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Old 12-08-2005, 07:35 PM
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Thought I'd try again, either nobody's got any ideas or it got lost in the
ether!

Hi,

I want to plant some trees that I can keep small (say 10 feet high) in the
centre of my garden.Clay soil at the lower end of the slope.

All advice welcome as I'm very much a novice!

Thanks,

Sue


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Old 12-08-2005, 10:26 PM
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Sue wrote:

I want to plant some trees that I can keep small (say 10 feet high) in the
centre of my garden.Clay soil at the lower end of the slope.


Consider a crab apple and a damson/bullace - one of the older and
tougher varieties in both cases. Flowers in spring, fruit in
autumns (and you can use it!), and prunable more-or-less ad lib.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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"Sue" wrote in message
.. .
Thought I'd try again, either nobody's got any ideas or it got lost in

the
ether!

Hi,

I want to plant some trees that I can keep small (say 10 feet high) in

the
centre of my garden.Clay soil at the lower end of the slope.

All advice welcome as I'm very much a novice!

Thanks,

Sue


Sue,

The information you give is very limited and consequently there is a
difficulty in understanding exactly what your requirements are.

How big is your garden and its location? (e.g. Northern Scotland) Is it
a lawn? How many trees are you going to plant and how close will they
be to each other or the house? Do you have any preferences regarding
colour, flowers, berries, autumn colouring, conifers or any other
consideration.

Also it would be very useful to know how open you are to the elements
because the leaves of some trees will get scorched by direct afternoon
sun and cold winds.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.



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Old 13-08-2005, 07:50 PM
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How big is your garden and its location? (e.g. Northern Scotland) Is it
a lawn? How many trees are you going to plant and how close will they
be to each other or the house? Do you have any preferences regarding
colour, flowers, berries, autumn colouring, conifers or any other
consideration.

Also it would be very useful to know how open you are to the elements
because the leaves of some trees will get scorched by direct afternoon
sun and cold winds.



Thanks for this, told you I'm a novice. Garden is in Billericay, Essex. It's
about 110 feet long by 50 feet wide and the trees will be in the lower half
of the garden (it slopes away from the house). The trees will be in full sun
and it can be a little bit windy there at times. The trees will be planted
in the centre of the garden in a row so that when you look from the house
they are one behind the other. I want to plant a shrub (suggestions welcome)
between each of the trees.

Although this sounds a bit odd I'm doing it because the left hand side of
the back half of the garden is grass and the right hand side is stones.
There is an overgrown bed between the two halves at present, I want to turf
this and have the trees / shrubs growing through the grass to make it easier
to manage and to provide a bit of screening.

I'm probably looking for a maximum of 4 trees and I'd like them to be
decorative, preferably not fruit trees, and, as I said, trees that I can
keep small.

I thought of a winter flowering cherry as that will brighten the garden in
winter.

Thanks again, and thanks to the other people who replied.

Sue


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Old 13-08-2005, 08:36 PM
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I'm probably looking for a maximum of 4 trees and I'd like them to be
decorative, preferably not fruit trees, and, as I said, trees that I can
keep small.


I thought of a winter flowering cherry as that will brighten the garden in
winter.


I'd go for a winter viburnum for one: it is deciduous but has persistent
pink and very fragrant flowers right through the winter, and it doesn't
get very big.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue
Thought I'd try again, either nobody's got any ideas or it got lost in the
ether!

Hi,

I want to plant some trees that I can keep small (say 10 feet high) in the
centre of my garden.Clay soil at the lower end of the slope.

All advice welcome as I'm very much a novice!

Thanks,

Sue
There's a beautiful Rowan called Joseph Rock looks good in all seasons.Also Amelanchier, which has lovely white blossom in Spring followed by black berries and leaves turn scarlet in autumn.Should be grown a lot more and is quite small.
Happy gardening
Lynette
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Old 13-08-2005, 09:22 PM
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In article , Sue Sue@no-
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I'm probably looking for a maximum of 4 trees and I'd like them to be
decorative, preferably not fruit trees, and, as I said, trees that I can
keep small.


Why not fruit trees? Is it because you feel the falling fruit will make
a mess, or that it will attract wasps, or that you feel fruit trees
cannot be decorative?
--
Kay
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Old 13-08-2005, 09:24 PM
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In article , Jaques
d'Alltrades writes
The message
from "Sue" contains these words:

I'm probably looking for a maximum of 4 trees and I'd like them to be
decorative, preferably not fruit trees, and, as I said, trees that I can
keep small.


I thought of a winter flowering cherry as that will brighten the garden in
winter.


I'd go for a winter viburnum for one: it is deciduous but has persistent
pink and very fragrant flowers right through the winter, and it doesn't
get very big.

But it's a bush rather than a tree. If tree shape is important, an
alternative is the winter flowering cherry. Not very big or showy
flowers, but they are there all through the winter - not fragrant,
though.

I think it's hard to beat amelanchier - lovely bronze new leaves, masses
of white flowers, orange berries, autumn colour.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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Old 14-08-2005, 08:59 AM
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I'd go for a winter viburnum for one: it is deciduous but has persistent
pink and very fragrant flowers right through the winter, and it doesn't
get very big.

But it's a bush rather than a tree.


The one in my late mother's garden was most emphatically a small tree -
almost drumstick-shaped. The one in my garden is also a tree, but less
of a standard type.

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"lynette" wrote
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There's a beautiful Rowan called Joseph Rock looks good in all
seasons.Also Amelanchier, which has lovely white blossom in Spring
followed by black berries and leaves turn scarlet in autumn.Should be
grown a lot more and is quite small.
Happy gardening
Lynette


A word of caution - I have a large Rowan in the front garden, around 18ft
tall, currently full of beautiful orange berries, but this causes THREE
problems.

1) The tree is too close to the drive - so everyone who visits ends up with
crushed orange berries stuck to the soles of their shoes - which subsequntly
end up trailed through the house.

2) They are great for the birds - Blackbirds, Mistle and Song Thrush - and
later Redwing and Fieldfare. Sadly most of these also eat purple berries and
if they are frightened they flush noisily from the tree doing one of two
things ...

a) Pebbledash the cars with something that looks (but doeesn't smell) like
Blackcurrant Yogurt

or worse ...

c) Flatten themselves in Kamikaze fashion against my front window.

only three things matter with Rowan trees .....

location, location and location :-)

regards Lol




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"Lol" wrote in message
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"lynette" wrote
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There's a beautiful Rowan called Joseph Rock looks good in all
seasons.Also Amelanchier, which has lovely white blossom in Spring
followed by black berries and leaves turn scarlet in autumn.Should be
grown a lot more and is quite small.
Happy gardening
Lynette


A word of caution - I have a large Rowan in the front garden, around 18ft
tall, currently full of beautiful orange berries, but this causes THREE
problems.

1) The tree is too close to the drive - so everyone who visits ends up
with
crushed orange berries stuck to the soles of their shoes - which
subsequntly
end up trailed through the house.

2) They are great for the birds - Blackbirds, Mistle and Song Thrush - and
later Redwing and Fieldfare. Sadly most of these also eat purple berries
and
if they are frightened they flush noisily from the tree doing one of two
things ...

a) Pebbledash the cars with something that looks (but doeesn't smell) like
Blackcurrant Yogurt

or worse ...

c) Flatten themselves in Kamikaze fashion against my front window.

only three things matter with Rowan trees .....

location, location and location :-)

regards Lol



Warning definitely heeded! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sue


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"Sue" wrote in message
.. .

"Lol" wrote in message
...

"lynette" wrote
-snip-

There's a beautiful Rowan called Joseph Rock looks good in all
seasons.Also Amelanchier, which has lovely white blossom in Spring
followed by black berries and leaves turn scarlet in autumn.Should

be
grown a lot more and is quite small.
Happy gardening
Lynette


A word of caution - I have a large Rowan in the front garden, around

18ft
tall, currently full of beautiful orange berries, but this causes

THREE
problems.

1) The tree is too close to the drive - so everyone who visits ends

up
with
crushed orange berries stuck to the soles of their shoes - which
subsequntly
end up trailed through the house.

