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Old 07-03-2007, 10:07 AM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:03:48 +0000, "Pete (.¿.)"
A horrid insight, albeit clinical and staged, into the meat industry.
Now add the fact that there are billions of animals slaughtered
globally, in factory farmed conditions, nothing like the staged show
we have seen. Then we can wonder what kind of person can be involved
in that industry!


You and many others find modern meat production methods objectionable yes,
but think for a moment. The system in this country is strictly controlled
with laid down rules and conditions both for safe, wholesome meat production
and with consideration for minimal pain and suffering of the animals going
to slaughter. Government vets are in attendance at all markets and slaughter
houses, back street abattoirs have been closed down. Long gone are the days
when a pig/lamb would be fattened in every other back yard and slaughtered
by any Tom Dick or Harry that could wield a knife.

Me, I eat and enjoy eating meat, the flesh of other animals is what I thrive
on. I grew up with street celebrations around a home slaughtered pig. I have
killed my own creatures in my own backgarden (gardening content), prepared
them for the oven, and enjoyed eating them in the knowledge that they had a
decent life and a quick death, but no longer do so in line with modern
thinking.

I believe youngsters should know where their burgers and sausages come from,
and see no wrong in showing them, but am unable to comment on the content of
the show you refer to as I did not even know it was being shown.

I just noticed, you have sent your post to many other newsgroups, what
exactly is your objective?

Mike
www.farend.org.uk


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Old 07-03-2007, 11:31 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,uk.environment.conservation,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.politics.misc
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:07:04 -0000, "Muddymike"
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"Pete (.¿.)" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:03:48 +0000, "Pete (.¿.)"
A horrid insight, albeit clinical and staged, into the meat industry.
Now add the fact that there are billions of animals slaughtered
globally, in factory farmed conditions, nothing like the staged show
we have seen. Then we can wonder what kind of person can be involved
in that industry!


You and many others find modern meat production methods objectionable yes,


Horrendous even.

but think for a moment. The system in this country is strictly controlled
with laid down rules and conditions both for safe, wholesome meat production
and with consideration for minimal pain and suffering of the animals going
to slaughter.


Complete crap. To find anyone involved in the meat trade, that
actually cares about their victims is a rarity indeed. In fact by
definition, they couldn't do it if they cared!

Government vets are in attendance at all markets and slaughter
houses,


Rubbish.

back street abattoirs have been closed down. Long gone are the days
when a pig/lamb would be fattened in every other back yard and slaughtered
by any Tom Dick or Harry that could wield a knife.


Wrong again.

Me, I eat and enjoy eating meat, the flesh of other animals is what I thrive
on. I grew up with street celebrations around a home slaughtered pig. I have
killed my own creatures in my own backgarden (gardening content), prepared
them for the oven, and enjoyed eating them in the knowledge that they had a
decent life and a quick death, but no longer do so in line with modern
thinking.


Bully for you.


I believe youngsters should know where their burgers and sausages come from,
and see no wrong in showing them,


I'd say it should be compulsory.

but am unable to comment on the content of
the show you refer to as I did not even know it was being shown.


Interesting and worthwhile, but highly stage managed.

I just noticed, you have sent your post to many other newsgroups, what
exactly is your objective?


Why, do you think we should never talk to each other?

I noticed you snipped groups without asking out of courtesy? What
exactly are you up to?
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Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!




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Old 07-03-2007, 12:07 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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"Pete (.¿.)" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:03:48 +0000, "Pete (.¿.)"


Complete crap. To find anyone involved in the meat trade, that
actually cares about their victims is a rarity indeed. In fact by
definition, they couldn't do it if they cared!


As it happens I have a niece who spent 5 long years training as a vet and
who currently works for the government as a vet, spending many days at
livestock markets and abattoirs. She cares a lot about the conditions and
handling of livestock


Government vets are in attendance at all markets and slaughter
houses,


Rubbish.


See above, do your homework.


back street abattoirs have been closed down. Long gone are the days
when a pig/lamb would be fattened in every other back yard and slaughtered
by any Tom Dick or Harry that could wield a knife.


Wrong again.


Which part? I know the home slaughter part is not legal now in the UK, as it
was when I was a boy. It took a lot of searching for my wife and I to find
an abattoir to slaughter goat for us about 8 years ago.


Me, I eat and enjoy eating meat, the flesh of other animals is what I
thrive
on. I grew up with street celebrations around a home slaughtered pig. I
have
killed my own creatures in my own backgarden (gardening content), prepared
them for the oven, and enjoyed eating them in the knowledge that they had
a
decent life and a quick death, but no longer do so in line with modern
thinking.


Bully for you.


Yep Bullybeef is good too.



I believe youngsters should know where their burgers and sausages come
from,
and see no wrong in showing them,


I'd say it should be compulsory.

but am unable to comment on the content of
the show you refer to as I did not even know it was being shown.


Interesting and worthwhile, but highly stage managed.

I just noticed, you have sent your post to many other newsgroups, what
exactly is your objective?


Why, do you think we should never talk to each other?


No just wondering what your interest is in a gardening group other than a
forum for your own agenda.


I noticed you snipped groups without asking out of courtesy? What
exactly are you up to?
--


I reply only to the group to which I consider myself a member, unlike you I
have no interest in being read by folk with whom I have no known common
interest. As I do again now.


Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!


Converted to what exactly?

And finally I think your subject line should be;

Rear it, kill it, cook it, eat it.

Mike
www.farend.org.uk

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By the way what does (.¿.) mean?



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