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Has anyone had the same problem as me with toggle fixings for
plasterboard ..... the toggle springs out at the back of board to lie
alongside the screw thread i.e. the two wings don't open out equally
so that when you tighten the screw the fixing is pulled back through
the hole !
The fixings were bought from Wickes so I don't know if it's a quality
issue?
I want suitable fixings for a pretty heavy bathroom mirror and
unfortunately there are no studs in the right place ....
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 22:22:50 +0100, andy wrote:

Has anyone had the same problem as me with toggle fixings for
plasterboard ..... the toggle springs out at the back of board to lie
alongside the screw thread i.e. the two wings don't open out equally
so that when you tighten the screw the fixing is pulled back through
the hole !
The fixings were bought from Wickes so I don't know if it's a quality
issue?
I want suitable fixings for a pretty heavy bathroom mirror and
unfortunately there are no studs in the right place ....


Ooops sorry just realised posted in wrong group
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On 2 Oct, 22:25, andy wrote:
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 22:22:50 +0100, andy wrote:
Has anyone had the same problem as me with toggle fixings for
plasterboard ..... the toggle springs out at the back of board to lie
alongside the screw thread *i.e. the two wings don't open out equally
so that when you tighten the screw the fixing is pulled back through
the hole !
The fixings were bought from Wickes so I don't know if it's a quality
issue?
I want suitable fixings for a pretty heavy bathroom mirror and
unfortunately there are no studs in the right place ....


Ooops sorry just realised posted in wrong group





Well why not click on More options and delete the thread
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Dave Hill wrote:

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Ooops sorry just realised posted in wrong group


Well why not click on More options and delete the thread


Because he can't reach your keyboard?

That isn't how usenet works.

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"andy" wrote
Has anyone had the same problem as me with toggle fixings for
plasterboard ..... the toggle springs out at the back of board to lie
alongside the screw thread i.e. the two wings don't open out equally
so that when you tighten the screw the fixing is pulled back through
the hole !
The fixings were bought from Wickes so I don't know if it's a quality
issue?
I want suitable fixings for a pretty heavy bathroom mirror and
unfortunately there are no studs in the right place ....


I had the same problem with a lath and plaster wall years ago and believe it
was because I couldn't push them far enough into the wall to get them to
expand fully. Eventually found a different fixing with a rubber type tube
over the thread which expanded when the screw was tightened to grip the wall
inside. I've since seen metal type expanding grips but that may have been in
France.

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Dave Hill wrote:

On 2 Oct, 22:25, andy wrote:


Ooops sorry just realised posted in wrong group


Well why not click on More options and delete the thread


Because he can't reach your keyboard?


Because it deletes the thread only on your own computer and not from the
hundreds of servers that distribute it over the Usenet. There are
protocols that can remove an article but I guess that most ISPs have now
disabled this functionality due to mass abuse in the past (i.e. those
wanting to disrupt the Usenet sending out a cancel notice for every
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Bob Hobden wrote:
"andy" wrote
Has anyone had the same problem as me with toggle fixings for
plasterboard ..... the toggle springs out at the back of board to lie
alongside the screw thread i.e. the two wings don't open out equally
so that when you tighten the screw the fixing is pulled back through
the hole !
The fixings were bought from Wickes so I don't know if it's a quality
issue?
I want suitable fixings for a pretty heavy bathroom mirror and
unfortunately there are no studs in the right place ....


I had the same problem with a lath and plaster wall years ago and
believe it was because I couldn't push them far enough into the wall
to get them to expand fully. Eventually found a different fixing with
a rubber type tube over the thread which expanded when the screw was
tightened to grip the wall inside. I've since seen metal type
expanding grips but that may have been in France.


If they /are/ the right length, loosening up the toggles before use
could help: a dash of WD40 and some wiggling may ensure both wings
spring out.

I wonder if the metal ones you saw, Bob, were Expanding Rawlbolts. I've
used those in solid walls, but I'm not sure they'd do for
plasterboard -- a rather brittle material that always makes me nervous,
anyway.

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On 02/10/2010 22:22, andy wrote:
Has anyone had the same problem as me with toggle fixings for
plasterboard ..... the toggle springs out at the back of board to lie
alongside the screw thread i.e. the two wings don't open out equally
so that when you tighten the screw the fixing is pulled back through
the hole !
The fixings were bought from Wickes so I don't know if it's a quality
issue?
I want suitable fixings for a pretty heavy bathroom mirror and
unfortunately there are no studs in the right place ....

I fixed a 4ft wide x 3ft high mirror in similar circumstances by fixing
a 4ft chromed metal, unequal U shaped extrusion to the vertical
studding, it supported the mirror along it's bottom edge thereby taking
the weight of the mirror.
One could do the same using a wood batten of appropriate size, so that
it spans the vertical studding into which you screw into. The top
fixings of the mirror will be under considerably less strain as the
weight of the mirror would rest on the batten. It's also easier to lift
and present the mirror to the wall as you can rest it on the batten
while arranging your top fixings.
Hope this helps.
Don


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