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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:21:44 -0000, "Joan Edington"
wrote: We were on holiday in the Costa Blanca region of Spain this Christmas and came across a strange plant. It had tough green pods about 4 inches in length and roughly the shape of a pepper, at the end of long vine-like branches. The leaves were arrow-head shapes and a bit shorter. Since there were no flowers at this time of year I haven't been able to identify the plant from any of my sources. Has someone out there any idea what these are, please? I'd love to know what they may look like in spring or summer. I've attached a small photo, hoping that's allowed on this group. If not, I apologise. Thanks and a happy new year, Joan I think it's what we used to call a "choko" in Aus. "Cho-cho" in India, "chayote" and "christophene" elsewhere. If that's what it is, it's very bland: peel, remove big seed in the middle, then treat like its relative the vegetable marrow, though I imagine there are better recipes from India. -- Mike. |
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
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Mike Lyle wrote: I've attached a small photo, hoping that's allowed on this group. If not, I apologise. Hmm. Only a couple of days since the 'charter' was sent out for:- Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening outlining what to do about pictures -- John Mulrooney NOTE Email address IS correct but might not be checked for a while. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak |
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
In article , JTM
wrote: attached a small photo, hoping that's allowed on this group. If not, I apologise. Hmm. Only a couple of days since the 'charter' was sent out for:- Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening outlining what to do about pictures If you want a pic post one on your website or on eg.tinypic or photobucket |
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:13:29 +0000 (GMT), JTM
wrote: In article , Mike Lyle wrote: I've attached a small photo, hoping that's allowed on this group. If not, I apologise. Hmm. Only a couple of days since the 'charter' was sent out for:- Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening outlining what to do about pictures I wonder if the charter says anything about bearing false witness as to the messages of fellow-posters...but there's something about it in the book of Exodus, I imagine. Meanwhile, it wouldn't hurt to temper your wind to the shorn lamb: the OP's new here. -- Mike. |
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
I apologise for getting it wrong as usual. I've never tried using a picture
before, only logged onto the newsgroup today after a Christmas holiday and so missed the charter instructions. I don't have a web site so I've posted the image at the URL below. At least I hope I've done it right. http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff459/jedi444/ PS Sorry JTM, I got even more wrong by replying to you previously and not the group. "JTM" wrote in message ... In article , Mike Lyle wrote: I've attached a small photo, hoping that's allowed on this group. If not, I apologise. Hmm. Only a couple of days since the 'charter' was sent out for:- Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening outlining what to do about pictures -- John Mulrooney NOTE Email address IS correct but might not be checked for a while. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak |
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
Thanks Mike. I went puce with embarrassment when I got JTM's reply. Loved
your post though. I'd never heard the saying about the shorn lamb before it came up in a book I was reading over Christmas. It's become a bit of a joke between me and mine since. "Mike Lyle" wrote in message ... On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:13:29 +0000 (GMT), JTM wrote: In article , Mike Lyle wrote: I've attached a small photo, hoping that's allowed on this group. If not, I apologise. Hmm. Only a couple of days since the 'charter' was sent out for:- Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening outlining what to do about pictures I wonder if the charter says anything about bearing false witness as to the messages of fellow-posters...but there's something about it in the book of Exodus, I imagine. Meanwhile, it wouldn't hurt to temper your wind to the shorn lamb: the OP's new here. -- Mike. |
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
Thanks Sacha, the pod certainly looks the same but the leaves are rather
different. Since it was growing wild I don't think I'll try the recipe, though!! "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2011-01-03 17:37:01 +0000, Mike Lyle said: On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:21:44 -0000, "Joan Edington" wrote: We were on holiday in the Costa Blanca region of Spain this Christmas and came across a strange plant. It had tough green pods about 4 inches in length and roughly the shape of a pepper, at the end of long vine-like branches. The leaves were arrow-head shapes and a bit shorter. Since there were no flowers at this time of year I haven't been able to identify the plant from any of my sources. Has someone out there any idea what these are, please? I'd love to know what they may look like in spring or summer. I've attached a small photo, hoping that's allowed on this group. If not, I apologise. Thanks and a happy new year, Joan I think it's what we used to call a "choko" in Aus. "Cho-cho" in India, "chayote" and "christophene" elsewhere. If that's what it is, it's very bland: peel, remove big seed in the middle, then treat like its relative the vegetable marrow, though I imagine there are better recipes from India. I've never heard of it before but found this on Googling: http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/fr...phinewit_89119 -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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The fruit does look like chayote, but the leaves are wrong - I think they should be more like a french bean. Usual arrow-leaved creepers in that area are various Aristolochias, but that's just a wild guess. I don't think that the leaves are right, or the fruit!
