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'Roundup' - risk of collateral damage?
Hi all. New boy here.
Last summer, my roses (Rosa Rogosa and Gloire de Dijon), as well as my Pyracantha were totally engulfed in bindweed. It wrapped itself tightly around the stems; I'd been cutting the stuff away, but left it for a month or so and the next time I looked all I could see was the bindweed. Q: Is is possible to apply "Roundup" weed killer (B&Q) to the bindweed with zero danger to the roses and Pyracantha in view of their close proximity? I'm a complete novice, but assume that the bindweed roots might be wrapped around those of the roses and Pyracantha. The last thing I want to risk is killing the roses and Pyracantha as they've been grown as security plants and have taken 3 years to get this far. Is it at all feasible to apply the Roundup to a bindweed leaf as the stuff emerges from the ground and it just surgically 'take out' the the weed only? Stormin' |
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Hi storming
To answer your question.. Firstly if you pull up the bindweed root, it should look like a long creamy\whitish fairly flexible root, try and get as mich of it out as possible, sadly if you pull it out and a bit breaks of it will come back again. Secondly, sure you could use round up but if it is wrapped around your plants I would advise not useing roundup especially if you are using a sprayer. There is a stick of weedkiller you can get called touchweeder, which is waxy applicator and sure it is labourious applying the stuff but it does the job and there is no risk to to your roses and pyracantha. Hope this helps ya out |
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'Roundup' - risk of collateral damage?
Simply paint the liquid roundup not spray. I occassionally spray roundup
around woody stems of various plants to get rid of pernicious weeds and have had no problems - just dont wave the spray wand about, spara larger droplets and don't do it if there is a breath of wind. "insanite" wrote in message ... Hi storming To answer your question.. Firstly if you pull up the bindweed root, it should look like a long creamy\whitish fairly flexible root, try and get as mich of it out as possible, sadly if you pull it out and a bit breaks of it will come back again. Secondly, sure you could use round up but if it is wrapped around your plants I would advise not useing roundup especially if you are using a sprayer. There is a stick of weedkiller you can get called touchweeder, which is waxy applicator and sure it is labourious applying the stuff but it does the job and there is no risk to to your roses and pyracantha. Hope this helps ya out -- insanite |
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'Roundup' - risk of collateral damage?
I am clearing an area of my garden over the past few weekends and I'm
digging as much of the root out as I can find. Bindweed has a long white brittle root system, so you have to dig carefully using a trowel. (The intention is to weaken the plant, however it may be a fools errant as the roots can go down 20 feet). Unlucky for me the neighbours keep growing a new crop so I'm destined to struggle with this weed. I keep niggling it with a hoe its not really a problem keeping this, and other weeds down. If you search google groups for Judith Lea's method, which is basically to stuff as much of the bindweed into the plastic bags (the small ones for sandwiches) as you can, the more the better, slosh a little roundup (diluted) into the bag, seal with a twist and leave it alone. The stuff will work its way though the foliage and right through to the roots.... |
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'Roundup' - risk of collateral damage?
"insanite" wrote Firstly if you pull up the bindweed root, it should look like a long creamy\whitish fairly flexible root, try and get as mich of it out as possible, sadly if you pull it out and a bit breaks of it will come back again. Secondly, sure you could use round up but if it is wrapped around your plants I would advise not useing roundup especially if you are using a sprayer. snip I think Stormin' would be on a hiding to nothing trying to pull out roots of bindweed - they're so invasive and brittle that it's just about impossible to dig them all out completely. Glyphosate does the trick though. I managed last year to get rid of some bindweed in a similar situation among shrubs and perennials by painting Roundup onto the young shoots with an old 1'' paintbrush. Where the weed is right in among other roots or stems one way to do this is to unwind the pieces you can reach and retrain them outwards/upwards onto a cane or stake. Leave a short while to grow until it's clear of its neighbours, then you can treat safely without risking your prize specimens. Good luck! -- Sue |
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Yep, last time I tried pulling the bindweed up I got a sore back, and none of it came out in one piece. It does seem to break up. OK, so, as I understand it, as long as the point and method of application is such that you don't get any of the Roundup on anything else above ground, it's effects will be limited to the bindweed even if the bindweed is emerging from the ground right next to the good guys. Thanks all Stormin' |
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'Roundup' - risk of collateral damage?
