On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

I woke up this morning and realised they you have hurt my reputation in
urg as I cannot prove what an awful person you are - so I will leave
urglers to decide who is the liar. I am unsubscribing from urg with a
very sore heart. Well done Helene.

In that case, so am I. And to the rest of those here, I'd like to tell you
that you will now have the newsgroup that you deserve because you have
failed to protect it and its targeted members from the lies and filth you
have allowed,

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

D.Mentor.

Dementor writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

You may be feeling smug, but the rest of us have lost a good proportion
of the urg expertise on trees and shrubs and the largest part of the
expertise on tropicals.
--
Kay

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:48:44 +0100, K wrote:

Dementor writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

You may be feeling smug, but the rest of us have lost a good proportion
of the urg expertise on trees and shrubs and the largest part of the
expertise on tropicals.

I don't do smug. I merely note objectively that this is a better,
calmer and more friendly place since it was vacated by the
self-serving and self-elected 'leaders'. They have no monopoly on
expertise in the subjects you mention and the slight hiatus you
deplore will be transient. The atmosphere will now surely be more
attractive to other, more congenial contributors, unencumbered by the
burden of elitism combined with the heavy load of shoulder-chips and
domination fixation.



De Mentore

Dementor writes
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:48:44 +0100, K wrote:

Dementor writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

You may be feeling smug, but the rest of us have lost a good proportion
of the urg expertise on trees and shrubs and the largest part of the
expertise on tropicals.

I don't do smug. I merely note objectively

"Owners" and "coven" are hardly objective.

that this is a better,
calmer and more friendly place since it was vacated by the
self-serving and self-elected 'leaders'.

The were not leaders and never claimed to be. I'll now desist and leave
you to your stirring.

--
Kay

"K" wrote in message
...

The were not leaders and never claimed to be. I'll now desist and leave
you to your stirring.

--
Kay

Not stirring at all, just stating the fact.

Can you not see that the newsgroup has improved? No aggression? Sensible
questions and lots of answers by those interested in gardening, not 'point
scoring' and 'kissy kissy messages' which could, and should, have gone to
email?

Then you are blinkered. Don't come in here causing trouble again. Let the
gardeners ask questions on gardening and let those who have the answers
answer.

Go and join the Tennis Club

Mike


--
.................................................. .........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

"Dementor" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:48:44 +0100, K wrote:

Dementor writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

You may be feeling smug, but the rest of us have lost a good proportion
of the urg expertise on trees and shrubs and the largest part of the
expertise on tropicals.

I don't do smug. I merely note objectively that this is a better,
calmer and more friendly place since it was vacated by the
self-serving and self-elected 'leaders'. They have no monopoly on
expertise in the subjects you mention and the slight hiatus you
deplore will be transient. The atmosphere will now surely be more
attractive to other, more congenial contributors, unencumbered by the
burden of elitism combined with the heavy load of shoulder-chips and
domination fixation.



De Mentore

So we have substituted you for some of the experts that have fled this
place.
I don't think we have a good deal.

"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote in message
...


So we have substituted you for some of the experts that have fled this
place.
I don't think we have a good deal.


The newsgroup doesn't seem to be lacking advice :-)))

However it would seem to still be attracting trouble makers. Go and join a
Tennis Club

Mike


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.................................................. .........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:31:16 +0100, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote:


"Dementor" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:48:44 +0100, K wrote:

Dementor writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

You may be feeling smug, but the rest of us have lost a good proportion
of the urg expertise on trees and shrubs and the largest part of the
expertise on tropicals.

I don't do smug. I merely note objectively that this is a better,
calmer and more friendly place since it was vacated by the
self-serving and self-elected 'leaders'. They have no monopoly on
expertise in the subjects you mention and the slight hiatus you
deplore will be transient. The atmosphere will now surely be more
attractive to other, more congenial contributors, unencumbered by the
burden of elitism combined with the heavy load of shoulder-chips and
domination fixation.

De Mentore

So we have substituted you for some of the experts that have fled this
place.

You now have a better mousetrap. Other experts will come.

I don't think we have a good deal.

It never was a deal.

Regards

Dem Entore.

"Dementor" wrote in message
...

You now have a better mousetrap. Other experts will come.

I don't think we have a good deal.

It never was a deal.

Regards

Dem Entore.

But we did have a deal, a good deal similar to the one the Nazis had in
Germany in 1939 if you were not a Jew, where 'certain people should not be
allowed to breed' :-((

"Ve haf vays ov making you obay"

WRONG

Mike


--
.................................................. .........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

"Dementor" wrote in message

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days,

PLONK

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:16:02 +1000, "A Plonker"
please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

"Dementor" wrote in message

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days,

PLONK

Thankee kindly, and in Capitals, too!

It's a singular honour which I shall forever treasure.

XX
___________________
Mentor.De

"Dementor" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

"Dementor" wrote in message

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days,

PLONK

Thankee kindly, and in Capitals, too!

Nym shifting turd! I can repeatedly PLONK you so keep up the nym
shifts and I'll just keep PLONKING you.

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:53:58 +1000, "Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow
wrote:

"Dementor" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

"Dementor" wrote in message

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days,

PLONK

Thankee kindly, and in Capitals, too!

Nym shifting turd! I can repeatedly PLONK you so keep up the nym
shifts and I'll just keep PLONKING you.

Will you stop that, darling, it tickles!

--

Mentor

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:41:43 +0100, D.Mentor
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:53:58 +1000, "Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow
wrote:

"Dementor" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

"Dementor" wrote in message

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days,

PLONK

Thankee kindly, and in Capitals, too!

Nym shifting turd! I can repeatedly PLONK you so keep up the nym
shifts and I'll just keep PLONKING you.

Will you stop that, darling, it tickles!

Follow-up

How wise of you to see at last the wisdom of the *silent plonk*.

To announce a "PLONK" is to legitimise and admit the existence of the
the plonkee.

In this instance, silence is golden.

Well done that Farmer.


El Mentore

In article , Dementor
writes

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

D.Mentor.



Quiet it might be, but it's questionable it will ever be as useful a
resource without the expertise and knowledge of Sacha, Judith, David and
Janet.

In all my correspondence with them over 5 years, I never experienced
anything but courtesy, helpfulness and friendship.

The newsgroup is not 'better', having had to be depleted due to the
actions of the few who seemed to take a joy in personal defamation and
an aggressive stance against anyone who questioned their gardening
advice.

There are those of us who have been quiet throughout the past few months
over events leading up to this (rightly or wrongly!) but that doesn't
mean to say that we see the departure of keen gardeners as anything but
regrettable.

May I take it by your use of the word 'coven' that you are assuming that
the participants were women and that men would never defend themselves
against personal attack?


--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk