Alan Holmes wrote:
"martin" wrote in message ... On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 20:53:26 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: The message from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: [...] that there is a single predominant cycle. Quite. I favour Velocette, but others like Triumph... I've always had Raleigh. They always seemed to get your coat wet when going through puddles, though. -- Mike. |
This will be my last post to this, er, gentleman on this topic. In article , "michael adams" writes: | | Who's getting anything mangled Mr MacLaren ? You are. Repeatedly. | As has already been pointed out to you more than once, this | is what Professor Saunders is quoted as saying on the BBC | Website. | | Nothing to do with the "Guardian" at all, Mr MacLaren. Ah. Well, if you start off long postings with abuse, don't expect people to read them. I failed to notice you had introduced a new reference. If I had, I could have pointed out that you had made a new mistake. | It is a natural cycle of a period of about 50 or 60 years," Professor | Saunders told the BBC News website. The previous paragraph stated what 'it' is: The forecast spate of hurricanes in 2005 is part of a multi-decadal cycle of fluctuating sea temperatures. Yes, there are known, relatively stable cycles of fluctuating sea temperatures, just as there is one of solar activity. It is extremely unclear (nay, doubtful) that the stability of the cycles is more than a temporary phenomenon, but something that repeats more than once (even if with somewhat irregular timing) can fairly be called a cycle. Do a Web search on 'el Nino' for a the best known and most important of these. I remain unconvinced about a 60 year cycle, but I have not looked into that matter recently and don't know if there is any evidence for it (there used not to be). But it isn't implausible. This, however, has next to nothing to do with your original claim, which was referring to European droughts and heatwaves. There is very good evidence that they do NOT follow any regular cycle, and adequate data going back centuries. There are known, agreed meteorological reasons why relatively simple phenomena in the Carribean do not cause simple phenomena in Europe. Saunders will know all that, which is why he responded differently to the different questions from the Guardian and BBC. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... snip Saunders will know all that, which is why he responded differently to the different questions from the Guardian and BBC. The work of the group led by Prof Saunders is 'showcased' (apologies if that is not the correct word) at http://forecast.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/ which includes a 'Publications' page of links to refereed papers and conference papers which, I suggest, might go some way to putting some flesh on the necessarily very bare bones of the BBC article, for those who are interested. |
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:23:23 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
Variously it was written: I could also add that the observations from previous centuries are quite good enough in quality to debunk the theory that there is a single predominant cycle. Quite. I favour Velocette, but others like Triumph... I read on teletext today that some ladies are cycling around england on Harley-Davidson bikes. I wasn't aware that they made bicycles! I bet they have some thised thighs if they pedal them. I wasn't aware that they made bikes ! ( motorised armchairs, more like) mallards Bring back my trusty Comet and Rapide ,, I wish,,,,sigh,,, Ah. Now you're talking. I hanker. (Though my Shadow was all packed with Lightning internals...) Great stuff ! My Rapide had a Shadow inside, but outside I decided not to add a Shadow 'clock', nor badges, cos it might have attracted unwelcome 'admiration', swoon |
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(WaltA) wrote: PS Those ladies must have strong legs then, not to mention the thighs and,,, ... predictable cycles? :-) ! predictable ? You are the Pope and I claim my 5quid :) |
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:29:17 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
