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I have lifted this from another thread on this newsgroup and ask a question
after it. .................................................. .................................................. ................. ""actually in area where they are dependent on pumping stations to get them water, that might not be too silly. What use dry foods when there is no water at the tap and no one has come round with standpipes? You'd probably need to have both dried and tinned foods, and a few spare water containers Jim Webster "" .................................................. .................................................. ................... Most of the readers of this newsgroup will have water butts, we have 8 and they are full. Question. Considering they have creepy crawlies in them at certain times of the year, (I haven't been out to see if there are any now) how can the water be made fit for drinking in an emergency? Mike -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
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On 10 Jan, 09:19, "'Mike'" wrote:
Question. Considering they have creepy crawlies in them at certain times of the year, (I haven't been out to see if there are any now) how can the water be made fit for drinking in an emergency? You boil it first?! |
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"Broadback" wrote in message ... wrote: On 10 Jan, 09:19, "'Mike'" wrote: Question. Considering they have creepy crawlies in them at certain times of the year, (I haven't been out to see if there are any now) how can the water be made fit for drinking in an emergency? You boil it first?! You can buy flasks that filter water, maintained to be 100% efficient in getting rid of nasties. I have seen a demonstration where water was taken from a foul ditch, filtered and then drank. Not by me I hasten to add. Is this the same as those things you can buy for the kitchen? :-((( We have one of those things in the fridge and my wife did start to use it for the kettle to 'stop it furring up'. Made a dreadful cup of tea. Very very bitter to such a degree that I stopped drinking tea :-(( Mike -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
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"Broadback" wrote in message ... wrote: On 10 Jan, 09:19, "'Mike'" wrote: Question. Considering they have creepy crawlies in them at certain times of the year, (I haven't been out to see if there are any now) how can the water be made fit for drinking in an emergency? You boil it first?! You can buy flasks that filter water, maintained to be 100% efficient in getting rid of nasties. I have seen a demonstration where water was taken from a foul ditch, filtered and then drank. Not by me I hasten to add. Is this the same as those things you can buy for the kitchen? :-((( We have one of those things in the fridge and my wife did start to use it for the kettle to 'stop it furring up'. Made a dreadful cup of tea. Very very bitter to such a degree that I stopped drinking tea :-(( Mike I think they are different. The water filter you mention is to remove hardness or other dissolved minerals. Usually by activated carbon which absorbs chemicals from the water onto it's surface. The filter used to remove nasties from the foul ditch I would guess probably has multi layers of filters (as in sieves) or ever smaller size. If the smallest can filter out bacteria then the water should be free of harmful organisms. If this method was combined with the activated charcoal filter then dissolved minerals could also be removed. -- David in Normandy |
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"David in Normandy" wrote in message ... 'Mike' says... "Broadback" wrote in message ... wrote: On 10 Jan, 09:19, "'Mike'" wrote: Question. Considering they have creepy crawlies in them at certain times of the year, (I haven't been out to see if there are any now) how can the water be made fit for drinking in an emergency? You boil it first?! You can buy flasks that filter water, maintained to be 100% efficient in getting rid of nasties. I have seen a demonstration where water was taken from a foul ditch, filtered and then drank. Not by me I hasten to add. Is this the same as those things you can buy for the kitchen? :-((( We have one of those things in the fridge and my wife did start to use it for the kettle to 'stop it furring up'. Made a dreadful cup of tea. Very very bitter to such a degree that I stopped drinking tea :-(( Mike I think they are different. The water filter you mention is to remove hardness or other dissolved minerals. Usually by activated carbon which absorbs chemicals from the water onto it's surface. The filter used to remove nasties from the foul ditch I would guess probably has multi layers of filters (as in sieves) or ever smaller size. If the smallest can filter out bacteria then the water should be free of harmful organisms. If this method was combined with the activated charcoal filter then dissolved minerals could also be removed. -- David in Normandy Now that sounds good, therefore, every home should have one! ?? Mike -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
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On 10 Jan, 12:11, "'Mike'" wrote:
[[water filteters]] Is this the same as those things you can buy for the kitchen? :-((( More like the ones people buy to go wilderness camping. http://www.princeton.edu/~oa/manual/water.shtml http://www.waterfilterdude.com/water-purify.shtml http://www.msrgear.com/watertreatment/index.asp are what I am thinking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_filtration makes interesting reading |
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On 10 Jan, 11:13, Broadback wrote:
You can buy flasks that filter water, maintained to be 100% efficient in getting rid of nasties. I have seen a demonstration where water was taken from a foul ditch, filtered and then drank. *Not by me I hasten to add. Wasn't it Ray Mears who drank his own pee after using a cleaning filter gizmo? I feel using chemicals, tablets and whatnots is so contradictory after recycling water. Same with the Brita filter jugs - we have one in the office and I can't remember the last time we've changed the filter. I've never drank from it - even using electric kettle took me years and even now it taste like plastic. I would boil water from a saucepan. Now I use a kettle straight onto the gaz ring. |
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wrote in message ... On 10 Jan, 11:13, Broadback wrote: You can buy flasks that filter water, maintained to be 100% efficient in getting rid of nasties. I have seen a demonstration where water was taken from a foul ditch, filtered and then drank. Not by me I hasten to add. Wasn't it Ray Mears who drank his own pee after using a cleaning filter gizmo? I feel using chemicals, tablets and whatnots is so contradictory after recycling water. Same with the Brita filter jugs - we have one in the office and I can't remember the last time we've changed the filter. I've never drank from it - even using electric kettle took me years and even now it taste like plastic. I would boil water from a saucepan. Now I use a kettle straight onto the gaz ring. .................................................. .................. Brita Filter Jug. That's the thing. Dreadful, made the tea taste 'orrible :-(((( Mike -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
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says... I have lifted this from another thread on this newsgroup and ask a question after it. .................................................. .................................................. ................ ""actually in area where they are dependent on pumping stations to get them water, that might not be too silly. What use dry foods when there is no water at the tap and no one has come round with standpipes? You'd probably need to have both dried and tinned foods, and a few spare water containers Jim Webster "" .................................................. .................................................. .................. Most of the readers of this newsgroup will have water butts, we have 8 and they are full. Question. Considering they have creepy crawlies in them at certain times of the year, (I haven't been out to see if there are any now) how can the water be made fit for drinking in an emergency? Mike There are 4 methods you could use. Boil it Brew beer or similar with it, that was the method widely used in Europe in the distant past and the reason why we generally have a higher tolerance to alcohol than eastern races who were smart enough to boil theirs! Filter it, which is basically why spring water is usually ok as it is filtered by the ground it passes through Treat it chemically which makes it safe but taste disgusting! although ship board water was usually treated with silver and tasted fine. But if your water buts had a closed lid and it was an emergency I would drink it straight -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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On 2008-01-10 13:36:16 +0000, Charlie Pridham
said: In article , says... I have lifted this from another thread on this newsgroup and ask a question after it. .................................................. .................................................. ................ ""actually in area where they are dependent on pumping stations to get them water, that might not be too silly. What use dry foods when there is no water at the tap and no one has come round with standpipes? You'd probably need to have both dried and tinned foods, and a few spare water containers Jim Webster "" .................................................. .................................................. .................. Most of the readers of this newsgroup will have water butts, we have 8 and they are full. Question. Considering they have creepy crawlies in them at certain times of the year, (I haven't been out to see if there are any now) how can the water be made fit for drinking in an emergency? Mike There are 4 methods you could use. Boil it Brew beer or similar with it, that was the method widely used in Europe in the distant past and the reason why we generally have a higher tolerance to alcohol than eastern races who were smart enough to boil theirs! Filter it, which is basically why spring water is usually ok as it is filtered by the ground it passes through Treat it chemically which makes it safe but taste disgusting! although ship board water was usually treated with silver and tasted fine. But if your water buts had a closed lid and it was an emergency I would drink it straight Sewage treatment plants use a combination of mechanical filters, biological filters, ultra violet light purification chambers and chemicals... as do filtration systems for ornamental ponds. Something like the Cyprio EasyClear combines multiple water purification processes in a single unit for small ponds and might work in a water butt which wasn't used very often (biological filters need time to work). http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Manufact...oze_Easyclear/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainwat...nd_maintenance The trouble with roof run-off is that it takes in all manner of impurities and contaminants after it has fallen and before it reaches the water butt simply by flowing down across lead flashing and through bird lime, etc. So if an emergency drinking water supply is needed, you would be better off colecting rainwater straight from the sky in a plastic sheet. |
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