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Old 03-08-2005, 02:06 PM
Nick Maclaren
 
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In article ,
"michael adams" writes:
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| ISTR tea bags are popular with manufacturers because they enable them to
| use more of the tea dust which otherwise would have been unacceptable
| in premium teas certainly, because it could possibly have passed through
| the strainer and ended up floating on the surface of the tea.

Not "are" - "were". That ceased to be relevant long ago, when
teabags started to dominate the market and tea stopped being
imported in chests.

| I think a certain amount of dust is an inevitable by product of the
| drying and processing of even of the choicest varieties of "tips"
| taken from the ends of the leaves. Although whether dust produces
| any more or less flavour than chopped leaf I'm not certain.

It brews faster, there being a higher surface area relative to
the weight. You can do your own test by using tea, and then
crumbling the tea and using that.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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In other words ya gets more junk in teabags than with loose tea........H




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ISTR tea bags are popular with manufacturers because they enable them to
use more of the tea dust which otherwise would have been unacceptable
in premium teas certainly, because it could possibly have passed through
the strainer and ended up floating on the surface of the tea.

I think a certain amount of dust is an inevitable by product of the
drying and processing of even of the choicest varieties of "tips"
taken from the ends of the leaves. Although whether dust produces
any more or less flavour than chopped leaf I'm not certain.



michael adams

...








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Old 03-08-2005, 02:09 PM
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Oxymel of Squill wrote:
there's an EU regulation which prohibits tea bags being composted by local
authorities because they're classed as animal products.


No. There is an EU regulation that says that kitchen waste must be
considered likely to have come into contact with animal products and
could be a potential vector for infectious diseases. The UK did tighten
up on this particularly during the foot and mouth outbreak.

actually behind the expected EU silliness is the suggestion that if tea bags
have been in the cup with milk then any dairy disease might be transferred
to the compost. But if you take out the bag before adding the milk there
shouldn't be a problem


Read it in the Daily Mail or BBC website? The EU regulations leave it to
member governments what to do with domestic kitchen waste. See for example:



No shortage of tabloid journalists to make up spurious EU stories.
It even has a reference number as Euromyth #12.

Along with straight banana's and reliable journalists.

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I've been putting teabags in the compost bin for a couple of years now.

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In article ,
"michael adams" writes:
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| If only you'd remembered previously, that tea bags can sit around
| stewing happily in a teapot for weeks on end, you might have
| made the connection between that fact, and their reluctance
| to break down on a "normal" compost heap.
|
| But unfortunately you didn't.

On the contrary, I did. If you read my responses to you, you
will see where I explained why your deduction of a connexion
is wrong.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 03-08-2005, 02:32 PM
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Tea bags in general...am amazed that theland of tea lovers would even think
of using tea bags in the first place....whatever happened to the good old
loose tea in the teapot....there will always be an England as long as the
teapot survives.......H


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Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
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Who can still remember drawing water from the village well
in Oxfordshire


Well? You had a well? I can remember it being poured by hand
into a tank on an ox-cart (from a spring), delivered using the
cart, and then poured by hand into the house's tank. It then
had to be boiled before use.

That wasn't in Oxfordshire, of course :-)


Ox-cart! You had an _ox-cart_? We had it delivered in cans on the
back of donkey (and, I may say, it never caused the slightest
tummy-bug). That wasn't in Oxfordshire, either.


I used to draw water from a small foot-deep hole in the ground at the
foot of a brae. The hole was lined with stones, and the water was
usually a lovely shade of deep Cairngorm. (Coloured like Glen Grant or
Linkwood if it had been *VERY* wet.)

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" "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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If you read my responses to you,



QED//////////quite easily done....ha ha to quad etc.


michael adams

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snip



Regards,
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Old 03-08-2005, 04:29 PM
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and..........how about the bucket and shovel to pick up the horses
"leavings"...a prize piece of 'leftovers'....H



"martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 10:30:21 +0000 (UTC), "Mike"
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with the milk delivered by the milkman, measured out from his churn into a
blue and white ringed jug ;-)) which then had a muslin cloth with little
weighted beads, put over it and the jug stood on a marble slab in the cold
pantry.

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be ;-)


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Still a few of the oldies left...getting fewer tho by the year..........H




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Tea bags in general...am amazed that theland of tea lovers would even
think
of using tea bags in the first place....whatever happened to the good old
loose tea in the teapot....there will always be an England as long as the
teapot survives.......H


Thank goodness for the voice of sanity.