In article , Smashing Pumpkin
writes If you search google groups for Judith Lea's method, which is basically to stuff as much of the bindweed into the plastic bags (the small ones for sandwiches) as you can, the more the better, slosh a little roundup (diluted) into the bag, seal with a twist and leave it alone. The stuff will work its way though the foliage and right through to the roots.... I didn't know I was famous! If you have a lot of bindweed, it is much easier to push a stick, i.e. those used for runner beans, into the soil, and the bindweed will creep up all over it. Simply pull the stick out of the ground and you will be left with a large ball of bindweed, now stick that into the bag and continue with the instructions above. -- Judith Lea |
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'Roundup' - risk of collateral damage?
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from "Sue" contains these words: I think Stormin' would be on a hiding to nothing trying to pull out roots of bindweed - they're so invasive and brittle that it's just about impossible to dig them all out completely. Glyphosate does the trick though. I managed last year to get rid of some bindweed in a similar situation among shrubs and perennials by painting Roundup onto the young shoots with an old 1'' paintbrush. Where the weed is right in among other roots or stems one way to do this is to unwind the pieces you can reach and retrain them outwards/upwards onto a cane or stake. Leave a short while to grow until it's clear of its neighbours, then you can treat safely without risking your prize specimens. Good luck! I got rid of a colony of bindweed just by pulling out the new shoots as they appeared. At the end of the first year they were getting scrawny, and at the end of the second year they'd given up. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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'Roundup' - risk of collateral damage?
P Williamson wrote:
Simply paint the liquid roundup not spray. I occassionally spray roundup around woody stems of various plants to get rid of pernicious weeds and have had no problems - just dont wave the spray wand about, spara larger droplets and don't do it if there is a breath of wind. Glyphosate only kills plants where it touches green leaves or shoots. It pretty much bounces off most woody stems and IME waxy holly seedlings (but don't rely on it). "insanite" wrote in message ... Hi storming To answer your question.. Firstly if you pull up the bindweed root, it should look like a long creamy\whitish fairly flexible root, try and get as mich of it out as possible, sadly if you pull it out and a bit breaks of it will come back again. Which is why hitting it regularly with glyphosate (or anything else in the weedkilling line you happen to be using) is needed combined with a digging campaign to keep it from ever having any good leaves in the sun. Just be sure to use a brush and a steady hand and be prepared to chop off any unfortunate bits of plant you happen to hit by accident. It is a war of attrition. Bindweed (and for that matter ground elder) can store a heck of a lot of energy in those thick white creamy roots. Ground elder is less of a challenge as it is very shallow rooted. Secondly, sure you could use round up but if it is wrapped around your plants I would advise not useing roundup especially if you are using a sprayer. Putting a few bamboo canes to train the bindweed up will help. But really nothing beats zapping each shoot as it comes up. Never let it see the sun unmolested! Regards, Martin Brown |
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'Roundup' - risk of collateral damage?
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:26:27 +0000, P Williamson wrote
(in message ): Simply paint the liquid roundup not spray. I occassionally spray roundup around woody stems of various plants to get rid of pernicious weeds and have had no problems - just dont wave the spray wand about, spara larger droplets and don't do it if there is a breath of wind. You need to be killing the bindweed on a continual basis and all other things being equal, in theory you can win the war if you stop the plant from getting enough top growth to sustain the roots. The difficulty I have with doing this is that it is necessary to keep up the treatment and not relent, not stop for a while, etc- just keep on attacking it to stop it thriving, not even a little bit of thriving!- it, for as long as it takes. But there is more than one way to attack it. What you could do in addition to spraying/painting with glyphosphate, and after you'd had made some good progress with that, would be to to use heavy black polythene sheeting to cover the ground for some distance around this location, allowing only the roses through. You could tape it carefully with some sort of weatherproof tape around the rose stems so that other than your roses, nothing gets through. The right kind of polythene allows water through (your roses wouldn't survive otherwise) and blocks light. The bindweed cannot get through the opaque polythene and so it gets no light. With no light it cannot live indefinitely- its chemical processing depends on light reaching the leaves- so after a while (could be a couple of years) it will give up, at least in that location. Various places in the UK stock polythene sheeting for this purpose. -- VX (remove alcohol for email) |
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