"Kleopatra" wrote in message
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Here we are into November, and still I have flies buzzing round
strongly inside the house and wasps doing the flower rounds in the
garden....... (I plan to keep recording this as warm weather persists
into late autumn/winter, year after year, and insect activity remains
strong :)


Yes, isn't it weird? Huge bluebottle on my window only yesterday, and I
still have a very good display of roses (Staffordshire) that I am reluctant
to cut back yet.

I remember "when I wuz a girl" (.... being 40 yrs ago...!!!) we were often
into quite hard frosts on Bonfire Night, certainly many mornings. It was
"into the liberty bodice" for the next 4 months or so! (God, does anyone
else remember those things???) I've definitely noticed a considerable
difference in the winter weather.

Well..... they did promise us very wet summers and warm winters!

Barb UK

"Barb" wrote in message
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I remember "when I wuz a girl" (.... being 40 yrs ago...!!!)

Spring chicken then :-)

we were often into quite hard frosts on Bonfire Night, certainly many
mornings. It was "into the liberty bodice" for the next 4 months or so!
(God, does anyone else remember those things???)

Indeed I do. And I remember winter mornings so cold that my little fingers
couldn't fasten the rubber buttons. Why were there so many? And why were
they called *liberty* bodices when they were so binding? But we had one
small coal fire in the two bedroomed scullery back to back house, no central
heating, electric blankets or even a carpet on the floor. The fire was only
lit when it was really cold and in the winter of '47 my father walked with
the pram to get slack from the spoil heaps at the nearest pit, which was
about six miles away.

I've definitely noticed a considerable difference in the winter weather.

Well..... they did promise us very wet summers and warm winters!

It's not good, is it! I'm sure that luxuries such as central heating has an
effect in keeping at least the cities warmer. I've noticed that our
daughter's fam in deepest Wales isn't anything like as warm as it is here in
inner city Leeds. We haven't had a frost since January.

Mary

Mary Fisher writes


Indeed I do. And I remember winter mornings so cold that my little fingers
couldn't fasten the rubber buttons. Why were there so many? And why were
they called *liberty* bodices when they were so binding?

I thought it was because they were a lot less binding than the corsets
they replaced?

--
Kay

"K" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher writes


Indeed I do. And I remember winter mornings so cold that my little fingers
couldn't fasten the rubber buttons. Why were there so many? And why were
they called *liberty* bodices when they were so binding?

I thought it was because they were a lot less binding than the corsets
they replaced?

Did children wear corsets in the thirties?

Mary

--
Kay

It would be interesting to be able to compare what is happening now with what happened in the medieval warming period (circa 1100AD) or even the Roman warming period at about 200AD but I suspect such things were not recorded in those days as they would not have been particularly important to them.

Mary Fisher writes

"K" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher writes


Indeed I do. And I remember winter mornings so cold that my little fingers
couldn't fasten the rubber buttons. Why were there so many? And why were
they called *liberty* bodices when they were so binding?

I thought it was because they were a lot less binding than the corsets
they replaced?

Did children wear corsets in the thirties?

No idea, wasn't around then!

But the Liberty bodice seems to date from 1908
--
Kay

Did children wear corsets in the thirties?

They were invented in 1908.
http://www.contourandcream.co.uk/corsets.htm
Liberty Bodice introduced - this was worn by many children until the 1950s
and
was produced until 1974. The idea for the bodice came from Frederick Cox,
and
his daughter, Freda Cox, became the first model for the marketing
campaign. The
original rubber buttons came from Market Harborough's Harboro' Rubber
Co. -
still a successful industry today.
--

Martin

Live in Harborough, the Rubber company have just sold their old original
premesis and moved, most of its been knocked down apart from the original
listed mill from when it was called Danite Mills.

They were invented in 1908.
http://www.contourandcream.co.uk/corsets.htm
Liberty Bodice introduced - this was worn by many children until the 1950s
and
was produced until 1974. The idea for the bodice came from Frederick Cox,
and
his daughter, Freda Cox, became the first model for the marketing
campaign. The
original rubber buttons came from Market Harborough's Harboro' Rubber
Co. -
still a successful industry today.
--

Martin


I always wanted a proper one, nagged and nagged about it, and ended up with
a plain old vest! not impressed!!

On 6/11/07 18:12, in article ,
"Barb" wrote:


"Kleopatra" wrote in message
ps.com...
Here we are into November, and still I have flies buzzing round
strongly inside the house and wasps doing the flower rounds in the
garden....... (I plan to keep recording this as warm weather persists
into late autumn/winter, year after year, and insect activity remains
strong :)


Yes, isn't it weird? Huge bluebottle on my window only yesterday, and I
still have a very good display of roses (Staffordshire) that I am reluctant
to cut back yet.

Flies and bluebottles are a nuisance, bees coming into open windows are a
regular occurrence atm. Saw a hornet the other day.

snip
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'