"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 13/3/06 18:34, in article , "michael
adams"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
snip

I use Entourage which is the Mac version of OE, I believe. Please tell
me
how to do that! Wanadoo is hopeless with this sort of thing. None of
the
techies appear to know the first thing about newsgroups and freely admit
they aren't trained in any way to deal with newsgroup queries.

I'll use letters.


a) go to your main NewsReader window.

b) In the left hand pane, Right Click on the uk.rec.gardening
folder.

I don't have a right/left click mouse.

A menu should appear

c) Select [Properties]

d) Click on the [Local File] tab at the top of the dialogue box.

e) click on the [reset] button. Then close that box.

f) Then from the main menu along the top of the main Window, select
[Tools]

g) And then select [ Get the next 300 (or whatever) Headers ]

The only thing I can find at present is under View and it allows me to
select to see only unread messages. I'm sure I'm missing something
extremely easy but we start with the problem that my mouse doesn't do what
you ask in your second instruction. Many thanks for trying to help. I'll
fiddle about tomorrow and see if I can improve matters somehow.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

You can perform Richard's instructions in a similar way by clicking on tools
(on the ribbon bar at top of screen)
OptionsMaintenanceClean up now
Select the folder you wish to reset

"Rupert" wrote in message
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"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 13/3/06 18:34, in article , "michael
adams"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
snip

I use Entourage which is the Mac version of OE, I believe. Please
tell
me
how to do that! Wanadoo is hopeless with this sort of thing. None of
the
techies appear to know the first thing about newsgroups and freely
admit
they aren't trained in any way to deal with newsgroup queries.

I'll use letters.


a) go to your main NewsReader window.

b) In the left hand pane, Right Click on the uk.rec.gardening
folder.

I don't have a right/left click mouse.

A menu should appear

c) Select [Properties]

d) Click on the [Local File] tab at the top of the dialogue box.

e) click on the [reset] button. Then close that box.

f) Then from the main menu along the top of the main Window, select
[Tools]

g) And then select [ Get the next 300 (or whatever) Headers ]

The only thing I can find at present is under View and it allows me to
select to see only unread messages. I'm sure I'm missing something
extremely easy but we start with the problem that my mouse doesn't do
what
you ask in your second instruction. Many thanks for trying to help.
I'll
fiddle about tomorrow and see if I can improve matters somehow.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

You can perform Richard's instructions in a similar way by clicking on
tools
(on the ribbon bar at top of screen)
OptionsMaintenanceClean up now
Select the folder you wish to reset

So you can George, well spotted that man.

Bruce

....

"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 13/3/06 18:34, in article , "michael
adams"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
snip

I use Entourage which is the Mac version of OE, I believe. Please tell
me
how to do that! Wanadoo is hopeless with this sort of thing. None of
the
techies appear to know the first thing about newsgroups and freely
admit
they aren't trained in any way to deal with newsgroup queries.

I'll use letters.


a) go to your main NewsReader window.

b) In the left hand pane, Right Click on the uk.rec.gardening
folder.

I don't have a right/left click mouse.

A menu should appear

c) Select [Properties]

d) Click on the [Local File] tab at the top of the dialogue box.

e) click on the [reset] button. Then close that box.

f) Then from the main menu along the top of the main Window, select
[Tools]

g) And then select [ Get the next 300 (or whatever) Headers ]

The only thing I can find at present is under View and it allows me to
select to see only unread messages. I'm sure I'm missing something
extremely easy but we start with the problem that my mouse doesn't do what
you ask in your second instruction. Many thanks for trying to help. I'll
fiddle about tomorrow and see if I can improve matters somehow.

Sorry yes I was forgetting you've only got one mouse button on a Mac
(I think). The solution posted by Rupert works fine on OE at least,
without the need for any right clicking.



michael adams

....

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

On 13 Mar 2006 18:57:25 GMT, Bert Hyman put finger to keyboard and
typed:

(Sacha) wrote in
lid:

It's probably one of the morons who is currently bombarding this
newsgroup with yet more nonsense posts.

It is; look at the NNTP-Posting-Host: header.

It's the person who posts in this group as "Ian Paul Freemanly". Watch
out for anything he responds to - his posts are almost always
crossposted to other groups, and if you then reply to him without
chekcing the follow-ups you'll be doing the same.

What a sad little life THEY must lead!

Indeed. Reminds me a lot of the late Allen Hughes.

Mark
--
Visit: http://www.OrangeHedgehog.com - Useful stuff for the web
Listen: http://www.goodge.co.uk/files/dweeb.mp3 - you'll love it!

