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Old 23-10-2005, 08:22 PM
Allen Caius
 
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I have one hop bine that does very well and one that doesn't. I would
like to increase my stock by propagating from the better bine.

Question:
Does anyone know which method of propagation works best for hops, please?

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Old 23-10-2005, 09:39 PM
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Allen Caius wrote:

Does anyone know which method of propagation works best for hops, please?


Root cuttings are the usual way; they take off at the drop of a hat.


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Old 23-10-2005, 09:53 PM
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Allen Caius wrote:
I have one hop bine that does very well and one that doesn't. I

would
like to increase my stock by propagating from the better bine.

Question:
Does anyone know which method of propagation works best for hops,
please?


They are propagated from root cuttings about (I think).a foot long.
There are separate male and female plants. You need, as far as I
remember, one male plant for every half-dozen or ten females. The
female is the one producing the "cones": this sounds to me like the
one you refer to as doing "very well". If you're a connoisseur, you
may find that the variety you have doesn't give you the beer flavour
you hoped for: there are several varieties, maybe as different as the
separate varieties of apple, but you should be all right if you're
like us peasants.

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Mike.


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Old 23-10-2005, 10:26 PM
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They are propagated from root cuttings about (I think).a foot long.
There are separate male and female plants.



Both plants are female. The one that fares poorly has a tightly knotted
ball of 'ingrowing' roots that never seem to spread like the better one.
I don't know the variety but judging from the bitterness they impart to
the beer they are probably one of the copper 'bittering' style hops
rather than aroma hops.

Root cuttings it shall be, thanks to you both for the replies.

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Allen
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Old 23-10-2005, 11:30 PM
Janet Baraclough
 
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Root cuttings it shall be, thanks to you both for the replies.


I only grow golden hop, but it's easily propagated from new young
shoots as they poke through the soil.

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Old 24-10-2005, 09:22 AM
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They are propagated from root cuttings about (I think).a foot long.
There are separate male and female plants.



Both plants are female. The one that fares poorly has a tightly knotted
ball of 'ingrowing' roots that never seem to spread like the better one.
I don't know the variety but judging from the bitterness they impart to
the beer they are probably one of the copper 'bittering' style hops
rather than aroma hops.

Root cuttings it shall be, thanks to you both for the replies.

--
Cheers,

Allen


Of the one fairing poorly....I would dig up and sort out the roots and
re-plant....almost impossible to kill so little chance of losing and you
might improve....H


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Mike Lyle
 
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Root cuttings it shall be, thanks to you both for the replies.



Of the one fairing poorly....I would dig up and sort out the roots

and
re-plant....almost impossible to kill so little chance of losing

and
you might improve....H


And when you've got more shoots than you need, Elizabeth David has a
recipe somewhere for hop-shoot risotto. I've never tried it, but she
was enthusiastic.

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Old 24-10-2005, 01:10 PM
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Root cuttings it shall be, thanks to you both for the replies.



Of the one fairing poorly....I would dig up and sort out the roots

and
re-plant....almost impossible to kill so little chance of losing

and
you might improve....H


And when you've got more shoots than you need, Elizabeth David has a
recipe somewhere for hop-shoot risotto. I've never tried it, but she
was enthusiastic.

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Mike.

and.....you just aint a kidding Mike.....now have an annual chore of
cleaning them out.....H



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Old 25-10-2005, 09:59 AM
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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Allen Caius wrote:
I have one hop bine that does very well and one that doesn't. I

would
like to increase my stock by propagating from the better bine.

Question:
Does anyone know which method of propagation works best for hops,
please?


They are propagated from root cuttings about (I think).a foot long.
There are separate male and female plants. You need, as far as I
remember, one male plant for every half-dozen or ten females.


Do you actually want to pollinate the females for beer making ?

Wouldn't flower production be terminated early as soon as some seed was set
?

I have a female golden hop that makes lovely cones all by itself - I doubt
it'd make very good beer though ....


The
female is the one producing the "cones": this sounds to me like the
one you refer to as doing "very well". If you're a connoisseur, you
may find that the variety you have doesn't give you the beer flavour
you hoped for: there are several varieties, maybe as different as the
separate varieties of apple, but you should be all right if you're
like us peasants.

--
Mike.




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Old 25-10-2005, 10:52 AM
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Allen Caius wrote:
I have one hop bine that does very well and one that doesn't. I

would
like to increase my stock by propagating from the better bine.


, but you should be all right if you're
like us peasants.

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Mike.

Some peasant?????????H







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Old 25-10-2005, 01:11 PM
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Allen Caius wrote:
I have one hop bine that does very well and one that doesn't. I
would
like to increase my stock by propagating from the better bine.


, but you should be all right if you're
like us peasants.

--
Mike.

Some peasant?????????H

*BANG!*

Opps! Sorry! - - - - *PEASANT*.

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Allen Caius
 
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They are propagated from root cuttings about (I think).a foot long.
There are separate male and female plants. You need, as far as I
remember, one male plant for every half-dozen or ten females.


Do you actually want to pollinate the females for beer making ?



The alpha acid content of the flower is greater when unpollinated and
thus gives greater bittering per ounce/gramme

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Cheers,

Allen
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