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Save Jims Allotment
The following story, regarding my Father-in-law is quite a tale.
Please view our website and if like us you feel that Jim deserves to win this fight please feel welcome to write to us or post a message on our forum, or sign our petition (links on our website) Here is a brief resume of the story. Jim is 76 and an avid gardener, he has been providing fruit, veg and eggs for family and friends most of his life. Since the passing away of his beloved wife 2 years ago, Jim has found comfort in his allotment, spending every day immersed in his only interest, gardening. Early last year Jim applied to his parish council for permission to place a small polly tunnel on his beloved plot, thus enabling him to bring on seeds early and allow him the luxury of more hours in the colder months. The parish council denied his request, At the next PC meeting Jim questioned about why, they failed to give him an acceptable reason, Jim pressed for an answer again, the PC chairman stated the reason being was they dont like poly tunnels and were in fact blatantly rude to him telling Jim (like a naughty schoolboy) to shut up sit down or get out. Now from a planning point of view Jim didnt actually need their permission, as a 12x13 Polly tunnel is below the minimum size, + a poly tunnel is a modern day green house and can be as important to any gardener / allotmenteer as a fork and hoe, it is infact another tool. Upon recommendation from the solicitor for the NSALG.Ltd (National Society of Allotments and Leisure Gardeners) Jim built his plastic covered green house. All Jim wanted was to open dialogue, and receive an acceptable reason for the refusal plus, now combined with an apology from the PC for the humiliating treatment, of him, in front of others at the meeting. This has now become a saga of intimidation, bullying, and contradictions by the parish council and at the last meeting of this week Jim has been told he must give up his allotment. Please read Jims story and send your letters or emails in to support him, we desperately need help to crush these bullies. We are in the process of building a website displaying the full truth behind this unhappy story, it contains evidence and correspondence to date, and if the full truth be known it will show this PC to be nothing more than dictators who relish their power on others, why? Because they can. See The TV interview here http://www.itvlocal.com/westcountry/news/? player=WCT_News_15&void=188799 Then Read the truth here www.savejimsallotment.co.uk. Thank you with all our hearts Regards Phil and Suzanne and family |
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Save Jims Allotment
Don't know who put the website together for you but it has a lot of
mistakes including spelling and the pictures don't come up. i think you'd get more support if people could see the actual structure etc. and also read the story on the front page. Janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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Save Jims Allotment
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... Don't know who put the website together for you but it has a lot of mistakes including spelling and the pictures don't come up. i think you'd get more support if people could see the actual structure etc. and also read the story on the front page. I think it is more the case that if you saw the actual structure - any support would melt away ! Sceptical about the whole "sad" story. Regards Pete www.thecanalshop.com |
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Save Jims Allotment
"Sacha" wrote in message ... I think it is more the case that if you saw the actual structure - any support would melt away ! Sceptical about the whole "sad" story. Regards Pete www.thecanalshop.com I'd hate to think of someone of 76 being chucked off their allotment, so I really hope it doesn't come to that. But what is going to be difficult to argue against is that he signed up to abide by the rules of that particular allotment society. ;-( I'm assuming the PC think that if they allow one person to have a plastic tunnel, everyone will be entitled to one and they're not the prettiest things to see if you happen to overlook them. Perhaps allotmenteers here will tell us what they're allowed to do on their plots. I'll have to go and have a look at our local allotments but I don't think there are any tunnels or glasshouses there, though there are some sheds. BTW, I can't open the second row of photos, which includes one of the tunnel. -- BTW ---Same here ! I can't make out what those posts on the first row are doing either. Regards Pete www.thecanalshop.com |
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Save Jims Allotment
In article , Anne Jackson
writes The message from Janet Tweedy contains these words: Don't know who put the website together for you but it has a lot of mistakes including spelling and the pictures don't come up. i think you'd get more support if people could see the actual structure etc. and also read the story on the front page. I have no problem seeing the photos, Janet - but had a problem when I tried to re-enter the site. I saw the initial photos but the final lot were not being called up from wherever they are stored. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... In article , Anne Jackson writes The message from Janet Tweedy contains these words: Don't know who put the website together for you but it has a lot of mistakes including spelling and the pictures don't come up. i think you'd get more support if people could see the actual structure etc. and also read the story on the front page. I have no problem seeing the photos, Janet - but had a problem when I tried to re-enter the site. I saw the initial photos but the final lot were not being called up from wherever they are stored. Wrote Anne I could have sworn that there was a photo of the actual 'structure' in there, first time I looked, but can't see it any longer - has someone removed it recently? No - it is just a bit hidden Try http://allotment5andahalf.wordpress..../filmcrew0054/ The final lot seem to be there now. Regards Pete www.thecanalshop.com |
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On 31/5/08 21:14, in article , "Pete
Stockdale" wrote: "Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... In article , Anne Jackson writes The message from Janet Tweedy contains these words: Don't know who put the website together for you but it has a lot of mistakes including spelling and the pictures don't come up. i think you'd get more support if people could see the actual structure etc. and also read the story on the front page. I have no problem seeing the photos, Janet - but had a problem when I tried to re-enter the site. I saw the initial photos but the final lot were not being called up from wherever they are stored. Wrote Anne I could have sworn that there was a photo of the actual 'structure' in there, first time I looked, but can't see it any longer - has someone removed it recently? No - it is just a bit hidden Try http://allotment5andahalf.wordpress..../filmcrew0054/ The final lot seem to be there now. I see a film crew, some fairly unidentifiable construction/s and not much else. I do not see a polytunnel. There is a question that I'd like to ask about this dispute. Do any houses overlook the allotments? I'm just wondering if the rule against greenhouses or polytunnels was made so as not to spoil a view? -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 31/5/08 21:14, in article , "Pete Stockdale" wrote: "Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... In article , Anne Jackson writes The message from Janet Tweedy contains these words: Don't know who put the website together for you but it has a lot of mistakes including spelling and the pictures don't come up. i think you'd get more support if people could see the actual structure etc. and also read the story on the front page. I have no problem seeing the photos, Janet - but had a problem when I tried to re-enter the site. I saw the initial photos but the final lot were not being called up from wherever they are stored. Wrote Anne I could have sworn that there was a photo of the actual 'structure' in there, first time I looked, but can't see it any longer - has someone removed it recently? No - it is just a bit hidden Try http://allotment5andahalf.wordpress..../filmcrew0054/ The final lot seem to be there now. I see a film crew, some fairly unidentifiable construction/s and not much else. I do not see a polytunnel. There is a question that I'd like to ask about this dispute. Do any houses overlook the allotments? I'm just wondering if the rule against greenhouses or polytunnels was made so as not to spoil a view? -- Interesting questions ! I would like to ask what is the function of the posts in the top line of photos ? http://www.savejimsallotment.co.uk/i...7thoct_006.jpg Everything straight and even umm ? too ! Regards Pete www.thecananshop.com |
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Save Jims Allotment
On 30 May, 07:48, "
wrote: We are in the process of building a website displaying the full truth behind this unhappy story, it contains evidence and correspondence to date, and if the full truth be known it will show this PC to be nothing more than dictators who relish their power on others, why? Because they can. You all must have been very unhappy at the decision of the committee and I've seen for many many years similar reactions when it comes to decisions like these. It is indeed sad that Jim wasn't granted permission but this shouldn't stop him carrying on gardening, growing his vegs and enjoying the allotment life which is a life line to many but also a refuge and a wonderful place to spend time with family/ friends. On my allotment the same rules apply. Any structures built must have planning permission - it has nothing to do with 'beauty', nor who will see it from nearby housing, it is to do with safety, height and a rule for all on the allotment. Shading is a factor too if you share a 10 rods, and built in between two sharing plots. The shade from the structure will reduce the growing space for the other etc. You are right in saying that if permission is given to one, then everybody will built all sorts of dangerous structures hence we now leave it to the planning dept, with the committee comments, to decide. With today's insurances and liability the allotment must make sure that it is safe for all. On this basis, which has nothing to do with personnality, if the structure to start with has no application with a rough design with height and width clearly mentioned, material used and position of the new structure, the permission to built will not be granted. It has happened to us last year - it was a nasty saga, but in the end the allotmenteer removed tons of materials, which included bricks, concrete flags, a cement mixer ...! and various sizes of glass panes, poles, planks etc which he had salvaged from skips over many month. In the end he had no space to grow anything and clearly he had no clue about where to start building his structure and to what purpose. He has now a little shed like everyone else, but we haven't seen him much. I think building was his thing, rather than growing! |
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Hi Sacha
Couple of points you bought up....first the allotment is only overlooked by one house, owned by another allotmenteer who has no probs with the now plastic greenhouse and also in fac signed the petition in support of my father last year. The other point,,,, the new rule, we discovered...was bought in strictly against my father, no other reason. There had been no rules since 1930!!! Hope this helps Thanks for your interest Sacha wrote: On 31/5/08 21:14, in article , "Pete Stockdale" wrote: "Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... In article , Anne Jackson writes The message from Janet Tweedy contains these words: Don't know who put the website together for you but it has a lot of mistakes including spelling and the pictures don't come up. i think you'd get more support if people could see the actual structure etc. and also read the story on the front page. I have no problem seeing the photos, Janet - but had a problem when I tried to re-enter the site. I saw the initial photos but the final lot were not being called up from wherever they are stored. Wrote Anne I could have sworn that there was a photo of the actual 'structure' in there, first time I looked, but can't see it any longer - has someone removed it recently? No - it is just a bit hidden Try http://allotment5andahalf.wordpress..../filmcrew0054/ The final lot seem to be there now. I see a film crew, some fairly unidentifiable construction/s and not much else. I do not see a polytunnel. There is a question that I'd like to ask about this dispute. Do any houses overlook the allotments? I'm just wondering if the rule against greenhouses or polytunnels was made so as not to spoil a view? -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On 9/6/08 21:34, in article
, " wrote: Hi Sacha Couple of points you bought up....first the allotment is only overlooked by one house, owned by another allotmenteer who has no probs with the now plastic greenhouse and also in fac signed the petition in support of my father last year. The other point,,,, the new rule, we discovered...was bought in strictly against my father, no other reason. There had been no rules since 1930!!! snip But the PCC states that he signed up to a rule that already existed, if I understand them correctly. If that isn't so, I should think they're dead in the water! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking to do!) |
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