2) They are great for the birds - Blackbirds, Mistle and Song

Thrush - and
later Redwing and Fieldfare. Sadly most of these also eat purple

berries
and
if they are frightened they flush noisily from the tree doing one of

two
things ...

a) Pebbledash the cars with something that looks (but doeesn't

smell) like
Blackcurrant Yogurt

or worse ...

c) Flatten themselves in Kamikaze fashion against my front window.

only three things matter with Rowan trees .....

location, location and location :-)

regards Lol



Warning definitely heeded! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sue


Sue,

You want small trees and my favourite small trees a

Acer Japonicum Aureum http://tinyurl.com/dbaoo

Acer Palmatum Atropurpureum http://tinyurl.com/bxo69

Pyrus salicifolia http://tinyurl.com/9kd8x

My favourite shrubs are :

Spirea Bulmalda 'Goldflame' http://tinyurl.com/8qyhu

Potentilla Abbotswood http://tinyurl.com/cttvd

Fuschia Genii http://tinyurl.com/exrjm
(A most disappointing photo. The flower is accurate but the foliage
should be a really pleasing yellow).

Good luck.

Regards,
Emrys Davies



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"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
"Sue" wrote in message
.. .

"Lol" wrote in message
...

"lynette" wrote
-snip-

There's a beautiful Rowan called Joseph Rock looks good in all
seasons.Also Amelanchier, which has lovely white blossom in

Spring
followed by black berries and leaves turn scarlet in

autumn.Should
be
grown a lot more and is quite small.
Happy gardening
Lynette

A word of caution - I have a large Rowan in the front garden,

around
18ft
tall, currently full of beautiful orange berries, but this causes

THREE
problems.

1) The tree is too close to the drive - so everyone who visits

ends
up
with
crushed orange berries stuck to the soles of their shoes - which
subsequntly
end up trailed through the house.

2) They are great for the birds - Blackbirds, Mistle and Song

Thrush - and
later Redwing and Fieldfare. Sadly most of these also eat purple

berries
and
if they are frightened they flush noisily from the tree doing one

of
two
things ...

a) Pebbledash the cars with something that looks (but doeesn't

smell) like
Blackcurrant Yogurt

or worse ...

c) Flatten themselves in Kamikaze fashion against my front window.

only three things matter with Rowan trees .....

location, location and location :-)

regards Lol



Warning definitely heeded! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sue


Sue,

You want small trees and my favourite small trees a

Acer Japonicum Aureum http://tinyurl.com/dbaoo

Acer Palmatum Atropurpureum http://tinyurl.com/bxo69

Pyrus salicifolia http://tinyurl.com/9kd8x

My favourite shrubs are :

Spirea Bulmalda 'Goldflame' http://tinyurl.com/8qyhu

Potentilla Abbotswood http://tinyurl.com/cttvd

Fuschia Genii http://tinyurl.com/exrjm
(A most disappointing photo. The flower is accurate but the foliage
should be a really pleasing yellow).

Good luck.

Regards,
Emrys Davies


Sue,


I should have said that the Fuschia Genii is frost hardy.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.


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In article , Lol
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"lynette" wrote
-snip-

There's a beautiful Rowan called Joseph Rock looks good in all
seasons.Also Amelanchier, which has lovely white blossom in Spring
followed by black berries and leaves turn scarlet in autumn.Should be
grown a lot more and is quite small.
Happy gardening
Lynette


A word of caution - I have a large Rowan in the front garden, around 18ft
tall, currently full of beautiful orange berries, but this causes THREE
problems.

1) The tree is too close to the drive - so everyone who visits ends up with
crushed orange berries stuck to the soles of their shoes - which subsequntly
end up trailed through the house.

2) They are great for the birds - Blackbirds, Mistle and Song Thrush - and
later Redwing and Fieldfare. Sadly most of these also eat purple berries and
if they are frightened they flush noisily from the tree doing one of two
things ...

a) Pebbledash the cars with something that looks (but doeesn't smell) like
Blackcurrant Yogurt

or worse ...

c) Flatten themselves in Kamikaze fashion against my front window.

only three things matter with Rowan trees .....

location, location and location :-)

Joseph Rock is slower growing and has yellow berries which are less
favoured by the birds. There are also white and pink berried species of
rowan.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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Thanks everyone for your suggestions, all saved for when the ground has been
cleared and the turf laid!

Sue


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