On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:08:49 +0100, hugh ] wrote:


I take these sightings seriously.
My friend saw a huge black cat run across the road in front of her car
once.
She is sensible, does not drink at all and I do not doubt her. She
described it as "as big as a leopard"
Never seen since.

The huge black cat of Whitby turned out to be a Labrador.


This does not mean that sightings of big cats are not true.

It is impossible to prove a negative.

My friend has judged at Crufts - she'd know if it was a dog of any sort.


From my experience having judged at Crufts is not necessarily any
endorsement for being able to recognise a dog.

Certainly not an endorsement of their ability to recognise a normally-
-configured dog.

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"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
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Certainly not an endorsement of their ability to recognise a normally-
-configured dog.


What, in your opinion, is a normally configured dog?
Tina

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:00:19 +0100, "Christina Websell"
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"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
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Certainly not an endorsement of their ability to recognise a normally-
-configured dog.


What, in your opinion, is a normally configured dog?
Tina

Do you really need to ask?

For example, dogs with skin that fits, dogs that can breathe through
normal jaws and faces, dogs bred without congenital hip problems, dogs
bred without artificial ridges on their backs, dogs who can see their
way around without wearing an Alice band etc etc etc., dogs who can
walk without their guts scraping along the ground.

Why do you think Crufts has lost so many sponsors?
Lost their broadcaster?
Attracted criticism from so many sources including the RSPCA.

And most of the judges are more inbred than the poor animals.



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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:00:19 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
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Certainly not an endorsement of their ability to recognise a normally-
-configured dog.


What, in your opinion, is a normally configured dog?
Tina

Do you really need to ask?

For example, dogs with skin that fits, dogs that can breathe through
normal jaws and faces, dogs bred without congenital hip problems, dogs
bred without artificial ridges on their backs, dogs who can see their
way around without wearing an Alice band etc etc etc., dogs who can
walk without their guts scraping along the ground.

Why do you think Crufts has lost so many sponsors?
Lost their broadcaster?
Attracted criticism from so many sources including the RSPCA.

Don't start me about the RSPCA.

And most of the judges are more inbred than the poor animals.

Cite that, please.
Or is that just your silly opinion?

Tina

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:02:42 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:00:19 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
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Certainly not an endorsement of their ability to recognise a normally-
-configured dog.


What, in your opinion, is a normally configured dog?
Tina

Do you really need to ask?

For example, dogs with skin that fits, dogs that can breathe through
normal jaws and faces, dogs bred without congenital hip problems, dogs
bred without artificial ridges on their backs, dogs who can see their
way around without wearing an Alice band etc etc etc., dogs who can
walk without their guts scraping along the ground.

Why do you think Crufts has lost so many sponsors?
Lost their broadcaster?
Attracted criticism from so many sources including the RSPCA.

Don't start me about the RSPCA.

I didn't start it.

Just comment on the other points I've mentioned
or is just any criticism based on well-known facts anathema or silly.

Anyway, how did this stupid thread start, it's got nothing to do with
gardening and I'm bored with it.

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"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
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Anyway, how did this stupid thread start, it's got nothing to do with
gardening and I'm bored with it.


Unless you are still on dial-up, in which case you have a legitimate
complaint by paying to download an OT drifted thread I suggest you ignore
it. Some of us are still interested in this.

In message , Christina Websell
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"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
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Certainly not an endorsement of their ability to recognise a normally-
-configured dog.


What, in your opinion, is a normally configured dog?
Tina


In this context it would be a dog which conformed in physical attributes
to the standard for the breed laid down by the Kennel Club,
Unfortunately in the show world the whole system is unstable with
breeders being judges and judges being breeders. This invariably in
almost all breed has led to exaggerations, some more serious than
others.
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hugh
"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if
I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own
common sense." Buddha

"Martin" wrote in message
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Is it a ratzilla?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...odents-UK.html
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IME people who are not used to seeing rats around always over-estimate their
size when they've seen a glimpse of one.
As a poultry keeper I have an ongoing battle with them. I use terrier men
every month or two to come here and smoke them out with the dogs waiting.
The biggest one we ever got weighed just over a pound.
I used to use poison. Not any more - my tawny owls disappeared for one
thing, and poison takes a while to work, seeing dying rats in extremis
changed my mind about the method to use.
The terrier way, I believe, is kinder because the rats are either caught and
gone literally in a second or they get away to maybe be caught next time.

These are not ordinary pet terriers, btw, the terrier men like to hunt with
them and that's what they are for. Patterdales & working-bred Lakelands
make short shrift of my rats. Even if a big one hangs on to their nose and
makes them yelp, it's a gonner.
It costs me nothing except tea & biscuits

In message , Christina Websell
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IME people who are not used to seeing rats around always over-estimate their
size when they've seen a glimpse of one.
Likewise when people are startled when out at night.
No-one of course will then admit to being scared by a pussy cat
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hugh
"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if
I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own
common sense." Buddha

In message , Sacha
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On 2010-08-20 12:05:26 +0100, hugh ] said:

In message , Christina Websell
writes
IME people who are not used to seeing rats around always over-estimate their
size when they've seen a glimpse of one.
Likewise when people are startled when out at night.
No-one of course will then admit to being scared by a pussy cat

That's your personal experience, too, is it? How fortunate we are.
I taught I taw a puddy cat ....
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hugh
"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if
I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own
common sense." Buddha

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:23:11 +0100, "Christina Websell"
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"Martin" wrote in message
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Is it a ratzilla?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...odents-UK.html
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IME people who are not used to seeing rats around always over-estimate
their
size when they've seen a glimpse of one.

The one in the photo looks big )

It is not a photo of the rat that they saw.
This photo is from another country, where there are indeed very big rats.
Here, in the UK, we have rats that can seem huge, if you are not used to
them (as I said) but realistically they are not.
I've learned a lot about rats since I had poultry.
If one lives for some time it will get up to and slightly above 1lb in
weight, they are the males.
I have a cat. He is fine with dispatching the young ones, but the moment he
sees one of these 1lb+ ones with their big brown chisel teeth, he needs to
pretend he hasn't seen it by washing himself as it walks past.
i don't blame him. Those big ones give the terriers a run for their money.