AFAICR there were no differences between the Shadow's internals and the Rapide's. choke of carb for one. ummm, mist of time,, was it inch&1/8 for R and inch&1/4 for S ( or perhaps it was inch&1/4 vs. inch&1/2 ?) Compression ratio as well ( or was that just a progression of time thing ? After all, I had just upgraded from an HRD. (as in HRD not HRD-Vincent) Hmmm, I may think of more, like wheel sizes varied quite a bit from time to time and model to model ,,,, Are 19" tyres still available I wonder, they were difficult to get hold of at one time. (Dammit, my Vincent book is still in store...) All mine also, as are a lot of my old braincells :-( Rapide was billed as a 'tourer' and the Shadow as a 'sports model'. Exactly, I ref. hon. gent. to my post earlier about mudguards. gert heavy steel things with skirts on the R. |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:28:10 +0200, martin wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:32:18 GMT, (WaltA) wrote: martin wrote: (WaltA) wrote: PS Those ladies must have strong legs then, not to mention the thighs and,,, ... predictable cycles? :-) ! predictable ? You are the Pope and I claim my 5quid :) Sorry to disappoint, but we only have papal bull left at this time of year. It's all smoke ;-) (and maybe some mirrors as well) If we thought hard enough we should be able to work in a unicycle here somewhere ? |
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from "michael adams" contains these words: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "michael adams" contains these words: Oh dear! The depths some people are prepared to sink to, in order to prevent themselves from looking total idiots. I think we've all got your drift. snipped deeply hurtful remarks and cutting asides about whistles, sharks, lifebelts etc etc etc Janet. .... I very much doubt that, somehow. You appear to be totally lacking in any sense of humour whatsoever. /snip/ Now that's funny, coming from you. -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from (WaltA) contains these words: On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:29:17 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: AFAICR there were no differences between the Shadow's internals and the Rapide's. choke of carb for one. ummm, mist of time,, was it inch&1/8 for R and inch&1/4 for S ( or perhaps it was inch&1/4 vs. inch&1/2 ?) Dunno - the Shadow/Lightning had GPs you could crawl down. Compression ratio as well ( or was that just a progression of time thing ? After all, I had just upgraded from an HRD. (as in HRD not HRD-Vincent) Hmmm, I may think of more, like wheel sizes varied quite a bit from time to time and model to model ,,,, Are 19" tyres still available I wonder, they were difficult to get hold of at one time. Yes. The series D Shadow had a 2·25" × 20" front IIRC (Dammit, my Vincent book is still in store...) All mine also, as are a lot of my old braincells :-( Rapide was billed as a 'tourer' and the Shadow as a 'sports model'. Exactly, I ref. hon. gent. to my post earlier about mudguards. gert heavy steel things with skirts on the R. Well, the Black Prince had those. In fact, now you come to mention it, mine was originally one of those enclosed thingies, later Shadowised with ally guards, etc, then stuffed full of goodies. -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , "Mike Lyle" writes: Nick can explain the stats better than I, and I wish dear old Franz were still with us to describe the physics, but I think it's essentially correct to say it's a matter of what the layman would call "averaging". A localised concentration does nothing to detract from the principle applied globally; and, very interestingly, according to catastrophe theory, may even appear to produce a transitory effect _contrary_ to what a global calculation would predict. As demonstrated by the technology of paraffin refrigerators. Even though I Googled for it I can't find how a paraffin refrigerator works. Anyone? -- Travis in Shoreline Washington |
Travis wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote: In article , "Mike Lyle" writes: Nick can explain the stats better than I, and I wish dear old Franz were still with us to describe the physics, but I think it's essentially correct to say it's a matter of what the layman would call "averaging". A localised concentration does nothing to detract from the principle applied globally; and, very interestingly, according to catastrophe theory, may even appear to produce a transitory effect _contrary_ to what a global calculation would predict. As demonstrated by the technology of paraffin refrigerators. Even though I Googled for it I can't find how a paraffin refrigerator works. Anyone? Same as a gas one. -- Mike. |
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:33:51 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
snip nostalgia for brevity, all noted. Well, the Black Prince had those. In fact, now you come to mention it, mine was originally one of those enclosed thingies, I had a feeling that you might be talking about the later D series. Ah yes, the one in skirts :-)) As you say, "originally", but like you most real riders soon undressed her. and that transparent plastic thing in front meant you didn't get flys & bees in yer beard like what real riders were supposed to have , heheee. later Shadowised with ally guards, Yep, I mentioned those as well in that post I managed to misfire ! (and now lost to posterity) There was also a fancy stainless set as well wasn't there? Or were they other supplier add-ons ? Tut, how my brain doth fade ! My first were series B - HRD, cos they were cheap s/h ( nobody wanted them ! can you imagine ha ! ) then later series C Vincent-HRDs Oh drool. You'll have me weeping into my beer soon, stoppit :-) Enough of this, go look at my tree bark pictures for your pennance :) |
