"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 17/7/06 10:10, in article ,
"Alan" wrote:


"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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"Alan"wrote anyone read the sun on saturday 15/07/06

Lt Tulbahadur Pun 89 years old Ex Gurkha from WW11 now living in
poverty
in
Nepal has been refused by the army museum to borrow HIS VC TO WEAR ONE
LAST
TIME before he dies (bear in mind his age) i think that the
Government/MOD
should step in and make this possible for him, it would appear that our
government look after criminals,rapists,work dodgers and other low life
better than they look after people like Tulbahadur who have risked
their
life for england


Having been to Nepal and seen places off the tourist route I understand
what poverty means out there, unless you have seen it no-one in this
country can imagine it.
Think of this country about 700 years ago, living closely with the
animals
to keep warm, washing pots in sewage sludge, children playing in pools
caused when open sewers flood due to heavy rain.
The Ghurkhas, indeed the Nepalese, are our friends and have been for
generations. Why does our Government and it's Civil Service treat these
people so dishonourably? It reflects on all of us.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK


thank you very much for that bob it is by far the best and most sensible
response i have had so far,
indead, i am so suprised that so many people are not even interested they
seem more concerned that the matter should not be mixed up with a
gardening
ng i don't understand why when there must be folk out there that fought
alongside the gurkhas in WW11 still i suppose some people have short
memories


That is a complete misrepresentation of the facts and the truth. Some of
us
have said that we have sympathy with your pov and many of us have already
read this story in our newspapers.
This is not an ex-serviceman's newsgroup which is where you are most
likely
to get the response you want or need. This is a *gardening* group. If
everyone in this group posted on every issue *they* consider important
(especially without marketing it OT) this would no longer be a gardening
group at all.
If you post this to a military group or groups, you might get people to
band
together and take the action you appear to want. Here, all you're doing
is
annoying people which defeats your object. The last person to do this was
rapidly outed as a troll, has been an obnoxious pest ever since and is now
in the position where virtually nobody responds to his posts. That is a
danger for those who persist in trying to run a group for their own
interests and not those of the group.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

so speaks the NG police

"Alan" wrote in message
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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 16/7/06 21:59, in article ,
"Alan" wrote:


"shazzbat" wrote in message
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"Alan" wrote in message
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snip

I'm intrigued that you saw fit to post this in a gardening NG and not
for
instance in uk.people.ex-forces. But having said that, I think you have
a
valid point, treatment of Ghurkhas is generally abysmal given the
sacrifices many have made.

Steve

the reasoning for posting this in gardening is that many older folk are
keen
gardeners and possibly belong to the burma star association a lot of
which
fought alongside the gurkhas it just may be of interest to them to see
the
way this hero is being treated after risking his life for britain


A lot of older people also fish, take long holidays, help raise
grandchildren, own homes abroad, paint, do DIY, do tapestry, enjoy
crosswords, train spotting and sex. This group has people with a very
wide
range of activities, interests, hobbies and professions. That is not a
good
reason for posting messages on those subjects in a *gardening* group and
especially not without marking the msg. OT so that those who wish to can
ignore it. We've already suffered years of the depredations of a prat
who
used that kind of argument to annoy this group and remained as one of the
worst trolls known to netkind.
I have real sympathy with your cause but if we all posted on our own
particular hobbyhorses on a regular basis - well........!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

you are so sad -------- if it wasnt for guys like this we would all be
speaking japanese or german by now


I'd like to be able to speak Japanese. They all sound so angry? I'd like to
know what they get so het up about?

On 17/7/06 13:31, in article ,
"Alan" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
snip
If you post this to a military group or groups, you might get people to
band
together and take the action you appear to want. Here, all you're doing
is
annoying people which defeats your object. The last person to do this was
rapidly outed as a troll, has been an obnoxious pest ever since and is now
in the position where virtually nobody responds to his posts. That is a
danger for those who persist in trying to run a group for their own
interests and not those of the group.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

so speaks the NG police


Oh my. Now why does THAT sound so familiar? Isle of Wight, eh?
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

Oh my. Now why does THAT sound so familiar? Isle of Wight, eh?
--
Sacha
(email address on website)


Pot

Kettle

Black

:-))

"Mike" wrote in message
news


Oh my. Now why does THAT sound so familiar? Isle of Wight, eh?
--
Sacha
(email address on website)


Pot

Kettle

Black

:-))


he he he

"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Mike" wrote in message
news


Oh my. Now why does THAT sound so familiar? Isle of Wight, eh?
--
Sacha
(email address on website)


Pot

Kettle

Black

:-))


he he he



Net nannies

Net cops

Newsgroup 'owners'

Don't you 'just' luv em?

:-((

Just 'who' do they think they are?

Mike


--
------------------------------------------------
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk

If you had simply added OT in the message line and left a link to the story,
perhaps this would have been received with much more vigour.
Think, before you link, before you send.
I am sympathetic but do not enjoy crusades on one instance, when there are
many instances of famine, misbehaviour, war, pestilence etc in the world
both abroad and here in this country.
I have my own priorities.
regards
Cineman

"Alan" wrote in message
...
anyone read the sun on saturday 15/07/06

Lt Tulbahadur Pun 89 years old Ex Gurkha from WW11 now living in poverty
in
Nepal has been refused by the army museum to borrow HIS VC TO WEAR ONE
LAST
TIME before he dies (bear in mind his age) i think that the Government/MOD
should step in and make this possible for him, it would appear that our
government look after criminals,rapists,work dodgers and other low life
better than they look after people like Tulbahadur who have risked their
life for england