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michael adams wrote:
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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[...]
Not "are" - "were". That ceased to be relevant long ago, when
teabags started to dominate the market and tea stopped being
imported in chests.


...

I think you'll find that products that are popular with
manufacturers, quite often come to dominate the market,
if only because they attract the largest marketing effort.


This can be true: I think of prepacked goods, which quite often
confer a disadvantage on the customer. But it clearly isn't always
true.

Or are you suggesting that the popularity of tea bags is
due solely to public demand ?

[...]

I think he'd be right if that's what he's suggesting. Consider what a
bad reputation they had to start with: people very often used teabags
for the family and loose tea for visitors. There must have been a
considerable advantage to overcome that. The advantage is simplicity
of preparation and cleaning up: I use only leaf tea, but even with
that early example my children have preferred bags ever since they
started making their own tea. The supermarket shelves tell their own
tale, too: people are clearly buying more of the bags even when it's
the same tea -- my own favourite brand, for example, is now
available, if at all, in my local supermarkets _only_ in bag form,
and I have to remember to get it when I'm in London.

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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
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Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
"Mike" writes:

Who can still remember drawing water from the village well
in Oxfordshire

Well? You had a well? I can remember it being poured by hand
into a tank on an ox-cart (from a spring), delivered using the
cart, and then poured by hand into the house's tank. It then
had to be boiled before use.

That wasn't in Oxfordshire, of course :-)


Ox-cart! You had an _ox-cart_? We had it delivered in cans on the
back of donkey (and, I may say, it never caused the slightest
tummy-bug). That wasn't in Oxfordshire, either.


I used to draw water from a small foot-deep hole in the ground at

the
foot of a brae. The hole was lined with stones, and the water was
usually a lovely shade of deep Cairngorm. (Coloured like Glen Grant

or
Linkwood if it had been *VERY* wet.)


With one of those dippers -- a bowl on a handle? I remember that
drill from some Youth Hostels in Scotland and Ireland in the
'fifties. I bought a little house in the hills in Wales which at the
time only had that system in the 'sixties. Happy days!

--
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Or are you suggesting that the popularity of tea bags is
due solely to public demand ?


Probably. I put it down to sheer laziness, like the popularity of most
junk foods.

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with the milk delivered by the milkman, measured out from his churn into a
blue and white ringed jug ;-)) which then had a muslin cloth with little
weighted beads, put over it and the jug stood on a marble slab in the cold
pantry.

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be ;-)


No polio epidemics every summer.


Polio? Methinks you have the wrong disease, and in any case, most herds
were TT by the war, and a high proportion of the milk was pasteurised
anyway.

We sometimes got our milk from a churn like that in the 'forties,
especially if we wanted extra. Otherwise it came in bottles with a wide
neck, sealed with a waxed cardboard disc with a punch-in bit in the
middle.

There were ¼ pt, ½ pt, pint and quart bottles available on the
(horsedrawn) cart which served us. The round was sold to a national
company in the 'fifties or 'sixties, but continued to be horsedrawn
until the 'seventies.

Vegetables and fish were also delivered by horsedrawn cart, and bread in
a horsedrawn van. For the war and just afterwards, coal from one firm
was delivered by Foden steam lorry.

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I think he'd be right if that's what he's suggesting. Consider what a
bad reputation they had to start with: people very often used teabags
for the family and loose tea for visitors. There must have been a
considerable advantage to overcome that. The advantage is simplicity
of preparation and cleaning up: I use only leaf tea, but even with
that early example my children have preferred bags ever since they
started making their own tea. The supermarket shelves tell their own
tale, too: people are clearly buying more of the bags even when it's
the same tea -- my own favourite brand, for example, is now
available, if at all, in my local supermarkets _only_ in bag form,
and I have to remember to get it when I'm in London.


Come to Sunny Norwich where we have two specialist tea shops. I believe
both do mail order, if you want their addresses.

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I used to draw water from a small foot-deep hole in the ground at

the
foot of a brae. The hole was lined with stones, and the water was
usually a lovely shade of deep Cairngorm. (Coloured like Glen Grant

or
Linkwood if it had been *VERY* wet.)


With one of those dippers -- a bowl on a handle? I remember that
drill from some Youth Hostels in Scotland and Ireland in the
'fifties. I bought a little house in the hills in Wales which at the
time only had that system in the 'sixties. Happy days!


We used a jug.

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