"cineman" wrote
snip

Dont pick the frog up the sweat on your hands could injure him/her at
least wet your hands in soft/rain water first if you must pick them up.
regards
Cineman

OH ?
Never heard that before.
Jenny

On 17/8/06 23:42, in article , "Peter
Stockdale" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...

No boo hiss from here though our Jack Russells might have a different pov.
However, if frogs are coming into your garden, I think it's because they
expect to find somewhere in which to breed. Perhaps a pond has been filled
in, in the past? Frogs and toads return to their old spawning grounds
which
is why they're in need of help from us who can make ponds for them.
snip
We are surprisingly frogless round here inspite of having large pond,
stream and canal adjacent.
No cats either.
I suspect that my 100+ goldfish in the pond and the 1000+ course fish in
the canal leave no space for mr froggies lifecycle.

All the more need for wildlife ponds sans fish, which is what we've done
here. We have two large ponds with fish in them and there is no doubt that
the fish eat the tads. It was the only pond up until a few years ago when
we made a duck pond (ducks flew off!) and then a large pond in front of the
house. We've now turned the duck pond into a wildlife pond and have
deliberately not put fish in it. We get loads of toads and frogs here, so
last spring I put some spawn into it and we're hoping that will have happy
results and if we can direct toads and frogs to it, we'll try that, too.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

JennyC wrote:
"Space" wrote in message
...
this is probably a daft question, but I will ask anyway.
my cat just found a frog in the garden and not for the first time.
the cat is indoors now and the frog is outdoors.

our garden is surrounded by fencing, and I assume that the frog somehow
came
in through the fencing. I am sure a close neighbour has a pond.

question - will the frog find his way back again? should I pick him up
and
ask the neighbour if he wants him back?

They tend to wander about quite a bit, probably foraging for bugs etc.

We get them in our very dry garden. They come across from the canal behind
our house. I'm sure that yours know their way back to their pond :~))

Jenny


I have frogs by the score in my garden, whenever I cut grass or weed
they pop up. The area is completely fenced in with rabbit proof fencing
and most are much to big to fit through. I was clearing out the grids
the other day, which are covered by a fine mesh, there was a very large
frog. My assumption is they get in when tiny, then grow, as is their
wont, though what the frog in the grid fed on I cannot imagine.

Space writes

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 17/8/06 22:28, in article , "Space"
wrote:

snip
oh, I don't mind having a frog in the garden - I would hate for the cat
to
hurt it though. also, daft as I am I worry that the poor little frog
doesn't have a large supply of water in my garden.

Could you make a shallow pond for the toads and frogs? They really do
need
help!

not really, my cat is amazed by them. before now he has brought them into
the house. he carries them in ever so carefully (or so it seems) and
watches them hop around.

however careful he is it must place a hell of alot of stress on the poor
buggers, obviously. hence the question about taking the frog back to his
pond. we had some heavy rain today, we always get frogs after heavy rain.

I love my cats (boo hiss I hear from quarters of the gardening group) but I
don't want them to harm other animals.

They're going to, whatever. All you can do is do your best to give the
other animals more of a chance. Try and keep cats in from before dusk
overnight, provide shelter in the form of bushes for birds and dense
vegetation for amphibians. Aim to make the positive effect of your
garden outweigh the negative effect of the cats.



--
Kay

Sacha writes

No boo hiss from here though our Jack Russells might have a different pov.
However, if frogs are coming into your garden, I think it's because they
expect to find somewhere in which to breed.

Breeding is well over. At this time of year they are hunting, and I'd
guess the garden has a reasonable cover of vegetation and damp ground,
good for both bugs and shelter.


--
Kay

Space writes

"K" wrote in message
...

He'll find his way back. At this time of year they're mostly on land, so
being in your garden is not a problem to him. They move to ponds for
breeding, some overwinter in the pond, and some will spend the day in
the pond if the weather is hot.

oh good - so I don't need to go out with a torch to track him down to tell
him to play in his own garden :-)

If you're garden has got what he needs, he'll just come back again ;-)


--
Kay

On 18/8/06 14:59, in article , "K"
wrote:

Sacha writes

No boo hiss from here though our Jack Russells might have a different pov.
However, if frogs are coming into your garden, I think it's because they
expect to find somewhere in which to breed.

Breeding is well over. At this time of year they are hunting, and I'd
guess the garden has a reasonable cover of vegetation and damp ground,
good for both bugs and shelter.

Ah, I didn't see a limited time frame given to the plague of frogs.
I suppose that in spring they're looking for a breeding place and now
they're looking for food and shelter etc.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

"Space" wrote in message
...

