In another thread I expressed concern about the welfare of a couple of
clematis I planted last year. Thanks to various advices here I'm
becoming quietly confident that they'll be ok but their roots are only
12 inches away from those of a rampant honeysuckle, which, if the
clematis pans out, as hoped, will be superfluous even threatening.

More to the point, I've noticed also that another clematis which I'd
like to encourage has popped up almost immediately adjacent to the
honeysuckle. I think this must have been planted some time ago and
perhaps gave up temporarily in a drought last year.

So, what to do with the honeysuckle. I'd like to dig it out but I'm
wondering about the size of the root and the task of removing it -
particularly now that little clematis is just next door .

What advice? Can I just keep trimming it back once a week, or so?

Would the honeysuckle's root system continue to burgeon under this
regime or would it be an effective way of keeping things stable
without developing further.

Thanks for any help.

In article , bob says...
In another thread I expressed concern about the welfare of a couple of
clematis I planted last year. Thanks to various advices here I'm
becoming quietly confident that they'll be ok but their roots are only
12 inches away from those of a rampant honeysuckle, which, if the
clematis pans out, as hoped, will be superfluous even threatening.

More to the point, I've noticed also that another clematis which I'd
like to encourage has popped up almost immediately adjacent to the
honeysuckle. I think this must have been planted some time ago and
perhaps gave up temporarily in a drought last year.

So, what to do with the honeysuckle. I'd like to dig it out but I'm
wondering about the size of the root and the task of removing it -
particularly now that little clematis is just next door .

What advice? Can I just keep trimming it back once a week, or so?

Would the honeysuckle's root system continue to burgeon under this
regime or would it be an effective way of keeping things stable
without developing further.

Thanks for any help.


Do you know what sort of honeysuckle it is?, they can be hard pruned each
year but the timing varies occording to species
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:05:42 +0100, Charlie Pridham
wrote:

Do you know what sort of honeysuckle it is?, they can be hard pruned each
year but the timing varies occording to species

No idea at all.

In fact, I have to go away for a week tomorrow and didn't relish the
prospect of having to unravel it from the clematis on return so I've
taken the initiative and cut it to the ground anyway (there's more
honeysuckle only a metre away).

To be honest, I'd like to remove it.

On Wed, 13 May 2009 15:03:03 +0200, bob wrote:


To be honest, I'd like to remove it.

Did you leave enough stem to fit a condom? If so you could try neat
Roundup in one of Mr Durex's best. Ammonium sulphamate is alleged to be
good at stump-killing and breaks down into a fertiliser.

On 13 May 2009 14:52:30 GMT, Derek Turner wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 15:03:03 +0200, bob wrote:


To be honest, I'd like to remove it.

Did you leave enough stem to fit a condom? If so you could try neat
Roundup in one of Mr Durex's best. Ammonium sulphamate is alleged to be
good at stump-killing and breaks down into a fertiliser.

That's a clever idea.

I don't mean to turn it into a sexual metaphor but aren't there some
risks? I mean the stem isn't exactly smooth, so might there not be
some seepage. Or maybe I haven't understood the modus operandi?

On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:49:59 +0200, bob wrote:


That's a clever idea.

I don't mean to turn it into a sexual metaphor but aren't there some
risks? I mean the stem isn't exactly smooth, so might there not be some
seepage. Or maybe I haven't understood the modus operandi?

AIUI you just paint the Roundup on the cut surface thickly and use the
johnny to stop it drying out or being washed off - you don't have to fill
the thing! (As the actress said to the bishop).

On 13 May 2009 18:42:10 GMT, Derek Turner wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:49:59 +0200, bob wrote:


That's a clever idea.

I don't mean to turn it into a sexual metaphor but aren't there some
risks? I mean the stem isn't exactly smooth, so might there not be some
seepage. Or maybe I haven't understood the modus operandi?