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martin wrote: On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:57:32 +0100, "Mike Lyle" wrote: Travis wrote: Even though I Googled for it I can't find how a paraffin refrigerator works. Anyone? Same as a gas one. and for those who don't know ... http://www.nh3tech.org/absorption.html Ye gods! That explains why I was about to give the answer to how one works: rather badly. I had never looked up the physics before, but that isn't the sort of technology that is ideal for the conditions we used them in. Not field repairable? When transport from the nearest factory takes several weeks? Not good news. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Travis wrote: Nick Maclaren wrote: In article , "Mike Lyle" writes: Nick can explain the stats better than I, and I wish dear old Franz were still with us to describe the physics, but I think it's essentially correct to say it's a matter of what the layman would call "averaging". A localised concentration does nothing to detract from the principle applied globally; and, very interestingly, according to catastrophe theory, may even appear to produce a transitory effect _contrary_ to what a global calculation would predict. As demonstrated by the technology of paraffin refrigerators. Even though I Googled for it I can't find how a paraffin refrigerator works. Anyone? Same as a gas one. Since paraffin is a soild (isn't it) and gas is a gas I don't get it. -- Travis in Shoreline Washington |
In article DGxOe.10628$g47.7290@trnddc07,
Travis wrote: Since paraffin is a soild (isn't it) and gas is a gas I don't get it. Not at any civilised temperature, it isn't. It is a liquid. You are thinking of paraffin wax. Also don't confuse (liquid) paraffin with liquid paraffin :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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from "Travis" contains these words: Even though I Googled for it I can't find how a paraffin refrigerator works. Anyone? Thermosyphon, like an Electrolux. They do gas ones, electric ones and someone makes a paraffin one, probably Electrolux. There are also gas/electric ones on the market, mainly for caravanners. -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from martin contains these words: On the web there is a report about somebody who is no more after he refilled a paraffin refrigerator with petrol. On the web there is a report of someone else he is no more after fitting his car with a JATO bottle and setting it off on a long, straight piece of road. But it's fiction. Though amusing. -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from "Travis" contains these words: Even though I Googled for it I can't find how a paraffin refrigerator works. Anyone? Same as a gas one. Since paraffin is a soild (isn't it) and gas is a gas I don't get it. 'Paraffin' is a group of hydrocabons which includes solids through to gases. The paraffin referred to is somewhere in the middle of the group and is called kerosene in Transpondia. -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article DGxOe.10628$g47.7290@trnddc07, Travis wrote: Since paraffin is a soild (isn't it) and gas is a gas I don't get it. Not at any civilised temperature, it isn't. It is a liquid. You are thinking of paraffin wax. Also don't confuse (liquid) paraffin with liquid paraffin :-) So you mean what we call kerosene? -- Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington USDA Zone 8 Sunset Zone 5 |
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message DGxOe.10628$g47.7290@trnddc07 from "Travis" contains these words: Even though I Googled for it I can't find how a paraffin refrigerator works. Anyone? Same as a gas one. Since paraffin is a soild (isn't it) and gas is a gas I don't get it. 'Paraffin' is a group of hydrocabons which includes solids through to gases. The paraffin referred to is somewhere in the middle of the group and is called kerosene in Transpondia. Transpondia? When I Google that word I find something about bringing a visitor or fiance to the UK. This is getting really weird. -- Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington USDA Zone 8 Sunset Zone 5 |
In article %VAOe.12345$g47.9087@trnddc07, "Travis" writes: | Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: | | 'Paraffin' is a group of hydrocabons which includes solids through | to gases. The paraffin referred to is somewhere in the middle of | the group and is called kerosene in Transpondia. Yup. | Transpondia? When I Google that word I find something about bringing a | visitor or fiance to the UK. It has been used to refer to our ex-colonies (especially the rebellious ones) in north America for some time - on UK newsgroups. | This is getting really weird. Nah. Try uk.rec.sheds. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
