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I've just been pointed at a US-style zone map of the British Isles. I
hadn't seen this before, and as zone information is often cited, thought
it might be useful.

http://www.trebrown.com/hrdzone.html

YMMV of course, and clearly it is difficult to talk about zones with much
sense in the UK.

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Emery Davis writes:
| I've just been pointed at a US-style zone map of the British Isles. I
| hadn't seen this before, and as zone information is often cited, thought
| it might be useful.
|
| http://www.trebrown.com/hrdzone.html
|
| YMMV of course, and clearly it is difficult to talk about zones with much
| sense in the UK.

As, indeed, that page explains. Or does, partially.

Its statement "The noticeable differences are to be seen in our zones
10a & 9b" is quite simply hogwash. They apply to all of the country.
According to that, Cambridge is in zone 8b, but we cannot grow most of
the plants that are hardy in zone 8a but not in zone 7b in the USA!

It also considerably understates the reasons for the difference.


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I've just been pointed at a US-style zone map of the British Isles. I
hadn't seen this before, and as zone information is often cited, thought
it might be useful.

http://www.trebrown.com/hrdzone.html

YMMV of course, and clearly it is difficult to talk about zones with much
sense in the UK.


And bearing in mind we have 'weather' any talk of 'zones' is idiotic.


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"Alan Holmes" writes:
| "Emery Davis" wrote in message
| ...
|
| YMMV of course, and clearly it is difficult to talk about zones with much
| sense in the UK.
|
| And bearing in mind we have 'weather' any talk of 'zones' is idiotic.

Yes and no. Using USDA zones is, I agree. But there are some easy
and meaningful hardiness zones in the UK, such as:

The Scilly Isles, the Channel Islands, the south-western tip of
Cornwall, the south of the Isle of Wight, and much of Torquay.

Much of the western coast, much of Cornwall, most of the southern
coast, and central London.

Further inland on the west, especially as you head south, much of
south Wales, most of the West Country, further inland on the south,
most of London, and a little of the eastern coast.

Most of the rest of the low ground to the west and south, further
inland on the east, and some of the higher ground to the west.

All of the rest of the low ground in England, Wales, and the Lowlands,
including all of the south, and some of the higher ground to the west.

The higher ground of the north of England, Wales, and western and
southern Scotland.

The eastern Highlands, high ground elsewhere in the Highlands and
the peaks in England and Wales.

The peaks in the Highlands.

[ I believe that is roughly correct ]

While that corresponds very closely with the USDA zones, the plants
that will overwinter in each one bear little relationship to the
plants that will overwinter in the 'equivalent' parts of the USA
or other places with continental climates.



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Nick Maclaren.

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