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 17/8/06 22:28, in article , "Space"
wrote:

snip
oh, I don't mind having a frog in the garden - I would hate for the cat
to
hurt it though. also, daft as I am I worry that the poor little frog
doesn't have a large supply of water in my garden.

Could you make a shallow pond for the toads and frogs? They really do
need
help!

not really, my cat is amazed by them. before now he has brought them into
the house. he carries them in ever so carefully (or so it seems) and
watches them hop around.

however careful he is it must place a hell of alot of stress on the poor
buggers, obviously. hence the question about taking the frog back to his
pond. we had some heavy rain today, we always get frogs after heavy rain.

I love my cats (boo hiss I hear from quarters of the gardening group) but
I
don't want them to harm other animals.

Not from this quarter, I love cats too, when I was small and used to wear a
pinny, as all small boys did at the time, when the cat had had a litter I
used to collect them and carry them about in the pinny, when the cat thought
they needed feeding she used to come looking for me, then when she had
finiished feeding them, back into the pinny they went!

Alan

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:44:23 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:


"Space" wrote in message
.. .
this is probably a daft question, but I will ask anyway.
my cat just found a frog in the garden and not for the first time.
the cat is indoors now and the frog is outdoors.

our garden is surrounded by fencing, and I assume that the frog somehow
came
in through the fencing. I am sure a close neighbour has a pond.

question - will the frog find his way back again? should I pick him up
and
ask the neighbour if he wants him back?

They tend to wander about quite a bit, probably foraging for bugs etc.

We get them in our very dry garden. They come across from the canal behind
our house. I'm sure that yours know their way back to their pond :~))

We get them in our garden from a neighbour's pond. My wife used to
take them back, until the same frog was repatriated 3 times in an
afternoon. Now we leaves them to get on with their froggy lives. The
net result is that we have a near slug free garden this year and frogs
as big as my hand.
--

Martin
I haven't read all the correspondence on this topic-apologies if I repeat.
We live in Devon inland but near the sea, with a wooded garden and lots of
undergrowth.(ie quite humid)
Our neighbour uphill, up high banks has a pond.
We have lots of frogs and toads in the garden (care whilst strimming). Every
spring they migrate up the lane to our neighbour's garden to breed-we have
to watch when returning by car late at night and clear them away to avoid
squashing. They have no difficulty getting where they want to go-Probably
smell the pond.
Frogs, toads and newts seem to move long distances 100M or more to breed.
I guess they do like humid leafy conditions, and I think these are probably
as important as a good breeding pond.
With regard to cats, it is recognised that they don't like toads and our cat
when alive did not catch frogs. Frogs have a bitter taste-those of the
edible variety have to be blanched to remove it.
Regards
David T

In message , JennyC
writes

"cineman" wrote
snip

Dont pick the frog up the sweat on your hands could injure him/her at
least wet your hands in soft/rain water first if you must pick them up.
regards
Cineman

OH ?
Never heard that before.

It's theoretically true that the salt on its skin would absorb water
from inside the amphibian. In practice, unless your hands are very
salty and the amphibian small and conditions dry, they can cope.

I remember once having to remove a toad that'd been sitting on my bare
foot for an hour or so, as I wanted to go indoors for lunch - it can't
have been suffering much.

It's obviously best not to disturb them unnecessarily, but lunch counts
as a necessity.

--
Sue ]

"david taylor" wrote
Martin
I haven't read all the correspondence on this topic-apologies if I repeat.
We live in Devon inland but near the sea, with a wooded garden and lots of
undergrowth.(ie quite humid)
Our neighbour uphill, up high banks has a pond.
We have lots of frogs and toads in the garden (care whilst strimming).
Every spring they migrate up the lane to our neighbour's garden to
breed-we have to watch when returning by car late at night .....

Hope they don't get caught for speeding :~))))

and clear them away to avoid squashing. They have no difficulty getting
where they want to go-Probably smell the pond.
Frogs, toads and newts seem to move long distances 100M or more to breed.
I guess they do like humid leafy conditions, and I think these are
probably as important as a good breeding pond.
With regard to cats, it is recognised that they don't like toads and our
cat when alive did not catch frogs. Frogs have a bitter taste-those of the
edible variety have to be blanched to remove it.
Regards
David T

Jenny

sam wrote:
If you have a frog in your garden your lucky. A toad - even better.
They will devour slugs with relish

Any particular favourites I should put out to encourage them? Branston
Pickle? Piccalilli?

Will