Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:05 +0100, lloyd wrote:

Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

1. Terrier from working lines.
2. Huge cat.

hth

"Derek Turner" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:05 +0100, lloyd wrote:

Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

1. Terrier from working lines.
2. Huge cat.


Yes get some terrier men in.for your rats. Mine come about every six weeks
to sort them out.
I do have a huge cat, but he's a bit of a wuss about tackling the big ones
with the brown chisel teeth. He sorts out the small ones, no problem, but
those big ones, they're a job for the terriers, he claims ;-)
And he's right. some of the big ones even give the terriers a run for their
money, antiseptic needed to dab their bleeding noses where they've been well
bitten by a big rat. They don't seem to mind though, it seems to make them
more determined..

Tina

On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:12:20 +0100, "Christina Websell"
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:05 +0100, lloyd wrote:

Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

1. Terrier from working lines.
2. Huge cat.


Yes get some terrier men in.for your rats. Mine come about every six weeks
to sort them out.
I do have a huge cat, but he's a bit of a wuss about tackling the big ones
with the brown chisel teeth. He sorts out the small ones, no problem, but
those big ones, they're a job for the terriers, he claims ;-)
And he's right. some of the big ones even give the terriers a run for their
money, antiseptic needed to dab their bleeding noses where they've been well
bitten by a big rat. They don't seem to mind though, it seems to make them
more determined..

Tina

That sounds completely horrid. Why should anyone want to kill a rat
just because it's a rat, is that a crime for the poor beast to be a
rat? And if you feel you really must kill them why do it in such a
nasty way! I dread to think what you feel we should do with our feral
children.

I should like to discourage them, not wipe them out.

"lloyd" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:12:20 +0100, "Christina Websell"
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"Derek Turner" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:05 +0100, lloyd wrote:

Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

1. Terrier from working lines.
2. Huge cat.


Yes get some terrier men in.for your rats. Mine come about every six
weeks
to sort them out.
I do have a huge cat, but he's a bit of a wuss about tackling the big ones
with the brown chisel teeth. He sorts out the small ones, no problem, but
those big ones, they're a job for the terriers, he claims ;-)
And he's right. some of the big ones even give the terriers a run for
their
money, antiseptic needed to dab their bleeding noses where they've been
well
bitten by a big rat. They don't seem to mind though, it seems to make
them
more determined..

Tina

That sounds completely horrid. Why should anyone want to kill a rat
just because it's a rat, is that a crime for the poor beast to be a
rat? And if you feel you really must kill them why do it in such a
nasty way! I dread to think what you feel we should do with our feral
children.


They are not just rats though. They are a danger to health and that is why
local authority pest control officers will come and get rid of them for
free.

mark

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"lloyd" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:12:20 +0100, "Christina Websell"
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:05 +0100, lloyd wrote:

Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

1. Terrier from working lines.
2. Huge cat.


Yes get some terrier men in.for your rats. Mine come about every six
weeks
to sort them out.
I do have a huge cat, but he's a bit of a wuss about tackling the big
ones
with the brown chisel teeth. He sorts out the small ones, no problem, but
those big ones, they're a job for the terriers, he claims ;-)
And he's right. some of the big ones even give the terriers a run for
their
money, antiseptic needed to dab their bleeding noses where they've been
well
bitten by a big rat. They don't seem to mind though, it seems to make
them
more determined..

Tina

That sounds completely horrid. Why should anyone want to kill a rat
just because it's a rat, is that a crime for the poor beast to be a
rat? And if you feel you really must kill them why do it in such a
nasty way! I dread to think what you feel we should do with our feral
children.


They are not just rats though. They are a danger to health and that is why
local authority pest control officers will come and get rid of them for
free.

I agree with that except for the bit which says the pest control officers
will get rid of them for free, we had to pay a large sum to have them come
and get rid of those we had.

Alan

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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:12:20 +0100, "Christina Websell"
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"Derek Turner" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:05 +0100, lloyd wrote:

Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

1. Terrier from working lines.
2. Huge cat.


Yes get some terrier men in.for your rats. Mine come about every six
weeks
to sort them out.
I do have a huge cat, but he's a bit of a wuss about tackling the big
ones
with the brown chisel teeth. He sorts out the small ones, no problem,
but
those big ones, they're a job for the terriers, he claims ;-)
And he's right. some of the big ones even give the terriers a run for
their
money, antiseptic needed to dab their bleeding noses where they've been
well
bitten by a big rat. They don't seem to mind though, it seems to make
them
more determined..

Tina

That sounds completely horrid. Why should anyone want to kill a rat
just because it's a rat, is that a crime for the poor beast to be a
rat? And if you feel you really must kill them why do it in such a
nasty way! I dread to think what you feel we should do with our feral
children.


They are not just rats though. They are a danger to health and that is
why local authority pest control officers will come and get rid of them
for free.

I agree with that except for the bit which says the pest control officers
will get rid of them for free, we had to pay a large sum to have them come
and get rid of those we had.

Alan

It's a non chargeable service in this neck of the woods.

Some info about rats:
http://www.broadland.gov.uk/environment/1080.asp

mark

On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:25:40 +0100, "mark"
wrote:


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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:12:20 +0100, "Christina Websell"
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"Derek Turner" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:05 +0100, lloyd wrote:

Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

1. Terrier from working lines.
2. Huge cat.


Yes get some terrier men in.for your rats. Mine come about every six
weeks
to sort them out.
I do have a huge cat, but he's a bit of a wuss about tackling the big ones
with the brown chisel teeth. He sorts out the small ones, no problem, but
those big ones, they're a job for the terriers, he claims ;-)
And he's right. some of the big ones even give the terriers a run for
their
money, antiseptic needed to dab their bleeding noses where they've been
well
bitten by a big rat. They don't seem to mind though, it seems to make
them
more determined..

Tina

That sounds completely horrid. Why should anyone want to kill a rat
just because it's a rat, is that a crime for the poor beast to be a
rat? And if you feel you really must kill them why do it in such a
nasty way! I dread to think what you feel we should do with our feral
children.


They are not just rats though. They are a danger to health

No more so than many other animals or insects such as hedgehogs,
pigeons, flies, deer. In fact the world can be a flilthy place and
much of it down to ourselves. I find washing your hands regularly and
the food preperation surfaces will suffice. Fingers crossed.
The pest control hype continues to rake in billions, I'm surprised we
have not caught on yet.

I don't see how one can complain about rats and yet ignore the other
wildlife and insects. Even the soil with it's natural toxins. We can't
run away from everything. Makes you wonder how we ever got this far
from the trees.

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:05 +0100, lloyd wrote:

Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

ps peeing doesnt deter them mind you I have not seen neighbours
cats for a while

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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:25:40 +0100, "mark"
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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:12:20 +0100, "Christina Websell"
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"Derek Turner" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:05 +0100, lloyd wrote:

Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

1. Terrier from working lines.
2. Huge cat.


Yes get some terrier men in.for your rats. Mine come about every six
weeks
to sort them out.
I do have a huge cat, but he's a bit of a wuss about tackling the big
ones
with the brown chisel teeth. He sorts out the small ones, no problem,
but
those big ones, they're a job for the terriers, he claims ;-)
And he's right. some of the big ones even give the terriers a run for
their
money, antiseptic needed to dab their bleeding noses where they've been
well
bitten by a big rat. They don't seem to mind though, it seems to make
them
more determined..

Tina

That sounds completely horrid. Why should anyone want to kill a rat
just because it's a rat, is that a crime for the poor beast to be a
rat? And if you feel you really must kill them why do it in such a
nasty way! I dread to think what you feel we should do with our feral
children.


They are not just rats though. They are a danger to health

No more so than many other animals or insects such as hedgehogs,
pigeons, flies, deer. In fact the world can be a flilthy place and
much of it down to ourselves. I find washing your hands regularly and
the food preperation surfaces will suffice. Fingers crossed.
The pest control hype continues to rake in billions, I'm surprised we
have not caught on yet.

I don't see how one can complain about rats and yet ignore the other
wildlife and insects. Even the soil with it's natural toxins. We can't
run away from everything. Makes you wonder how we ever got this far
from the trees.