On 14/3/06 12:16 am, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 13/3/06 18:34, in article , "michael
adams"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
snip

I use Entourage which is the Mac version of OE, I believe. Please tell
me
how to do that! Wanadoo is hopeless with this sort of thing. None of
the
techies appear to know the first thing about newsgroups and freely
admit
they aren't trained in any way to deal with newsgroup queries.

I'll use letters.


a) go to your main NewsReader window.

b) In the left hand pane, Right Click on the uk.rec.gardening
folder.

I don't have a right/left click mouse.

A menu should appear

c) Select [Properties]

d) Click on the [Local File] tab at the top of the dialogue box.

e) click on the [reset] button. Then close that box.

f) Then from the main menu along the top of the main Window, select
[Tools]

g) And then select [ Get the next 300 (or whatever) Headers ]

The only thing I can find at present is under View and it allows me to
select to see only unread messages. I'm sure I'm missing something
extremely easy but we start with the problem that my mouse doesn't do what
you ask in your second instruction. Many thanks for trying to help. I'll
fiddle about tomorrow and see if I can improve matters somehow.

Sorry yes I was forgetting you've only got one mouse button on a Mac
(I think). The solution posted by Rupert works fine on OE at least,
without the need for any right clicking.

My ribbon bar, to use Rupert's description has the following on it
Entourage, File, Edit, View, Message, Format, Tools, Window, Help.
I can't find anything under Tools which will enable me to do as Rupert
suggests. Heaven knows I'm not computer literate but I really am trying to
sort this out, honest!
--
Sacha

"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 14/3/06 12:16 am, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 13/3/06 18:34, in article , "michael
adams"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
snip

I use Entourage which is the Mac version of OE, I believe. Please
tell
me
how to do that! Wanadoo is hopeless with this sort of thing. None
of
the
techies appear to know the first thing about newsgroups and freely
admit
they aren't trained in any way to deal with newsgroup queries.

I'll use letters.


a) go to your main NewsReader window.

b) In the left hand pane, Right Click on the uk.rec.gardening
folder.

I don't have a right/left click mouse.

A menu should appear

c) Select [Properties]

d) Click on the [Local File] tab at the top of the dialogue box.

e) click on the [reset] button. Then close that box.

f) Then from the main menu along the top of the main Window, select
[Tools]

g) And then select [ Get the next 300 (or whatever) Headers ]

The only thing I can find at present is under View and it allows me to
select to see only unread messages. I'm sure I'm missing something
extremely easy but we start with the problem that my mouse doesn't do
what
you ask in your second instruction. Many thanks for trying to help.
I'll
fiddle about tomorrow and see if I can improve matters somehow.

Sorry yes I was forgetting you've only got one mouse button on a Mac
(I think). The solution posted by Rupert works fine on OE at least,
without the need for any right clicking.

My ribbon bar, to use Rupert's description has the following on it
Entourage, File, Edit, View, Message, Format, Tools, Window, Help.
I can't find anything under Tools which will enable me to do as Rupert
suggests. Heaven knows I'm not computer literate but I really am trying
to
sort this out, honest!
--
Sacha


1. O.K. click on [Tools] on the top menu.

2. Does that produce a drop down menu with [options] at the bottom?

3. If it does ,click on that.

4. That should bring up a realy big Dialogue Box with Tabs at the top.

5. Click on the [maintainance] Tab (should be) on the top right.

6. Then click on the [Clean Up Now] button.

7. You then get the chance to select the folder(s) you want to clean
up.

8. Select [browse], browse around* and when you've found it, click on
the urg newsgroup folder. (And any others if you wish)

(*I don't know how easy it will be to find)

9. You then get the option to [reset] that folder - should be
the bottom button. Click on that.

10. Click on that and then reload the group from tools menu at the top.


michael adams

....

On 14/3/06 10:15 am, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:

snip

1. O.K. click on [Tools] on the top menu.

2. Does that produce a drop down menu with [options] at the bottom?

3. If it does ,click on that.

snip
You're being incredibly kind and patient. Feel free to take this to email
if you prefer and for the group's sake! I think I'm in a minority of one
using a Mac and Entourage.
My Tools button produces: Run Schedule with an arrow beside, Send and
Receive ditto, Spelling, Change Dictionary, Auto Correct, Dictionary, Check
Names, Add to Address Book, Open Links, Link to Existing with an arrow
beside it, Link to New ditto, Junk Mail Filter, Mailing List Manager, Rules,
Newsgroup Settings (which is greyed out atm), Tools on the Web, Directory
Services, Signatures, Schedules, Accounts
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 14/3/06 10:15 am, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:

snip

1. O.K. click on [Tools] on the top menu.

2. Does that produce a drop down menu with [options] at the bottom?

3. If it does ,click on that.

snip

You're being incredibly kind and patient. Feel free to take this to email
if you prefer and for the group's sake! I think I'm in a minority of one
using a Mac and Entourage.