AIUI you just paint the Roundup on the cut surface thickly and use the
johnny to stop it drying out or being washed off - you don't have to fill
the thing! (As the actress said to the bishop).

lol! ok, got it. Sorry, novice gardener here so never used any such
thing (the roundup, I mean). I guess the stuff must be thick and
treacly or jammy?

You don't think there'd be any danger to the clematis root which is
only 10 cms away?

What about the ammonium sulphamate you mentioned? Is that roundup but
without the branding?

On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:28:06 +0200, bob wrote:


lol! ok, got it. Sorry, novice gardener here so never used any such
thing (the roundup, I mean). I guess the stuff must be thick and
treacly or jammy?

You don't think there'd be any danger to the clematis root which is only
10 cms away?

If a single drop hits it then yes, neat roundup is in texture like non-
gel gloss paint - a little thicker than water but no thicker than blood!.
Roundup is neutralised on contact with soil, the johnny should stop it
splashing.

What about the ammonium sulphamate you mentioned? Is that roundup but
without the branding?

No roundup is glyphosate (JFGI). Ammonium sulphamate is sold as a stump
killer and degrades to ammonium sulphate (I think) which is an inorganic
fertilizer. I am open to correction on this as I've never used it. Anyone?

On 2009-05-13 19:42:10 +0100, Derek Turner said:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:49:59 +0200, bob wrote:


That's a clever idea.

I don't mean to turn it into a sexual metaphor but aren't there some
risks? I mean the stem isn't exactly smooth, so might there not be some
seepage. Or maybe I haven't understood the modus operandi?

AIUI you just paint the Roundup on the cut surface thickly and use the
johnny to stop it drying out or being washed off - you don't have to fill
the thing! (As the actress said to the bishop).

I suppose a small sandwich bag would do the same job......... ;-))
--
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon

On May 13, 10:40*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-05-13 19:42:10 +0100, Derek Turner said:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:49:59 +0200, bob wrote:

That's a clever idea.

I don't mean to turn it into a sexual metaphor but aren't there some
risks? *I mean the stem isn't exactly smooth, so might there not be some
seepage. *Or maybe I haven't understood the modus operandi?

AIUI you just paint the Roundup on the cut surface thickly and use the
johnny to stop it drying out or being washed off - you don't have to fill
the thing! (As the actress said to the bishop).

I suppose a small sandwich bag would do the same job......... * ;-))
--
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon

Eh, 'scuse me; that's patented.

Judith

On 13 May 2009 20:27:31 GMT, Derek Turner wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:28:06 +0200, bob wrote:


lol! ok, got it. Sorry, novice gardener here so never used any such
thing (the roundup, I mean). I guess the stuff must be thick and
treacly or jammy?

You don't think there'd be any danger to the clematis root which is only
10 cms away?

If a single drop hits it then yes, neat roundup is in texture like non-
gel gloss paint - a little thicker than water but no thicker than blood!.
Roundup is neutralised on contact with soil, the johnny should stop it
splashing.

What about the ammonium sulphamate you mentioned? Is that roundup but
without the branding?

No roundup is glyphosate (JFGI). Ammonium sulphamate is sold as a stump
killer and degrades to ammonium sulphate (I think) which is an inorganic
fertilizer. I am open to correction on this as I've never used it. Anyone?

Much obliged for that.

On 2009-05-13 22:44:38 +0100, Judith in France
said:

On May 13, 10:40*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-05-13 19:42:10 +0100, Derek Turner said:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:49:59 +0200, bob wrote:

That's a clever idea.

I don't mean to turn it into a sexual metaphor but aren't there some
risks? *I mean the stem isn't exactly smooth, so might there not be
some
seepage. *Or maybe I haven't understood the modus operandi?

AIUI you just paint the Roundup on the cut surface thickly and use the
johnny to stop it drying out or being washed off - you don't have to fi
ll
the thing! (As the actress said to the bishop).

I suppose a small sandwich bag would do the same job......... * ;-))
--
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon

Eh, 'scuse me; that's patented.

Judith

Whoops, sorry! Bit like your patent for gold wellies. ;-)
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--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon