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hugh wrote:
In message , Sacha
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On 2010-03-09 08:21:19 +0000, Gopher said:

In message , Donwill
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Heard on radio4 this morning that some research workers working for
the government, have introduced an insect that feeds on JK to two
secret sites in the UK, apparently this insect will spread and will
eradicate JK in the UK. =-O
Don
Let's hope it confines itself to the target weed. All too often these
introduced species prove uncontrollable and damage other "hosts".


The claim is that it was carefully researched before being allowed
into the country and that it causes harm to no other wildlife. The
claim is.....


Have a beefburger - perfectly safe.


I have some old books which describe brown rollrim (Paxillus involutus)
as edible, though of poor quality.

Due to famine in (IIRC) Poland during the war, and a glut of those
mushrooms at the same time, loads were eaten, and there were many
deaths. The poisons were cumulative...

I even have a fairly recent book ('1960s or 1970s) which lists it as
edible. Lange ought to have known better, if I knew in 1954...

Have a mushroom?

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"Jonathon" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:50:16 +0000, Donwill
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Bob Hobden wrote:


"Donwill" wrote
Heard on radio4 this morning that some research workers working for
the government, have introduced an insect that feeds on JK to two
secret sites in the UK, apparently this insect will spread and will
eradicate

This video is interesting (and short)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8556551.stm

Interesting, and these insects seem capable of killing the plant in
certain circumstances. Lets hope they don't adapt to eat other plant
species. I wonder what is their preferred environmental habitat. Humid
or dry, high temps or low, solar radiation? They look as if they have
wing cases so air currents may assist their spread.
Don


It's not all that long since Toads were introduced into Australia
in an endeavour to get rid of an insect causing immense
damage to the sugar cane crop.

Last news I heard of the progress of the toads was that they were
taking onthe Australians themselves. In short, they had become a
virtual plague. Oops!

Jon.


What else will it eradicate when it has done with knot weed ,hopefully not
something that could destroy any natives .

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keith kent wrote:


"Jonathon" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:50:16 +0000, Donwill
wrote:

Bob Hobden wrote:


"Donwill" wrote
Heard on radio4 this morning that some research workers working for
the government, have introduced an insect that feeds on JK to two
secret sites in the UK, apparently this insect will spread and will
eradicate

This video is interesting (and short)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8556551.stm

Interesting, and these insects seem capable of killing the plant in
certain circumstances. Lets hope they don't adapt to eat other plant
species. I wonder what is their preferred environmental habitat. Humid
or dry, high temps or low, solar radiation? They look as if they have
wing cases so air currents may assist their spread.
Don


It's not all that long since Toads were introduced into Australia
in an endeavour to get rid of an insect causing immense
damage to the sugar cane crop.

Last news I heard of the progress of the toads was that they were
taking onthe Australians themselves. In short, they had become a
virtual plague. Oops!

Jon.


What else will it eradicate when it has done with knot weed ,hopefully
not something that could destroy any natives .

It depends what you describe as natives.

Live in Hope& Die in Despair
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:23:52 -0800 (PST), Dave Hill wrote:

Why can't the powers that be realise that if they broadcast a couple
of programmes giving people a range of recipes for Jap.Knotweed and
giving the health benifits etc in early spring then once people had
got the taste and found out they could get it for nothing then the
plant would die out in a couple of years.


But it doesn't come prepacked from the supermarket with nutrition
information, ingredients and cooking instructions.

Can't say I've ever tried it cooked, as a lad ISTR that it wasn't
particularly palitable raw.

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Planting more Knotweed to keep the insect population under control



Wouldn't surprise me
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A regiment of botanists with butterfly nets.


Or bringing in something that eats the eaters?
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:23:52 -0800 (PST), Dave Hill wrote:

Why can't the powers that be realise that if they broadcast a couple
of programmes giving people a range of recipes for Jap.Knotweed and
giving the health benifits etc in early spring then once people had
got the taste and found out they could get it for nothing then the
plant would die out in a couple of years.


But it doesn't come prepacked from the supermarket with nutrition
information, ingredients and cooking instructions.

Can't say I've ever tried it cooked, as a lad ISTR that it wasn't
particularly palitable raw.


A bit like rhubarb when cooked apparently. Recipes at:

http://www.wildmanstevebrill.com/Pla.../Knotweed.html

Not a good idea if you or someone else has been using weedkiller on it.

Regards,
Martin Brown
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On 11 Mar, 08:16, Martin Brown
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:23:52 -0800 (PST), Dave Hill wrote:


Why can't the powers that be realise that if they broadcast a couple
of programmes giving people a range of recipes for Jap.Knotweed and
giving the health benifits etc in early spring then once people had
got the taste and found out they could get it for nothing then the
plant would die out in a couple of years.


But it doesn't come prepacked from the supermarket with nutrition
information, ingredients and cooking instructions.


Can't say I've ever tried it cooked, as a lad ISTR that it wasn't
particularly palitable raw.


A bit like rhubarb when cooked apparently. Recipes at:

http://www.wildmanstevebrill.com/Pla.../Knotweed.html

Not a good idea if you or someone else has been using weedkiller on it.

Regards,
Martin Brown


One of its names is Gipsy Rhubarb
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In article , Rusty Hinge
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A regiment of botanists with butterfly nets.


Or bringing in something that eats the eaters?


They haven't said whee this trial is taking place. Could it possibly
be on some offshore island? How far can this knotweed munching psyllid
fly?
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Janet Tweedy wrote:

In article , Rusty Hinge
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A regiment of botanists with butterfly nets.


Or bringing in something that eats the eaters?


They haven't said whee this trial is taking place. Could it possibly
be on some offshore island? How far can this knotweed munching psyllid
fly?


One of the research scientists said South of England.

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Alan wrote:
In message , Phil Cook
wrote
Janet Tweedy wrote:

In article , Rusty Hinge
writes
A regiment of botanists with butterfly nets.

Or bringing in something that eats the eaters?


They haven't said whee this trial is taking place. Could it possibly
be on some offshore island? How far can this knotweed munching psyllid
fly?


One of the research scientists said South of England.

What other islands are there in South of England besides Isle of Wight?
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In message , Donwill
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Alan wrote:
In message , Phil Cook
wrote
Janet Tweedy wrote:

In article , Rusty Hinge
writes
A regiment of botanists with butterfly nets.

Or bringing in something that eats the eaters?

They haven't said whee this trial is taking place. Could it possibly
be on some offshore island? How far can this knotweed munching psyllid
fly?


One of the research scientists said South of England.

What other islands are there in South of England besides Isle of Wight?
Don


I saw a map with a couple of dots on it which I took to be the release
locations. They're on the mainland.

However, for islands in the South of England, try the Scillies, Lundy,
Flat Holm, Steep Holm, Brownsea Island and the other Poole Harbour
islands, the Isle of Sheppey.
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Janet Tweedy wrote:
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A regiment of botanists with butterfly nets.


Or bringing in something that eats the eaters?


Coat them with chocolate and import a lot of Japanese?

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Donwill wrote:
Alan wrote:
In message , Phil Cook
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Janet Tweedy wrote:

In article , Rusty Hinge
writes
A regiment of botanists with butterfly nets.

Or bringing in something that eats the eaters?

They haven't said whee this trial is taking place. Could it possibly
be on some offshore island? How far can this knotweed munching psyllid
fly?


One of the research scientists said South of England.

What other islands are there in South of England besides Isle of Wight?


Well, well well! What a lovely excuse to nuke the IOW (and some that
sail in her...)!

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Dave Hill wrote:
On 10 Mar, 21:25, Rusty Hinge
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hugh wrote:
In message , Sacha
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On 2010-03-09 08:21:19 +0000, Gopher said:
In message , Donwill
writes
Heard on radio4 this morning that some research workers working for
the government, have introduced an insect that feeds on JK to two
secret sites in the UK, apparently this insect will spread and will
eradicate JK in the UK. =-O
Don
Let's hope it confines itself to the target weed. All too often these
introduced species prove uncontrollable and damage other "hosts".
The claim is that it was carefully researched before being allowed
into the country and that it causes harm to no other wildlife. The
claim is.....
Have a beefburger - perfectly safe.

I have some old books which describe brown rollrim (Paxillus involutus)
as edible, though of poor quality.

Due to famine in (IIRC) Poland during the war, and a glut of those
mushrooms at the same time, loads were eaten, and there were many
deaths. The poisons were cumulative...

I even have a fairly recent book ('1960s or 1970s) which lists it as
edible. Lange ought to have known better, if I knew in 1954...

Have a mushroom?

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Why can't the powers that be realise that if they broadcast a couple
of programmes giving people a range of recipes for Jap.Knotweed and
giving the health benifits etc in early spring then once people had
got the taste and found out they could get it for nothing then the
plant would die out in a couple of years.


You reckon?

There'd be new stands of it in gardens all over the country, abandoned
as soon as the novelty wore off.

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Rusty
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