[Problem with resetting NewsGroups in Eudora]


Possibly not. Maybe another Mac urg user will read this - I've renamed the
thread - and can offer first hand advice.

Try clicking on all the top menu options which IIRR you said earlier were -
File, Edit, View, Message, Format, Tools, Window, Help.

Do any of these offer an [options] er option?

Being able to reset a newsgroup is such a useful and desirable
feature that I'd imagine it will be in there somewhere.

Back this afternoon. This is now a challenge.


michael adams

....


My Tools button produces: Run Schedule with an arrow beside, Send and
Receive ditto, Spelling, Change Dictionary, Auto Correct, Dictionary,
Check
Names, Add to Address Book, Open Links, Link to Existing with an arrow
beside it, Link to New ditto, Junk Mail Filter, Mailing List Manager,
Rules,
Newsgroup Settings (which is greyed out atm), Tools on the Web, Directory
Services, Signatures, Schedules, Accounts
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:46:38 +0000, michael adams wrote
(in article ):


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 14/3/06 10:15 am, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:

snip

1. O.K. click on [Tools] on the top menu.

2. Does that produce a drop down menu with [options] at the bottom?

3. If it does ,click on that.

snip

You're being incredibly kind and patient. Feel free to take this to email
if you prefer and for the group's sake! I think I'm in a minority of one
using a Mac and Entourage.

[Problem with resetting NewsGroups in Eudora]


Possibly not. Maybe another Mac urg user will read this - I've renamed the
thread - and can offer first hand advice.

Try clicking on all the top menu options which IIRR you said earlier were -
File, Edit, View, Message, Format, Tools, Window, Help.

Do any of these offer an [options] er option?

Being able to reset a newsgroup is such a useful and desirable
feature that I'd imagine it will be in there somewhere.


I don't use Entourage, but use Hogwasher on a Mac. I don't have the options
you suggest, but I do have a "Reset Subscription" which seems (from the help
file) to do the same thing. I will try it the next time we have a deluge.
Perhaps Sacha has something similar?



--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk

"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 14/3/06 12:16 am, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 13/3/06 18:34, in article , "michael
adams"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
snip

I use Entourage which is the Mac version of OE, I believe. Please
tell
me
how to do that! Wanadoo is hopeless with this sort of thing. None of
the
techies appear to know the first thing about newsgroups and freely
admit
they aren't trained in any way to deal with newsgroup queries.

I'll use letters.


a) go to your main NewsReader window.

b) In the left hand pane, Right Click on the uk.rec.gardening
folder.

I don't have a right/left click mouse.

A menu should appear

c) Select [Properties]

d) Click on the [Local File] tab at the top of the dialogue box.

e) click on the [reset] button. Then close that box.

f) Then from the main menu along the top of the main Window, select
[Tools]

g) And then select [ Get the next 300 (or whatever) Headers ]

The only thing I can find at present is under View and it allows me to
select to see only unread messages. I'm sure I'm missing something
extremely easy but we start with the problem that my mouse doesn't do
what
you ask in your second instruction. Many thanks for trying to help.
I'll
fiddle about tomorrow and see if I can improve matters somehow.

Sorry yes I was forgetting you've only got one mouse button on a Mac
(I think). The solution posted by Rupert works fine on OE at least,
without the need for any right clicking.

My ribbon bar, to use Rupert's description has the following on it
Entourage, File, Edit, View, Message, Format, Tools, Window, Help.
I can't find anything under Tools which will enable me to do as Rupert
suggests. Heaven knows I'm not computer literate but I really am trying
to
sort this out, honest!
--
Sacha



Don't worry-that info I gave will not work with Entourage(Sorry)--the
Options thingy is not there. I have just rung a friend who has tried it with
Entourage but unfortunately he can't see how to achieve what we want.
There will be a way as Michael says.

Sasha, according to an "expert", on a mac eudora group

quote

In the group list, select the group. (Click on it, so it is hilited)
In the "News" menu, select "Mark Read". (or command-M)
Then all messages are considered to have been read, so in the future
you will see only newly-posted messages.

