In 2008 at the bottom of our back garden in each corner we have
made two hides for hedgehogs to reside in over winter, these hides
consist of branches, heavy duty liners over the branches to make
them waterproof and heavy sods of earth over top.

Pictures here;
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide1.jpg
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide2.jpg

A month ago I lined the inner sleeping area of one of the hides
with hay, we have not had anything live in them yet.

However!

On Friday night the outside security light came on just as I was
getting into bed so I looked out the window and to my delight I
saw a hedgehog trundling up the garden path, he had indeed set off
the light but my concern is that it may be too cold for him to
find food as the ground is frozen solid and the hedgehog may not
be ready to hibernate as he was obviously looking for food, Anyway
on Monday I decided to inspect one of the hides and as I carefully
pushed my hand into the opening a felt the prickly feel of a
hedgehog so I presume this is the same hedgehog I saw on friday
who has taken up residence in the hide I recently filled with hay.

My question is, shouldn't the hedgehog already be hibernating by
now? I think he has been caught out by the sudden cold spell and
may not be ready for hibernation.

Yesterday I made a special feeding house (mdf) with a double
entrance with offset openings to stop cats getting in and the
centre chamber has a small bowl of fresh cat food, this should be
accessible to hedgehogs should the need to beef themselves up for
the winter but it will also stop cats scoffing the food.

Today I decided to push in some lose hay in the entrance to add a
little more protection and I could still feel the hedgehog very
close to the entrance and not in the centre of the hide.

Any thoughts on the hibernation being perhaps too late for this
particular hedgehog or should I not be concerned?

Stephen.


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In 2008 at the bottom of our back garden in each corner we have
made two hides for hedgehogs to reside in over winter, these hides
consist of branches, heavy duty liners over the branches to make
them waterproof and heavy sods of earth over top.

Pictures here;
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide1.jpg
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide2.jpg

snip

Any thoughts on the hibernation being perhaps too late for this
particular hedgehog or should I not be concerned?

Stephen.


Hello Stephen ... this is very interesting. While I am unable to help I
suspect you will get a few responses from some educated urglers however
may I suggest you post this also on uk.rec.natural-history where you may
be able to rouse someone with more specialised knowledge. I look forward
with interest to developments.
--
Gopher .... I know my place!

Gopher wrote in :

In message ,
writes
In 2008 at the bottom of our back garden in each corner we have
made two hides for hedgehogs to reside in over winter, these hides
consist of branches, heavy duty liners over the branches to make
them waterproof and heavy sods of earth over top.

Pictures here;
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide1.jpg
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide2.jpg

snip

Any thoughts on the hibernation being perhaps too late for this
particular hedgehog or should I not be concerned?

Stephen.


Hello Stephen ... this is very interesting. While I am unable to help I
suspect you will get a few responses from some educated urglers however
may I suggest you post this also on uk.rec.natural-history where you may
be able to rouse someone with more specialised knowledge. I look forward
with interest to developments.

Stephen, you have done well to make a hibernation 'set' and I know you mean
well.

I would suggest that you contact a hedgehog or wildlife charity nearest to
you to save these creatures any further harm.

Baz

On Nov 30, 6:04*pm, wrote:

Yesterday I made a special feeding house (mdf) with a double
entrance with offset openings to stop cats getting in and the
centre chamber has a small bowl of fresh cat food, this should be
accessible to hedgehogs should the need to beef themselves up for
the winter but it will also stop cats scoffing the food.


Ooh, any chance of a photo,
Well done btw. I didn't know sods were an option

In message
Gopher wrote:

In message ,
writes
In 2008 at the bottom of our back garden in each corner we have
made two hides for hedgehogs to reside in over winter, these hides
consist of branches, heavy duty liners over the branches to make
them waterproof and heavy sods of earth over top.

Pictures here;
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide1.jpg
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide2.jpg

snip

Any thoughts on the hibernation being perhaps too late for this
particular hedgehog or should I not be concerned?

Stephen.


Hello Stephen ... this is very interesting. While I am unable to help I
suspect you will get a few responses from some educated urglers however
may I suggest you post this also on uk.rec.natural-history where you may
be able to rouse someone with more specialised knowledge. I look forward
with interest to developments.

Thanks for that, I have just posted to "uk.rec.natural-history",
there may be some interesting developments to follow.

Stephen.


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Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes
"Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce

In message
Baz wrote:

Gopher wrote in :

In message ,
writes
In 2008 at the bottom of our back garden in each corner we have
made two hides for hedgehogs to reside in over winter, these hides
consist of branches, heavy duty liners over the branches to make
them waterproof and heavy sods of earth over top.