So by your own argument why do you want to deter rats?


mark

On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:36:31 +0100, "mark"
wrote:


"lloyd" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:25:40 +0100, "mark"
wrote:


"lloyd" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:12:20 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"Derek Turner" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:05 +0100, lloyd wrote:

Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

1. Terrier from working lines.
2. Huge cat.


Yes get some terrier men in.for your rats. Mine come about every six
weeks
to sort them out.
I do have a huge cat, but he's a bit of a wuss about tackling the big
ones
with the brown chisel teeth. He sorts out the small ones, no problem,
but
those big ones, they're a job for the terriers, he claims ;-)
And he's right. some of the big ones even give the terriers a run for
their
money, antiseptic needed to dab their bleeding noses where they've been
well
bitten by a big rat. They don't seem to mind though, it seems to make
them
more determined..

Tina

That sounds completely horrid. Why should anyone want to kill a rat
just because it's a rat, is that a crime for the poor beast to be a
rat? And if you feel you really must kill them why do it in such a
nasty way! I dread to think what you feel we should do with our feral
children.


They are not just rats though. They are a danger to health

No more so than many other animals or insects such as hedgehogs,
pigeons, flies, deer. In fact the world can be a flilthy place and
much of it down to ourselves. I find washing your hands regularly and
the food preperation surfaces will suffice. Fingers crossed.
The pest control hype continues to rake in billions, I'm surprised we
have not caught on yet.

I don't see how one can complain about rats and yet ignore the other
wildlife and insects. Even the soil with it's natural toxins. We can't
run away from everything. Makes you wonder how we ever got this far
from the trees.


So by your own argument why do you want to deter rats?

They give me the heebie jeebies, probably as a result of years of bad
unjustified press. Mind you many have them as pets, and they are very
intelligent animals. I don't mind the odd few clearing up the scraps
from my seed feeders, and I certainly don't mind seeing them as wild
creatures. It would be nice to put down some groundfood for the
hedgehogs and other ground feeders, but I don't wish to encourage too
many rats.

On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:31:54 +0100, lloyd wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:22:05 +0100, lloyd wrote:

Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

ps peeing doesnt deter them mind you I have not seen neighbours
cats for a while

come to think of it I have not seen the neighbours either!

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That sounds completely horrid. Why should anyone want to kill a rat
just because it's a rat, is that a crime for the poor beast to be a
rat? And if you feel you really must kill them why do it in such a
nasty way! I dread to think what you feel we should do with our feral
children.

I should like to discourage them, not wipe them out.[/quote]

If you can come up with a way to discourage rats, you will be a millionaire before you know it. They are vermin, carrying and transmitting dirt and disease, and are the last thing you want in your home. Maybe you have never met one face to face in a cupboard?

As to feral children - that's another kettle of fish. Parents who care is the first stage.

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:06:54 +0100, beccabunga
wrote:




That sounds completely horrid. Why should anyone want to kill a rat
just because it's a rat, is that a crime for the poor beast to be a
rat? And if you feel you really must kill them why do it in such a
nasty way! I dread to think what you feel we should do with our feral
children.

I should like to discourage them, not wipe them out.

If you can come up with a way to discourage rats, you will be a
millionaire before you know it. They are vermin, carrying and
transmitting dirt and disease, and are the last thing you want in your
home.[/i][/color]

That would apply to many creatures including humans I guess.

Maybe you have never met one face to face in a cupboard?

Quite right just 99.99999% of us. Perish the thought. Though the
problem is in the garden not the cupboards.

As to feral children - that's another kettle of fish. Parents who care is
the first stage.

On Oct 2, 10:22*pm, lloyd wrote:
Anything we can do to encourage the hedgehogs, but not the rats from
visiting the garden? I have both

We have cats; they don't seem to mind the hedgehogs. In fact, one
evening one of the hedgehogs came in 'for tea' and we ended up with
one big cat and one little hedgehog eating from the same tray.
Shortly thereafter, whilst the bigger cat was sitting to my right
looking for scraps as I ate, the hedgehog was to the left . It was the
strangest thing. Not seen him since though. We don't have rats. But,
if we did and the cats were doing nowt about it, then I guess i would
be tempted to try to see if the rats are partial to a bit of hot
stuff;
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle6860067.ece