--
G. A. Edgar http://www.math.ohio-state.munged.edu/~edgar/


/quote

Dunno if this will be of any more use than any of my efforts
up to now, but fingers crossed.


michael adams

....

On 14/3/06 10:46 am, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 14/3/06 10:15 am, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:

snip

1. O.K. click on [Tools] on the top menu.

2. Does that produce a drop down menu with [options] at the bottom?

3. If it does ,click on that.

snip

You're being incredibly kind and patient. Feel free to take this to email
if you prefer and for the group's sake! I think I'm in a minority of one
using a Mac and Entourage.

[Problem with resetting NewsGroups in Eudora]


Possibly not. Maybe another Mac urg user will read this - I've renamed the
thread - and can offer first hand advice.

Try clicking on all the top menu options which IIRR you said earlier were -
File, Edit, View, Message, Format, Tools, Window, Help.

Do any of these offer an [options] er option?

Not that I can see.

Being able to reset a newsgroup is such a useful and desirable
feature that I'd imagine it will be in there somewhere.

I do hope so!

Back this afternoon. This is now a challenge.

I really hope you like a challenge..... ;-) But thank you - I do mean that
most sincerely. People here are so good at helping with computer problems,
as well as gardening ones. I'm always rather amazd at what diverse talents
we have here.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 14/3/06 10:46 am, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 14/3/06 10:15 am, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:

snip

1. O.K. click on [Tools] on the top menu.

2. Does that produce a drop down menu with [options] at the bottom?

3. If it does ,click on that.

snip

You're being incredibly kind and patient. Feel free to take this to
email
if you prefer and for the group's sake! I think I'm in a minority of
one
using a Mac and Entourage.

[Problem with resetting NewsGroups in Eudora]


Possibly not. Maybe another Mac urg user will read this - I've renamed
the
thread - and can offer first hand advice.

Try clicking on all the top menu options which IIRR you said earlier
were -
File, Edit, View, Message, Format, Tools, Window, Help.

Do any of these offer an [options] er option?

Not that I can see.

Being able to reset a newsgroup is such a useful and desirable
feature that I'd imagine it will be in there somewhere.

I do hope so!

Back this afternoon. This is now a challenge.

I really hope you like a challenge..... ;-) But thank you - I do mean
that
most sincerely. People here are so good at helping with computer
problems,
as well as gardening ones. I'm always rather amazd at what diverse
talents
we have here.

Sorry, I've made a complete hash of this. Please bear with me, as I
mixed up Entourage which is what you said you used, with er Eudora.
And so have been looking in the wrong newsgroups.

Oops!

michael adams

....

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 14/3/06 10:15 am, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:

snip

1. O.K. click on [Tools] on the top menu.

2. Does that produce a drop down menu with [options] at the bottom?

3. If it does ,click on that.

snip
You're being incredibly kind and patient. Feel free to take this to email
if you prefer and for the group's sake! I think I'm in a minority of one
using a Mac and Entourage.
My Tools button produces: Run Schedule with an arrow beside, Send and
Receive ditto, Spelling, Change Dictionary, Auto Correct, Dictionary,
Check
Names, Add to Address Book, Open Links, Link to Existing with an arrow
beside it, Link to New ditto, Junk Mail Filter, Mailing List Manager,
Rules,
Newsgroup Settings (which is greyed out atm)

Do you know why your NewsGroup settings are greyed out ?

Couldn't this mean you're not using that program for reading
NewsGroups ? This mightn't be all that obvious, depending on how
many windows you have open at once. But the fact that the
NewsGroup settings are greyed out doesn't seem very satisfactory
to me, at least.



michael adams

....

, Tools on the Web, Directory
Services, Signatures, Schedules, Accounts
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

On 14/3/06 1:41 pm, in article , "michael
adams" wrote:


Sasha, according to an "expert", on a mac eudora group

quote

In the group list, select the group. (Click on it, so it is hilited)
In the "News" menu, select "Mark Read". (or command-M)
Then all messages are considered to have been read, so in the future
you will see only newly-posted messages.

Unhappily, that doesn't work, either. I've had them all marked as "Read"
for ages but their 'ghosts' are still there. Under 'View', I can select
"View Unread Messages Only", which is what I have been doing. But that
means you can't refer back through other posts in a thread if you've already
read them. I am sure I'm being very stupid about this and that there must
be a way to clear read messages off my screen but I can't find the way to do
it. It's never been an issue before so I'm not sure where to start.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)