"Alan" wrote in message
...
anyone read the sun on saturday 15/07/06

Lt Tulbahadur Pun 89 years old Ex Gurkha from WW11 now living in poverty
in
Nepal has been refused by the army museum to borrow HIS VC TO WEAR ONE
LAST
TIME before he dies (bear in mind his age) i think that the Government/MOD
should step in and make this possible for him, it would appear that our
government look after criminals,rapists,work dodgers and other low life
better than they look after people like Tulbahadur who have risked their
life for england
~~~~~~~~~~~~
There seems to be more to this matter than the obvious. This particular
medal has already been involved in trade and is highly likely to be so again
if it leaves. It it also most unlikely that Lt. Tulbahadur would benefit in
any way. Others would want to be involved with its value.
It is better to remain, in his memory, than appear for sale yet again.
Best Wishes Brian.

"Mike" wrote in message
...


"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Mike" wrote in message
news


Oh my. Now why does THAT sound so familiar? Isle of Wight, eh?
--
Sacha
(email address on website)


Pot

Kettle

Black

:-))


he he he



Net nannies

Net cops

Newsgroup 'owners'

Don't you 'just' luv em?

:-((

Just 'who' do they think they are?

Mike


--
------------------------------------------------
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk


jonny no mates springs to mind

jonny no mates springs to mind



:-))

"Ian" wrote in message
...


I'd like to be able to speak Japanese. They all sound so angry? I'd like
to
know what they get so het up about?


Bad dubbing on Anime imports I think.
--
Rhiannon_s:
Just a scientific experiment gone horribly wrong.

"Alan" wrote in message
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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 16/7/06 22:57, in article ,
"Alan" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
snip
I think this treatment is disgraceful but I also think it has
absolutely
nothing to do with a gardening group.
--

the reasoning for posting this in gardening is that many older folk are
keen
gardeners and possibly belong to the burma star association a lot of
which
fought alongside the gurkhas it just may be of interest to them to see
the
way this hero is being treated after risking his life for britain now do
you
understand why i posted it here


No. And I don't understand why you posted it to the Isle of Wight group,
either.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

oh get back under your stone you obviously have no compassion and are full
of mistaken self importance

Is that different to your self importance?

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 16/7/06 21:59, in article ,
"Alan" wrote:


"shazzbat" wrote in message
...

"Alan" wrote in message
...

snip

I'm intrigued that you saw fit to post this in a gardening NG and not
for
instance in uk.people.ex-forces. But having said that, I think you have
a
valid point, treatment of Ghurkhas is generally abysmal given the
sacrifices many have made.

Steve

the reasoning for posting this in gardening is that many older folk are
keen
gardeners and possibly belong to the burma star association a lot of
which
fought alongside the gurkhas it just may be of interest to them to see
the
way this hero is being treated after risking his life for britain


A lot of older people also fish, take long holidays, help raise
grandchildren, own homes abroad, paint, do DIY, do tapestry, enjoy
crosswords, train spotting and sex.

SEX! Are you sure?

That's disgraceful!

This group has people with a very wide
range of activities, interests, hobbies and professions. That is not a
good
reason for posting messages on those subjects in a *gardening* group and
especially not without marking the msg. OT so that those who wish to can
ignore it. We've already suffered years of the depredations of a prat who
used that kind of argument to annoy this group and remained as one of the
worst trolls known to netkind.

Here, here.

Alan

"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 16/7/06 21:59, in article ,
"Alan" wrote:


"shazzbat" wrote in message
...

"Alan" wrote in message
...

snip

I'm intrigued that you saw fit to post this in a gardening NG and not
for
instance in uk.people.ex-forces. But having said that, I think you have
a
valid point, treatment of Ghurkhas is generally abysmal given the
sacrifices many have made.

Steve

the reasoning for posting this in gardening is that many older folk are
keen
gardeners and possibly belong to the burma star association a lot of
which
fought alongside the gurkhas it just may be of interest to them to see
the
way this hero is being treated after risking his life for britain


A lot of older people also fish, take long holidays, help raise
grandchildren, own homes abroad, paint, do DIY, do tapestry, enjoy
crosswords, train spotting and sex. This group has people with a very
wide
range of activities, interests, hobbies and professions. That is not a
good
reason for posting messages on those subjects in a *gardening* group and
especially not without marking the msg. OT so that those who wish to can
ignore it. We've already suffered years of the depredations of a prat
who
used that kind of argument to annoy this group and remained as one of the
worst trolls known to netkind.
I have real sympathy with your cause but if we all posted on our own
particular hobbyhorses on a regular basis - well........!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

you are so sad -------- if it wasnt for guys like this we would all be
speaking japanese or german by now

The only sad one is you, who does not appear to recognise the names of
newsgroups, or do you find english a difficult language?

Alan

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"Alan"wrote anyone read the sun on saturday 15/07/06

Lt Tulbahadur Pun 89 years old Ex Gurkha from WW11 now living in poverty
in
Nepal has been refused by the army museum to borrow HIS VC TO WEAR ONE
LAST
TIME before he dies (bear in mind his age) i think that the
Government/MOD
should step in and make this possible for him, it would appear that our
government look after criminals,rapists,work dodgers and other low life
better than they look after people like Tulbahadur who have risked their
life for england


Having been to Nepal and seen places off the tourist route I understand
what poverty means out there, unless you have seen it no-one in this
country can imagine it.
Think of this country about 700 years ago, living closely with the animals
to keep warm, washing pots in sewage sludge, children playing in pools
caused when open sewers flood due to heavy rain.
The Ghurkhas, indeed the Nepalese, are our friends and have been for
generations. Why does our Government and it's Civil Service treat these
people so dishonourably? It reflects on all of us.

I agree, but this was not the right place to post it, had he writen to the
newspapers, it would have been much more effective as many more people would
have seen it.

Alan



--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK