Fellow allotmenter gave me some seaweed stuff diluted ready to go on
the plants. Just spray it on he says.

Suspect the container I put the seaweed spray in wasn't really
clean...
hmmm... got some very dead looking potato plants and runner beans.
hmmmmm

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mogga wrote:
Fellow allotmenter gave me some seaweed stuff diluted ready to go on
the plants. Just spray it on he says.

Suspect the container I put the seaweed spray in wasn't really
clean...
hmmm... got some very dead looking potato plants and runner beans.
hmmmmm


Sounds like the old seaweed and glyphosate special. Ouch! You don't
think he did it on purpose do you? There are some strange people about.
While most gardeners tend to be mutually supportive, or even a little
competitive, some can take things a little too far.

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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:06:14 +0200, David in Normandy
wrote:

mogga wrote:
Fellow allotmenter gave me some seaweed stuff diluted ready to go on
the plants. Just spray it on he says.

Suspect the container I put the seaweed spray in wasn't really
clean...
hmmm... got some very dead looking potato plants and runner beans.
hmmmmm


Sounds like the old seaweed and glyphosate special. Ouch! You don't
think he did it on purpose do you? There are some strange people about.
While most gardeners tend to be mutually supportive, or even a little
competitive, some can take things a little too far.


Nah I mostly suspect it was already in my plant sprayer which we
inherited when we took over the plot ... although if it was they
never used it on the ground as we had some antique weeds growing..

The plot has changed hands a lot though - no one stops long on it
apparently...

So can I still eat the spuds if it's glycowhatsit or other
plantkiller? Is it worth digging them up?

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mogga wrote:

So can I still eat the spuds if it's glycowhatsit or other
plantkiller? Is it worth digging them up?


Can't give a definitive answer. The ultra safe answer is not to eat them
and dig them up for the compost heap. However, I've eaten some potatoes
from plants that had a "glancing blow" while spraying weeds alongside.
The plants survived but were poorly for a while. The potatoes themselves
looked superficially ok and tasted normal, but I noticed they did not
keep well.

However, you can't be sure it was glyphosate or something more
obnoxious? On that basis I wouldn't eat them and just compost them.

The normal practice is to keep different sprayers. One specifically for
weedkillers. Alternatively, to always thoroughly wash out after using
a weedkiller.

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David in Normandy wrote:
mogga wrote:

So can I still eat the spuds if it's glycowhatsit or other
plantkiller? Is it worth digging them up?


Can't give a definitive answer. The ultra safe answer is not to eat them
and dig them up for the compost heap. However, I've eaten some potatoes
from plants that had a "glancing blow" while spraying weeds alongside.
The plants survived but were poorly for a while. The potatoes themselves
looked superficially ok and tasted normal, but I noticed they did not
keep well.

However, you can't be sure it was glyphosate or something more
obnoxious? On that basis I wouldn't eat them and just compost them.

The normal practice is to keep different sprayers. One specifically for
weedkillers. Alternatively, to always thoroughly wash out after using a
weedkiller.


Better still, give up using chemicals and pesticides. Go Green, go
organic. So much better for you and the environment.
I have a large garden, and a my husband has a good sized vegetable
garden, we don't use any chemicals. The veg are doing well and so are
the flower beds.

Bobbie

Bobbie wrote:
David in Normandy wrote:

Better still, give up using chemicals and pesticides. Go Green, go
organic. So much better for you and the environment.
I have a large garden, and a my husband has a good sized vegetable
garden, we don't use any chemicals. The veg are doing well and so are
the flower beds.


What do you use to prevent / cure rust on the onion family? My chives
seem very prone to attack at this time of year. Similarly how do you
prevent / cure blight on potatoes and tomatoes?

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David in Normandy wrote:
mogga wrote:

So can I still eat the spuds if it's glycowhatsit or other
plantkiller? Is it worth digging them up?


Can't give a definitive answer. The ultra safe answer is not to eat them
and dig them up for the compost heap. However, I've eaten some potatoes
from plants that had a "glancing blow" while spraying weeds alongside.
The plants survived but were poorly for a while. The potatoes themselves
looked superficially ok and tasted normal, but I noticed they did not
keep well.

However, you can't be sure it was glyphosate or something more obnoxious?
On that basis I wouldn't eat them and just compost them.

The normal practice is to keep different sprayers. One specifically for
weedkillers. Alternatively, to always thoroughly wash out after using a
weedkiller.


Better still, give up using chemicals and pesticides. Go Green, go
organic. So much better for you and the environment.
I have a large garden, and a my husband has a good sized vegetable garden,
we don't use any chemicals. The veg are doing well and so are the flower
beds.

Bobbie

Water is a chemical. I hope you haven't given up using that ;-)

"Bobbie" wrote...
David in Normandy wrote:
mogga wrote:

So can I still eat the spuds if it's glycowhatsit or other
plantkiller? Is it worth digging them up?


Can't give a definitive answer. The ultra safe answer is not to eat them
and dig them up for the compost heap. However, I've eaten some potatoes
from plants that had a "glancing blow" while spraying weeds alongside.
The plants survived but were poorly for a while. The potatoes themselves
looked superficially ok and tasted normal, but I noticed they did not
keep well.

However, you can't be sure it was glyphosate or something more obnoxious?
On that basis I wouldn't eat them and just compost them.

The normal practice is to keep different sprayers. One specifically for
weedkillers. Alternatively, to always thoroughly wash out after using a
weedkiller.


Better still, give up using chemicals and pesticides. Go Green, go
organic. So much better for you and the environment.
I have a large garden, and a my husband has a good sized vegetable garden,
we don't use any chemicals. The veg are doing well and so are the flower
beds.

In most cases much, much easier to do in a back garden than an allotment!
Totally different type of environment.

We would love to grow totally without chemicals but it would mean giving up
growing some major crops... peas and beans, sweetcorn, all brassicas.
Unless there is a non chemical way to deal with mice, rats, pea & bean
weevil, slugs, flea beetle........

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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:31:11 +0100, Bobbie
wrote:

David in Normandy wrote:
mogga wrote:

So can I still eat the spuds if it's glycowhatsit or other
plantkiller? Is it worth digging them up?


Can't give a definitive answer. The ultra safe answer is not to eat them
and dig them up for the compost heap. However, I've eaten some potatoes
from plants that had a "glancing blow" while spraying weeds alongside.
The plants survived but were poorly for a while. The potatoes themselves
looked superficially ok and tasted normal, but I noticed they did not
keep well.

However, you can't be sure it was glyphosate or something more
obnoxious? On that basis I wouldn't eat them and just compost them.

The normal practice is to keep different sprayers. One specifically for
weedkillers. Alternatively, to always thoroughly wash out after using a
weedkiller.


Better still, give up using chemicals and pesticides. Go Green, go
organic. So much better for you and the environment.

I wouldn't have intentionally used weedkiller! I'd rather have weeds
(I think of them as potential composting materials & the bees love
buttercups! ) - but obviously I was really foolish not using a clean
container.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25345470@N02/3629091868/


I have a large garden, and a my husband has a good sized vegetable
garden, we don't use any chemicals. The veg are doing well and so are
the flower beds.

Bobbie
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mogga writes
So can I still eat the spuds if it's glycowhatsit or other plantkiller?
Is it worth digging them up?

It's unlikely to be glyphosate because that is a systemic - the plant
has to absorb it into its system first. In other words, you wouldn't see
any effect on the plants for at least a week. So, basically, you don'
know what killed them. I don't think I'd eat them if they were mine.
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K wrote:
mogga writes
So can I still eat the spuds if it's glycowhatsit or other
plantkiller? Is it worth digging them up?

It's unlikely to be glyphosate because that is a systemic - the plant
has to absorb it into its system first. In other words, you wouldn't
see any effect on the plants for at least a week. So, basically, you
don' know what killed them. I don't think I'd eat them if they were
mine.
I beg to differ. Over the last 6 months, I've used 'a lot' of Roundup, and
see effects in 36/48 hours. And no, I wouldn't eat the spuds either.
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:03:22 +0100, "Pete C"
wrote:



K wrote:
mogga writes
So can I still eat the spuds if it's glycowhatsit or other
plantkiller? Is it worth digging them up?

It's unlikely to be glyphosate because that is a systemic - the plant
has to absorb it into its system first. In other words, you wouldn't
see any effect on the plants for at least a week. So, basically, you
don' know what killed them. I don't think I'd eat them if they were
mine.
I beg to differ. Over the last 6 months, I've used 'a lot' of Roundup, and
see effects in 36/48 hours. And no, I wouldn't eat the spuds either.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/25345470@N02/3629091868/
Does that fit in with weedkiller?

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