are standards that are pruned to a smaller size. The
varieties are ones he sells in January and John always picks good
stuff. Speaking of mobility, the older and creakier I get the more I
enjoy my fifty or so, ten gallon plastic stock containers that I use
for my container garden . I am becoming less inclined to bend all the
way down to the dirt. Well bending isn't as much of a problem as
getting back up. With the soil level raised in the containers it saves
a lot of wear and tear on the back.


When I'm working with the kindergarden gardeners they find it really
amusing that when I get down to do some serious weeding at ground
level, I tend to stay there.

take care,
Steve Coyle
www.austingardencenter.com

Obscure P.S. note: A couple of months ago we were talking about wood
from Africa in this forum. For the one or two people who were really
interested in this topic, I was doing a news search on current events
in Liberia and saw an article in the Christian Science Monitor on
interestingly enough the connection between the political situation
there and their timber industry.


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Old 24-07-2003, 12:26 AM
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Howdy folks,
In regards to this snipped exchange


" Two years ago, when I was doing some plant hunting John at the
nursery formally named 'Gardenville' told me he wouldn't sell the
dwarf peaches because they did not do well here.


" No, it's not formally named "Gardenville" any more. It's formally named The
Natural Gardener.


Sorry you had a hard time parsing my statement. I was using the
usage as in 'was once known as'. Example: 'The Artist formally know as
Prince"

" Malcolm Beck was "Gardenville" then I believe he sold the name to a
company
which makes compost and mulch sold in bags under the name Native Texas Shredded
Hardwood, or some such thing.


Malcolm back, for new gardeners is worth a quick search on the net
or in the library for his valuable writings on organic gardening in
Texas. He founded 'Garden-Ville' out of San Antonio and franchised
John's operation in Austin. When he retired a few years ago he sold
not just the name but the entire product line and his business assets
in San Antonio.

Garden-Ville's web site is:

http://www.garden-ville.com/

And I have spent more on their potting soil mix in my container garden
than I want to add up.

The Texas Native Mulch operation is out of Leander, or Cedar Park I
can't remember which. ( Someone check me on this, I don't use it so I
don't have a bag laying around.) Has anyone driven by their operation,
and figured out their secret ingredient, that makes their mulch
'Texas Native'?

take care,
Steve Coyle
www.austingardencenter.com
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Old 24-07-2003, 12:44 AM
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Steve Coyle wrote:
Sorry you had a hard time parsing my statement. I was using the
usage as in 'was once known as'. Example: 'The Artist formally know as
Prince"


That would be "formerly" not "formally".


--
Victor M. Martinez

http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv

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Old 24-07-2003, 02:12 PM
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On 23 Jul 2003 16:22:34 -0700, (Steve Coyle) wrote:

Howdy folks,
In regards to this snipped exchange


" Two years ago, when I was doing some plant hunting John at the
nursery formally named 'Gardenville' told me he wouldn't sell the
dwarf peaches because they did not do well here.


" No, it's not formally named "Gardenville" any more. It's formally named The
Natural Gardener.


Sorry you had a hard time parsing my statement. I was using the
usage as in 'was once known as'. Example: 'The Artist formally know as
Prince"


Not actually, the correct word for that usage is "formerly." "Formally" is a
different word which means the opposite of casually "the formally dressed crowd
gathered in the hall."


" Malcolm Beck was "Gardenville" then I believe he sold the name to a
company
which makes compost and mulch sold in bags under the name Native Texas Shredded
Hardwood, or some such thing.


Malcolm back, for new gardeners is worth a quick search on the net
or in the library for his valuable writings on organic gardening in
Texas. He founded 'Garden-Ville' out of San Antonio and franchised
John's operation in Austin. When he retired a few years ago he sold
not just the name but the entire product line and his business assets
in San Antonio.

Garden-Ville's web site is:

http://www.garden-ville.com/

And I have spent more on their potting soil mix in my container garden
than I want to add up.

The Texas Native Mulch operation is out of Leander, or Cedar Park I
can't remember which. ( Someone check me on this, I don't use it so I
don't have a bag laying around.) Has anyone driven by their operation,
and figured out their secret ingredient, that makes their mulch
'Texas Native'?

take care,
Steve Coyle
www.austingardencenter.com




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Old 25-07-2003, 07:12 AM
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In regards to this message:
Not actually, the correct word for that usage is "formerly." "Formally" is a
different word which means the opposite of casually "the formally dressed crowd
gathered in the hall."


Thanks for the clarification. Should have listened to my third
grade teacher who told me someday I might actually appreciate
spelling.
Worst spelling error I ever made was writing ' furrier' when I met '
farrier' in a short story. One vowel, but the wrong word. Slipped
through spellcheck, slipped by the editor and after it was published I
got a torrent of communication pointing out the error of my ways,
which surprised me since I had assumed no one actually reads obscure
literary journals, that they just sort of laid around the shelves of
English departments.

Back to Peaches: I noticed that Dixieland has mentioned,anybody
have another variety of Peach that has worked really well for them?
I was also interested if any one has been out to the Salt Lick out
near Driftwood lately and toured the Rose gardens and the Peach groves
out back?
About six years ago the owners wanted to start a peach grove to
supply their peach cobbler, and they planted five hundred trees. If I
remember correctly they used 'Redskin', 'Belle of Georgia" ,
'Feliciana' and some others I can't remember. I was wondering how
they were doing with their peaches, since my new healthier diet keeps
me away from the huge racks of beef ribs that I remember so fondly,
have not been out there for some time.

take care,
Steve Coyle
www.austingardencenter.com
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Old 26-07-2003, 12:42 AM
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I can't answer the peach variety question, but I will tell you that this
'Dixieland' has given me anywhere from baseball to softball sized fruits, which
have not one ounce of woodiness or tartness to them. I am simply amazed and
wonder why I didn't always have fruit trees. I do plan to plant another one or
two in the front garden since in the backyard wildlife habitat, there are many
peaches with one bite here or there. There's a lot more going on in the back
with the water and many provided habitats for them, but up front is more
conformed to ordinary landscape.

I would like to plant plums, apricots and who knows what else. I'll see what
they all have when the proper time comes.

V


On 24 Jul 2003 23:06:12 -0700, (Steve Coyle) wrote:


Thanks for the clarification. Should have listened to my third
grade teacher who told me someday I might actually appreciate
spelling.
Worst spelling error I ever made was writing ' furrier' when I met '
farrier' in a short story. One vowel, but the wrong word. Slipped
through spellcheck, slipped by the editor and after it was published I
got a torrent of communication pointing out the error of my ways,
which surprised me since I had assumed no one actually reads obscure
literary journals, that they just sort of laid around the shelves of
English departments.

Back to Peaches: I noticed that Dixieland has mentioned,anybody
have another variety of Peach that has worked really well for them?
I was also interested if any one has been out to the Salt Lick out
near Driftwood lately and toured the Rose gardens and the Peach groves
out back?
About six years ago the owners wanted to start a peach grove to
supply their peach cobbler, and they planted five hundred trees. If I
remember correctly they used 'Redskin', 'Belle of Georgia" ,
'Feliciana' and some others I can't remember. I was wondering how
they were doing with their peaches, since my new healthier diet keeps
me away from the huge racks of beef ribs that I remember so fondly,
have not been out there for some time.

take care,
Steve Coyle
www.austingardencenter.com

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