In article , Jaques d'Alltrades writes: | The message | from martin contains these words: | | On the web there is a report about somebody who is no more after he | refilled a paraffin refrigerator with petrol. | | On the web there is a report of someone else he is no more after fitting | his car with a JATO bottle and setting it off on a long, straight piece | of road. | | But it's fiction. | | Though amusing. Yes. The stories about people blowing themselves up by putting petrol into paraffin equipment are not fiction, though. Not at all. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , martin writes: | On 23 Aug 2005 08:46:07 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote: | | | This is getting really weird. | | Nah. Try uk.rec.sheds. | | Pervert! :-) Now, THAT'S unfair! I must stand up for the sheddies here. They aren't perverted, but are such independent thinkers that they have little direct contact with the real world[*] or even uk.rec.gardening. [*] As many authors have pointed out, the inside of ancient and well-cluttered storage units, such as sheds and wardrobes, tends to attach itself to other universes. Nobody knows why. This is why things disappear and strange things appear in such units, and accounts for the postings on uk.rec.sheds. And sometimes, posters drift in and out too.... I was here at the dawn of urs and voted for it, too. Then, RL got heck tick. But I like it here, so I'll waft across now and then. :) Ali |
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The message from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: [*] As many authors have pointed out, the inside of ancient and well-cluttered storage units, such as sheds and wardrobes, tends to attach itself to other universes. Nobody knows why. This is why things disappear and strange things appear in such units, and accounts for the postings on uk.rec.sheds. It also explains why the transitional imago stage between the embyryonic paperclip and the adult coathanger is never seen - it occurs in another fold. Ontological evidence suggests the "missing" stage looks like a teaspoon, which accounts for where all the teaspoons go. No, we already know where teaspoons go. They migrate to cupboards belonging to people like me, who don't take sugar in their tea. Richard |
On 23 Aug 2005 09:38:48 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
In article , martin writes: | On 23 Aug 2005 08:46:07 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote: | | This is getting really weird. | Nah. Try uk.rec.sheds. | Pervert! :-) Now, THAT'S unfair! I must stand up for the sheddies here. Here ? Amongst us, now ? shed Can the minister explain how this was allowed to happen, where were our border patrols? Inside some huts drinking tea perhaps ? Consuming wild mushrooms gathered from their gardens and compost heaps ? What does the minister propose to do to rectify this situation. I propose that he should immediately begin a program of super-shed building to contain these miscreants. In light of this dreadful dereliction of duty the minister should consider his position ! They aren't perverted, but are such independent thinkers that they have little direct contact with the real world[*] or even uk.rec.gardening. [*] As many authors have pointed out, the inside of ancient and well-cluttered storage units, such as sheds and wardrobes, tends to attach itself to other universes. Nobody knows why. Mass, that is why. An excess of mass. Eventually so much mass accumulates that a black hole is formed and the shed collapses in upon itself. If the last item added was not aimed directly into the centre, but entered with some angular momentum, then a rotating black hole will be formed which will then reappear (*) at any time (past or future) at any place in any universe. (*) as a white hole after losing some mass by Hawking radiation. Some poor souls have even tried to use this as a worm-hole to other places and times by incorporating an extra door in the shed and attempting to traverse the shed-hole within its Schwarzschild radius. This inevitably ends in tears. /shed This is why things disappear and strange things appear in such units, and accounts for the postings on uk.rec.sheds. |
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:49:42 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
Oh drool. You'll have me weeping into my beer soon, stoppit :-) I also had an AJS 990 cc (?) Vee-twin side-valve for a while. BSA Bantam Bushman 125cc(??) 1947 Hilman Minx sidevalve (capacity unremembered!) delete Note to self - dont tell him about the Triumph Cub. /delete |
