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Old 27-03-2003, 09:08 PM
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I've a spanish broom that's about 5ft tall and about as wide that I'm a bit
worried about.
One of its three main branches became a bit top heavy toward the end of last
year and I've had to stake it for support but I was a bit late in doing that
and the whole plant is now leaning over to one side a bit.
What I'd like to do is replant it (in the same spot) so that it's more
upright and am worried that now is the wrong time as it's just starting to
show it's buds for this years first bloom and the scent is georgeous as well
as the stunning display of bright yellow pea-like flowers.
Does anyone know when the best time would be to re-plant my spanish broom as
I only got it last year and don't want to loose it!
L


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Old 28-03-2003, 11:08 PM
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I've a spanish broom that's about 5ft tall and about as wide that I'm a bit
worried about.
One of its three main branches became a bit top heavy toward the end of last
year and I've had to stake it for support but I was a bit late in doing that
and the whole plant is now leaning over to one side a bit.
What I'd like to do is replant it (in the same spot) so that it's more
upright and am worried that now is the wrong time as it's just starting to
show it's buds for this years first bloom and the scent is georgeous as well
as the stunning display of bright yellow pea-like flowers.
Does anyone know when the best time would be to re-plant my spanish broom as
I only got it last year and don't want to loose it!


You almost certainly will kill it if you try to replant it. Brooms
have a long taproot and not much else, which is why they so often keel
over at an angle, and are not longlived plants.They don't transplant
well after they have been planted out and become established.

Make sure that the main stem leaning over, has not worn a hole in the
soil around it; if it has, try ramming some earth down the sides (hard)
and restake it.

Janet.


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On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:09:37 GMT, "Zizz"
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I've a spanish broom that's about 5ft tall and about as wide that I'm a bit
worried about.
One of its three main branches became a bit top heavy toward the end of last
year and I've had to stake it for support but I was a bit late in doing that
and the whole plant is now leaning over to one side a bit.
What I'd like to do is replant it (in the same spot) so that it's more
upright and am worried that now is the wrong time as it's just starting to
show it's buds for this years first bloom and the scent is georgeous as well
as the stunning display of bright yellow pea-like flowers.
Does anyone know when the best time would be to re-plant my spanish broom as
I only got it last year and don't want to loose it!
L

RHS A-Z Encyclopedia confirms Janet's comments about transplanting the
common broom, cytisus ('...they resent transplanting'). However, they
don't make any similar comment for Spanish broom, Spartium juniceum,
so you might get away with it. But they also say that to renovate
older specimens, cut back to the ground in spring, which suggests it
tolerates hard pruning, so moving it may not be necessary.


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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:09:37 GMT, "Zizz"
wrote:

I've a spanish broom that's about 5ft tall and about as wide that I'm a

bit
worried about.
One of its three main branches became a bit top heavy toward the end of

last
year and I've had to stake it for support but I was a bit late in doing

that
and the whole plant is now leaning over to one side a bit.
What I'd like to do is replant it (in the same spot) so that it's more
upright and am worried that now is the wrong time as it's just starting

to
show it's buds for this years first bloom and the scent is georgeous as

well
as the stunning display of bright yellow pea-like flowers.
Does anyone know when the best time would be to re-plant my spanish broom

as
I only got it last year and don't want to loose it!
L

RHS A-Z Encyclopedia confirms Janet's comments about transplanting the
common broom, cytisus ('...they resent transplanting'). However, they
don't make any similar comment for Spanish broom, Spartium juniceum,
so you might get away with it. But they also say that to renovate
older specimens, cut back to the ground in spring, which suggests it
tolerates hard pruning, so moving it may not be necessary.


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Apologies for the late reply .... Pruning back down to the ground would mean
cutting into old wood and I read that it's not something to do!
The plant is about 5 feet tall of which 2 1/2 ft is old wood ... it's now
got its spring buds on ... I think I'll see how summer goes and when it
seems to have died down a bit (it flowered 2x last year .. spring and early
autumn) to try and re-seat it with a good helping of bonemeal by way of
apologies.
L


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Old 09-05-2003, 01:20 AM
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On Wed, 07 May 2003 19:50:50 GMT, "Zizz" wrote:


"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:09:37 GMT, "Zizz"
wrote:

I've a spanish broom that's about 5ft tall and about as wide that I'm a

bit
worried about.


RHS A-Z Encyclopedia confirms Janet's comments about transplanting the
common broom, cytisus ('...they resent transplanting'). However, they
don't make any similar comment for Spanish broom, Spartium juniceum,
so you might get away with it. But they also say that to renovate
older specimens, cut back to the ground in spring, which suggests it
tolerates hard pruning, so moving it may not be necessary.



I found this:

Succeeds in any well-drained but not too fertile soil in a sunny position[200]. Prefers a
lime free soil according to one report[1] whilst another says that it thrives on alkaline
and poor sandy soils[200]. Very wind resistant, tolerating maritime exposure[166, 200].
Tolerates atmospheric pollution[200] and thrives on hot dry banks[11, 166].
A very ornamental plant, it is hardy to between -10 and -18°c when in a suitable
position[200].
The flowers have a fragrance that has been likened to oranges[245].
Plants can become leggy if grown in a sheltered position or too rich a soil[200], but they
can be pruned almost to the ground and will resprout from the base[K]. They can also be
trimmed in early spring in order to keep them more compact[188].
Plants are intolerant of root disturbance, they are best grown in pots and planted out
into their permanent positions whilst still small[11]. Plants often self-sow in
Britain[1].
Rabbits love eating this plant when it is young[1, K].
This species has a symbiotic relationship with certain soil bacteria, these bacteria form
nodules on the roots and fix atmospheric nitrogen. Some of this nitrogen is utilized by
the growing plant but some can also be used by other plants growing nearby[200].

I have one recently purchased too. Hot and dry.

Huss

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Apologies for the late reply .... Pruning back down to the ground would mean
cutting into old wood and I read that it's not something to do!
The plant is about 5 feet tall of which 2 1/2 ft is old wood ... it's now
got its spring buds on ... I think I'll see how summer goes and when it
seems to have died down a bit (it flowered 2x last year .. spring and early
autumn) to try and re-seat it with a good helping of bonemeal by way of
apologies.
L


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On Wed, 07 May 2003 19:50:50 GMT, "Zizz"

wrote:
I found this:

Succeeds in any well-drained but not too fertile soil in a sunny

position[200]. Prefers a
lime free soil according to one report[1] whilst another says that it

thrives on alkaline
and poor sandy soils[200]. Very wind resistant, tolerating maritime

exposure[166, 200].
Tolerates atmospheric pollution[200] and thrives on hot dry banks[11,

166].
A very ornamental plant, it is hardy to between -10 and -18°c when in a

suitable
position[200].
The flowers have a fragrance that has been likened to oranges[245].
Plants can become leggy if grown in a sheltered position or too rich a

soil[200], but they
can be pruned almost to the ground and will resprout from the base[K].

They can also be
trimmed in early spring in order to keep them more compact[188].
Plants are intolerant of root disturbance, they are best grown in pots and

planted out
into their permanent positions whilst still small[11]. Plants often

self-sow in
Britain[1].
Rabbits love eating this plant when it is young[1, K].
This species has a symbiotic relationship with certain soil bacteria,

these bacteria form
nodules on the roots and fix atmospheric nitrogen. Some of this nitrogen

is utilized by
the growing plant but some can also be used by other plants growing

nearby[200].

I have one recently purchased too. Hot and dry.

Huss


Thanks for the info. .... guess I should rule out re-planting it then :-(
I'll save some of the seeds and try getting a few to grow, if I'm successful
(not too good at seedlings!) then I'll try the cut down approach.
L


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On Wed, 07 May 2003 19:50:50 GMT, "Zizz"
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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
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RHS A-Z Encyclopedia confirms Janet's comments about transplanting the
common broom, cytisus ('...they resent transplanting'). However, they
don't make any similar comment for Spanish broom, Spartium juniceum,
so you might get away with it. But they also say that to renovate
older specimens, cut back to the ground in spring, which suggests it
tolerates hard pruning, so moving it may not be necessary.


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E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net


Apologies for the late reply .... Pruning back down to the ground would mean
cutting into old wood and I read that it's not something to do!


Many things can be pruned into old wood and they shoot very well, and
Spanish broom is one such if you think the RHS encyclopedia knows what
it's talking about.

OTOH you may not wish to risk it.....


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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 May 2003 19:50:50 GMT, "Zizz"
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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
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RHS A-Z Encyclopedia confirms Janet's comments about transplanting the
common broom, cytisus ('...they resent transplanting'). However, they
don't make any similar comment for Spanish broom, Spartium juniceum,
so you might get away with it. But they also say that to renovate
older specimens, cut back to the ground in spring, which suggests it
tolerates hard pruning, so moving it may not be necessary.


--
Chris

E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net


Apologies for the late reply .... Pruning back down to the ground would

mean
cutting into old wood and I read that it's not something to do!


Many things can be pruned into old wood and they shoot very well, and
Spanish broom is one such if you think the RHS encyclopedia knows what
it's talking about.

OTOH you may not wish to risk it.....


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E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net


I'll risk it when I've gotten some babies ... of the spanish broom that is!
L


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