Pictures here;
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide1.jpg
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide2.jpg

snip

Any thoughts on the hibernation being perhaps too late for this
particular hedgehog or should I not be concerned?

Stephen.


Hello Stephen ... this is very interesting. While I am unable to help I
suspect you will get a few responses from some educated urglers however
may I suggest you post this also on uk.rec.natural-history where you may
be able to rouse someone with more specialised knowledge. I look forward
with interest to developments.

Stephen, you have done well to make a hibernation 'set' and I know you mean
well.

I would suggest that you contact a hedgehog or wildlife charity nearest to
you to save these creatures any further harm.

Baz

I think there is one local sanctuary near me, I actually gave them
a sick hedgehog I saw wondering about in broad daylight afew
years ago, obviously something was wrong, I then also made a solid
wooden home for the sick hedgehog on a similar line to the feeding
house and with a hinged lift-up roof for access.

I may yet get in touch but I wanted to find out more on this group
first before bothering them about this hedgehog that might for all
I know not need help anyway.

Regards,

Stephen.


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In message
aquachimp wrote:

On Nov 30, 6:04*pm, wrote:

Yesterday I made a special feeding house (mdf) with a double
entrance with offset openings to stop cats getting in and the
centre chamber has a small bowl of fresh cat food, this should be
accessible to hedgehogs should the need to beef themselves up for
the winter but it will also stop cats scoffing the food.


Ooh, any chance of a photo,
Well done btw. I didn't know sods were an option

I'll take a photo tomorrow after work and post a link to it, it is
only a simple temporary design with a felt roof to protect the
food, the mdf case has not been treated for protection as I don't
think it necessary for a short term usage.

Regards,

Stephen.

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Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes
"Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce

aquachimp wrote:
On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, wrote:

Yesterday I made a special feeding house (mdf) with a double
entrance with offset openings to stop cats getting in and the
centre chamber has a small bowl of fresh cat food, this should be
accessible to hedgehogs should the need to beef themselves up for
the winter but it will also stop cats scoffing the food.


Ooh, any chance of a photo,
Well done btw. I didn't know sods were an option

They're the law.

--
Mike.

On 30/11/2010 17:04, wrote:
In 2008 at the bottom of our back garden in each corner we have
made two hides for hedgehogs to reside in over winter, these hides
consist of branches, heavy duty liners over the branches to make
them waterproof and heavy sods of earth over top.

Pictures here;
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide1.jpg
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/example/hide2.jpg

A month ago I lined the inner sleeping area of one of the hides
with hay, we have not had anything live in them yet.

However!

On Friday night the outside security light came on just as I was
getting into bed so I looked out the window and to my delight I
saw a hedgehog trundling up the garden path, he had indeed set off
the light but my concern is that it may be too cold for him to
find food as the ground is frozen solid and the hedgehog may not
be ready to hibernate as he was obviously looking for food, Anyway
on Monday I decided to inspect one of the hides and as I carefully
pushed my hand into the opening a felt the prickly feel of a
hedgehog so I presume this is the same hedgehog I saw on friday
who has taken up residence in the hide I recently filled with hay.

My question is, shouldn't the hedgehog already be hibernating by
now? I think he has been caught out by the sudden cold spell and
may not be ready for hibernation.

Yesterday I made a special feeding house (mdf) with a double
entrance with offset openings to stop cats getting in and the
centre chamber has a small bowl of fresh cat food, this should be
accessible to hedgehogs should the need to beef themselves up for
the winter but it will also stop cats scoffing the food.

Today I decided to push in some lose hay in the entrance to add a
little more protection and I could still feel the hedgehog very
close to the entrance and not in the centre of the hide.

Any thoughts on the hibernation being perhaps too late for this
particular hedgehog or should I not be concerned?

Stephen.


Hedgehogs should be in hibernation now, if not they probably won't survive.
I had a small one (this years young) wander down the garden last week to
the back door and ate the food I had left out for the cat, this was
about 2pm.
The following day it returned around 1pm for another feed so boxed it up
and took it to Tiggywinkles near Aylesbury, they confirmed that it would
not have survived so it will be overwintered there then released in the
spring.
Reading their newsletter they overwintered over 500 of them last year.