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:47:26 GMT, WaltA wrote:
On 23 Aug 2005 09:38:48 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote: In article , martin writes: | On 23 Aug 2005 08:46:07 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote: | | This is getting really weird. | Nah. Try uk.rec.sheds. | Pervert! :-) Now, THAT'S unfair! I must stand up for the sheddies here. Here ? Amongst us, now ? shed Can the minister explain how this was allowed to happen, where were our border patrols? Inside some huts drinking tea perhaps ? Consuming wild mushrooms gathered from their gardens and compost heaps ? What does the minister propose to do to rectify this situation. I propose that he should immediately begin a program of super-shed building to contain these miscreants. The Miscreants are in uk.misc, over there -- unless somebody crossposts this thread over there as well. -- Paul Clark you.missed - umist to reply Where there's hope there's disappointment. -- Point Counter Point, Aldous Huxley |
"WaltA" wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:49:42 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: Oh drool. You'll have me weeping into my beer soon, stoppit :-) I also had an AJS 990 cc (?) Vee-twin side-valve for a while. BSA Bantam Bushman 125cc(??) 1947 Hilman Minx sidevalve (capacity unremembered!) delete Note to self - dont tell him about the Triumph Cub. /delete Triumph Cub? Potent little 200cc jobby? My mate's used to leave my Lambretta 150LI standing :-(( and I mean standing as if I hadn't even started the engine :-(( I did like the Triumph 21, the 350?cc bike. Saw one the other day :-)) |
On 23 Aug 2005 11:53:08 +0100, Egbert Egret
wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:47:26 GMT, WaltA wrote: On 23 Aug 2005 09:38:48 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote: In article , martin writes: | On 23 Aug 2005 08:46:07 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote: | | This is getting really weird. | Nah. Try uk.rec.sheds. | Pervert! :-) Now, THAT'S unfair! I must stand up for the sheddies here. Here ? Amongst us, now ? shed Can the minister explain how this was allowed to happen, where were our border patrols? Inside some huts drinking tea perhaps ? Consuming wild mushrooms gathered from their gardens and compost heaps ? What does the minister propose to do to rectify this situation. I propose that he should immediately begin a program of super-shed building to contain these miscreants. The Miscreants are in uk.misc, over there -- unless somebody crossposts this thread over there as well. Oh no ! Anything but uk.misc, said Brer Rabbit jumping into the briar patch Psst, that's where his white-rabbit hole is, with exits into multiverses. |
In message , Ali Hopkins
writes "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , martin writes: | On 23 Aug 2005 08:46:07 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote: | | | This is getting really weird. | | Nah. Try uk.rec.sheds. | | Pervert! :-) Now, THAT'S unfair! I must stand up for the sheddies here. They aren't perverted, but are such independent thinkers that they have little direct contact with the real world[*] or even uk.rec.gardening. [*] As many authors have pointed out, the inside of ancient and well-cluttered storage units, such as sheds and wardrobes, tends to attach itself to other universes. Nobody knows why. This is why things disappear and strange things appear in such units, and accounts for the postings on uk.rec.sheds. And sometimes, posters drift in and out too.... I was here at the dawn of urs and voted for it, too. Then, RL got heck tick. But I like it here, so I'll waft across now and then. :) Strange, the people you run into in the unlikeliest places. -- Bernard Peek In search of cognoscenti, again |
Oh drool. You'll have me weeping into my beer soon, stoppit :-)
I also had an AJS 990 cc (?) Vee-twin side-valve for a while. BSA Bantam Bushman 125cc(??) 1947 Hilman Minx sidevalve (capacity unremembered!) delete Note to self - dont tell him about the Triumph Cub. /delete Triumph Cub? Potent little 200cc jobby? 175 ? 200? cant remember, something like that My mate's used to leave my Lambretta Lambretta !!!! Well but of course, nuff said :-)) Sry, coud'na resist :) I did like the Triumph 21, the 350?cc bike. Saw one the other day :-)) The cub was my first and last Triumph. I got a Comet after that. |
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, WaltA typed this :
Some poor souls have even tried to use this as a worm-hole to other places and times by incorporating an extra door in the shed and attempting to traverse the shed-hole within its Schwarzschild radius. This inevitably ends in tears. What sort of tears - those in the fabric of Space/Time or Boo-hoo? Or both? -- Roger Hunt |
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