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Sandy Beotches wrote:
= AAA Landscape/Turfgrass America in Oak Hill has a 35% off sale on everything but grass. Although this makes for a good deal on most, their larger trees seemed like very good buys. I bought a 45 gallon Chinquapin Oak (yea) and a 45 gallon Chinese Pistache (boo) for $123 each today. Not a huge selection, but 45g Red Oaks (yea), Live Oaks (boo), Cedar Elms (Yea), Mexican Red Bud (yea), Purple Plum (boo) and Mexican Plum (yea) at that price, as well as many crepe myrtles (boo) of various sizes. Alas, closed Sunday. Texas Master Naturalist in Houston -- = J. Kolenovsky, A+, Network +, MCP =F4=BF=F4 - http://www.celestialhabitats.com - business =F4=BF=F4 - http://www.hal-pc.org/~garden/personal.html - personal |
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J Kolenovsky wrote:
45 gallon Chinese Pistache (boo) ? Not a Texas Pistache, but I thought these were still generally considered on the (yea) end of things. We have one that I'm very fond of. Whyforso a (boo)? |
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:02:06 GMT, Sandy Beotches opined:
J Kolenovsky wrote: 45 gallon Chinese Pistache (boo) ? Not a Texas Pistache, but I thought these were still generally considered on the (yea) end of things. We have one that I'm very fond of. Whyforso a (boo)? Some purists don't even like the idea of adapted species, regardless whether or not they are invasive. We have a Chinese pistache and love it. It's a long lived tree, very fast growing, lovely strap leaf foliage and in about 5 years, sizeable from a mere 5 gallon tree. Ours is in the ground for 2 years and from the original 5 feet is now approximately 15 feet tall. V |
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animaux wrote:
Some purists don't even like the idea of adapted species, regardless whether or not they are invasive. We have a Chinese pistache and love it. It's a long lived tree, very fast growing, lovely strap leaf foliage and in about 5 years, sizeable from a mere 5 gallon tree. Ours is in the ground for 2 years and from the original 5 feet is now approximately 15 feet tall. V That was pretty much my understanding. If they had had a Texas Pistache, I would have snagged it instead, but I love the other Chinese Pistache we have, so that was my first choice of the selection available. Normally I prefer to get the smallest plant available and nurture it, but with oak wilt continuing to kill off our live oaks, plus me killing off the $%#&* paper mulberries, if I can 'cheat' and get 'new' mature trees a few years earlier, it's worth the extra bux. Our acre doesn't have the lovely bottomland dirt you've described, so it takes a little longer for trees to get going here in Oak Hill. |
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And I believe the Chinese Pistachio is a TAMU Superstar variety too.
"Sandy Beotches" wrote in message . com... animaux wrote: Some purists don't even like the idea of adapted species, regardless whether or not they are invasive. We have a Chinese pistache and love it. It's a long lived tree, very fast growing, lovely strap leaf foliage and in about 5 years, sizeable from a mere 5 gallon tree. Ours is in the ground for 2 years and from the original 5 feet is now approximately 15 feet tall. V That was pretty much my understanding. If they had had a Texas Pistache, I would have snagged it instead, but I love the other Chinese Pistache we have, so that was my first choice of the selection available. Normally I prefer to get the smallest plant available and nurture it, but with oak wilt continuing to kill off our live oaks, plus me killing off the $%#&* paper mulberries, if I can 'cheat' and get 'new' mature trees a few years earlier, it's worth the extra bux. Our acre doesn't have the lovely bottomland dirt you've described, so it takes a little longer for trees to get going here in Oak Hill. |
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Sandy Beotches wrote:
off the $%#&* paper mulberries, if I can 'cheat' and get 'new' mature trees a few years earlier, it's worth the extra bux. Our acre doesn't You might consider that more often than not, you really don't get those "few years" if you buy a larger tree. Large trees tend to suffer a worse transplant shock and take a year or two to recover. Whereas smaller trees get going right away. Two years ago (or was it three?) we planted one 5 gallon lacey oak and one 1 gallon at the same time. The 1 gallon went from being a rather puny 3' twig to being a beautiful young tree about 6 feet tall. The 5 gallon hasn't grown more than a few inches and is now shorter than the other tree. As usual, YMMV. -- Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:06:40 GMT, Sandy Beotches opined:
That was pretty much my understanding. If they had had a Texas Pistache, I would have snagged it instead, but I love the other Chinese Pistache we have, so that was my first choice of the selection available. Normally I prefer to get the smallest plant available and nurture it, but with oak wilt continuing to kill off our live oaks, plus me killing off the $%#&* paper mulberries, if I can 'cheat' and get 'new' mature trees a few years earlier, it's worth the extra bux. Our acre doesn't have the lovely bottomland dirt you've described, so it takes a little longer for trees to get going here in Oak Hill. Have you tried Chinkapin oak? I may have spelled it wrong, but I know it's a moderate grower, native and more resistant of oak wilt. I dread wilt spreading here. We have live oaks with diameters of 3-4 feet, one is at least 4 feet. If we lost that, wow. I would (infor for the sake of others) stay away from Chinese tallow, and silver maple. Those two definitely do not belong here. Hope your pistache is a good one. They are very well adapted to our climate and soils...even shallow. V |
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Babberney wrote:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:44:12 GMT, animaux wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:39:43 +0000 (UTC), (Victor M. Martinez) opined: You might consider that more often than not, you really don't get those "few years" if you buy a larger tree. Large trees tend to suffer a worse transplant shock and take a year or two to recover. Whereas smaller trees get going right away. Two years ago (or was it three?) we planted one 5 gallon lacey oak and one 1 gallon at the same time. The 1 gallon went from being a rather puny 3' twig to being a beautiful young tree about 6 feet tall. The 5 gallon hasn't grown more than a few inches and is now shorter than the other tree. As usual, YMMV. If this means anything, my experience is exactly the same. Particularly with redbud trees. V I will add that seminars and trade journals geared to the arboriculture industry confirm these results. Keith For more info about the International Society of Arboriculture, please visit http://www.isa-arbor.com/home.asp. For consumer info about tree care, visit http://www.treesaregood.com/ Well thanks to all of you for confirming that I have wasted my money ;-P At least they were on sale :-) |
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Babberney wrote:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:44:12 GMT, animaux wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:39:43 +0000 (UTC), (Victor M. Martinez) opined: You might consider that more often than not, you really don't get those "few years" if you buy a larger tree. Large trees tend to suffer a worse transplant shock and take a year or two to recover. Whereas smaller trees get going right away. Two years ago (or was it three?) we planted one 5 gallon lacey oak and one 1 gallon at the same time. The 1 gallon went from being a rather puny 3' twig to being a beautiful young tree about 6 feet tall. The 5 gallon hasn't grown more than a few inches and is now shorter than the other tree. As usual, YMMV. If this means anything, my experience is exactly the same. Particularly with redbud trees. V I will add that seminars and trade journals geared to the arboriculture industry confirm these results. Keith For more info about the International Society of Arboriculture, please visit http://www.isa-arbor.com/home.asp. For consumer info about tree care, visit http://www.treesaregood.com/ Well thanks to all of you for confirming that I have wasted my money ;-P At least they were on sale :-) |
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In article . com, Sandy
Beotches wrote: Well thanks to all of you for confirming that I have wasted my money ;-P At least they were on sale :-) I do not know if your trees are container grown or field harvested but thought it might be helpful to pass along another factoid. Skip Richter on the KLRU garden show said a question he gets sometimes is a person has a tree that thrives for 6-7 years and then declines. The reason he offered was that some fast growing trees stay in their containers too long at the stores and develop girdling roots. This is not a problem when the tree is young, but eventurally as the tree grows the girdling roots kill the tree. When you have any container grown plant, this is a possibility and since you just bought yours you should check to make sure they do not have the problem and cut away roots that appear to circling the container so as to stop the problem now (before it is too late). Roland |
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Joe Doe wrote:
In article . com, Sandy Beotches wrote: Well thanks to all of you for confirming that I have wasted my money ;-P At least they were on sale :-) I do not know if your trees are container grown or field harvested but thought it might be helpful to pass along another factoid. Skip Richter on the KLRU garden show said a question he gets sometimes is a person has a tree that thrives for 6-7 years and then declines. The reason he offered was that some fast growing trees stay in their containers too long at the stores and develop girdling roots. This is not a problem when the tree is young, but eventurally as the tree grows the girdling roots kill the tree. When you have any container grown plant, this is a possibility and since you just bought yours you should check to make sure they do not have the problem and cut away roots that appear to circling the container so as to stop the problem now (before it is too late). Roland Thanks for the tip. They're still in containers, waiting for the ground to dry a little before digging the holes, but I'll spread the roots where possible and trim any that are too entwined. |
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:28:47 GMT, Sandy Beotches opined:
Well thanks to all of you for confirming that I have wasted my money ;-P At least they were on sale :-) Oh geeze, I don't think that was the intention, but to inform people (not only you) that, buying larger trees doesn't always give the quick result. Your trees are fine. All this information means is next time you are in the nursery and see a tree in a small five gallon container and it's about 20 dollars, you'll know the secret the industry doesn't want you to know. Victoria |
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Joe Doe wrote:
When you have any container grown plant, this is a possibility and since you just bought yours you should check to make sure they do not have the problem and cut away roots that appear to circling the container so as to stop the problem now (before it is too late). You should *always* rough up the roots before planting anything in the ground (or even re-potting). -- Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv |
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