--
Corporal Jones
"Don't panic don't panic"
Life will go on albeit somewhat reduced

On Nov 30, 11:40*pm, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:
aquachimp wrote:
On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, wrote:

Yesterday I made a special feeding house (mdf) with a double
entrance with offset openings to stop cats getting in and the
centre chamber has a small bowl of fresh cat food, this should be
accessible to hedgehogs should the need to beef themselves up for
the winter but it will also stop cats scoffing the food.

Ooh, any chance of a photo,
Well done btw. I didn't know sods were an option

They're the law.

--
Mike.

Aren't we all sods.

aquachimp wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:40 pm, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:
aquachimp wrote:
On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, wrote:

Yesterday I made a special feeding house (mdf) with a double
entrance with offset openings to stop cats getting in and the
centre chamber has a small bowl of fresh cat food, this should be
accessible to hedgehogs should the need to beef themselves up for
the winter but it will also stop cats scoffing the food.

Ooh, any chance of a photo,
Well done btw. I didn't know sods were an option

They're the law.

Aren't we all sods.

Not su you'd better check with Murphy.

--
Mike.

On Dec 1, 11:56*am, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:
aquachimp wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:40 pm, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:
aquachimp wrote:
On Nov 30, 6:04 pm, wrote:

Yesterday I made a special feeding house (mdf) with a double
entrance with offset openings to stop cats getting in and the
centre chamber has a small bowl of fresh cat food, this should be
accessible to hedgehogs should the need to beef themselves up for
the winter but it will also stop cats scoffing the food.

Ooh, any chance of a photo,
Well done btw. I didn't know sods were an option

They're the law.

Aren't we all sods.

Not su you'd better check with Murphy.

--
Mike.

But but but, he only knows about spuds.

In message
Corporal Jones wrote:

On 30/11/2010 17:04, wrote:

Any thoughts on the hibernation being perhaps too late for this
particular hedgehog or should I not be concerned?

Stephen.


Hedgehogs should be in hibernation now, if not they probably won't survive.
I had a small one (this years young) wander down the garden last week to
the back door and ate the food I had left out for the cat, this was
about 2pm.
The following day it returned around 1pm for another feed so boxed it up
and took it to Tiggywinkles near Aylesbury, they confirmed that it would
not have survived so it will be overwintered there then released in the
spring.
Reading their newsletter they overwintered over 500 of them last year.

The hedgehog I saw is adult size so it may survive, however I'll
leave the cat food out in the feeding house just incase.

Food house pictured here;
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/...foodhouse1.jpg
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/...foodhouse2.jpg
http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/...foodhouse3.jpg

Stephen.

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On Dec 1, 6:18*pm, wrote:
In message
* * * * * Corporal Jones wrote:



On 30/11/2010 17:04, wrote:

Any thoughts on the hibernation being perhaps too late for this
particular hedgehog or should I not be concerned?

Stephen.

Hedgehogs should be in hibernation now, if not they probably won't survive.
I had a small one (this years young) wander down the garden last week to
the back door and ate the food I had left out for the cat, this was
about 2pm.
The following day it returned around 1pm for another feed so boxed it up
and took it to Tiggywinkles near Aylesbury, they confirmed that it would
not have survived so it will be overwintered there then released in the
spring.
Reading their newsletter they overwintered over 500 of them last year.

The hedgehog I saw is adult size so it may survive, however I'll
leave the cat food out in the feeding house just incase.

Food house pictured here;http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/...foodhouse3.jpg

Stephen.

--http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk
Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes
"Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce

Than you agin; #2 was what I was really interested in.

On Dec 1, 6:18*pm, wrote:
In message
* * * * * Corporal Jones wrote:





On 30/11/2010 17:04, wrote:

Any thoughts on the hibernation being perhaps too late for this
particular hedgehog or should I not be concerned?

Stephen.

Hedgehogs should be in hibernation now, if not they probably won't survive.
I had a small one (this years young) wander down the garden last week to
the back door and ate the food I had left out for the cat, this was
about 2pm.
The following day it returned around 1pm for another feed so boxed it up
and took it to Tiggywinkles near Aylesbury, they confirmed that it would
not have survived so it will be overwintered there then released in the
spring.
Reading their newsletter they overwintered over 500 of them last year.

The hedgehog I saw is adult size so it may survive, however I'll
leave the cat food out in the feeding house just incase.

Food house pictured here;http://stephen.hull.mediacave.co.uk/...foodhouse3.jpg

Stephen.

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Stephen,
Great work with HH. I built an HH home a few years ago but have had
little success.
How large are the cut-outs in your food house/box ?
Was this a guess or is there guidance available for big enough for HH,
too small for cats ?
Rob