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
In article ,
says... I apologise for getting it wrong as usual. I've never tried using a picture before, only logged onto the newsgroup today after a Christmas holiday and so missed the charter instructions. I don't have a web site so I've posted the image at the URL below. At least I hope I've done it right. http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff459/jedi444/ PS Sorry JTM, I got even more wrong by replying to you previously and not the group. "JTM" wrote in message ... In article , Mike Lyle wrote: I've attached a small photo, hoping that's allowed on this group. If not, I apologise. Hmm. Only a couple of days since the 'charter' was sent out for:- Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening outlining what to do about pictures -- John Mulrooney NOTE Email address IS correct but might not be checked for a while. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak Joan, the plant is Aruajia sericefera, it is an evergreen climber in the milkweed family and those fruits contain many silky seeds. Flowers are in late summer and about 1" across pink and white with a good scent. Can be damaged outside in the UK so needs protecting. (Oh and the whole plant is toxic!) -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2011-01-04 12:51:07 +0000, "Joan Edington" said: Thanks Sacha, the pod certainly looks the same but the leaves are rather different. Since it was growing wild I don't think I'll try the recipe, though!! snip You might try asking on a food/cooking group, perhaps. There is a uk one but it might not help any more than urg can. If there's a group that discusses Spanish cooking, you might get some help there. -- Sacha Its not edible, its Aruajia sericefera one of the climbing milkweeds, I am sure Ray has it somewhere! Most of us that grow it remove the pods or it seeds everywhere -- Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella and Lapageria rosea cvs http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk |
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
Many thanks, Charlie. I would never have found that in a million years. It's
good to know it's such a pretty flower and available in the UK. I don't think one would have a hope of surviving in my part of Scotland, though. I could almost be tempted back to the costa Brava in summer to see it, or maybe not :-) Joan "Charlie Pridham" wrote in message T... In article , says... I apologise for getting it wrong as usual. I've never tried using a picture before, only logged onto the newsgroup today after a Christmas holiday and so missed the charter instructions. I don't have a web site so I've posted the image at the URL below. At least I hope I've done it right. http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff459/jedi444/ PS Sorry JTM, I got even more wrong by replying to you previously and not the group. "JTM" wrote in message ... In article , Mike Lyle wrote: I've attached a small photo, hoping that's allowed on this group. If not, I apologise. Hmm. Only a couple of days since the 'charter' was sent out for:- Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening outlining what to do about pictures -- John Mulrooney NOTE Email address IS correct but might not be checked for a while. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak Joan, the plant is Aruajia sericefera, it is an evergreen climber in the milkweed family and those fruits contain many silky seeds. Flowers are in late summer and about 1" across pink and white with a good scent. Can be damaged outside in the UK so needs protecting. (Oh and the whole plant is toxic!) -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
In article ,
says... "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2011-01-04 12:51:07 +0000, "Joan Edington" said: Thanks Sacha, the pod certainly looks the same but the leaves are rather different. Since it was growing wild I don't think I'll try the recipe, though!! snip You might try asking on a food/cooking group, perhaps. There is a uk one but it might not help any more than urg can. If there's a group that discusses Spanish cooking, you might get some help there. -- Sacha Its not edible, its Aruajia sericefera one of the climbing milkweeds, I am sure Ray has it somewhere! Most of us that grow it remove the pods or it seeds everywhere Sorry Sacha , i have just deleated your post while trying to do a snip! Yes I have it, I don't think I could get rid of it from my greenhouse it comes up everywhere, but I agree its a lovely evergreen scented climber which I used to be able to grow happily outside on a wall - not any more, the last two winters have seen it off! -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:02:55 -0000, "Joan Edington"
wrote: Many thanks, Charlie. I would never have found that in a million years. It's good to know it's such a pretty flower and available in the UK. I don't think one would have a hope of surviving in my part of Scotland, though. I could almost be tempted back to the costa Brava in summer to see it, or maybe not :-) [...] Charlie had written: Joan, the plant is Aruajia sericefera, it is an evergreen climber in the milkweed family and those fruits contain many silky seeds. Flowers are in late summer and about 1" across pink and white with a good scent. Can be damaged outside in the UK so needs protecting. (Oh and the whole plant is toxic!) Thanks for the education. I hope nobody's eaten it on the strenmgth of my suggestion! -- Mike. |
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Identity of Spanish Plant, please?
Do you mean that the Hillhouse Nursery has these plants? If so, what name
would they be under, in case I wanted to try my best with one. Hopefully, Joan "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2011-01-05 19:27:56 +0000, "Charlie Pridham" said: "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2011-01-04 12:51:07 +0000, "Joan Edington" said: Thanks Sacha, the pod certainly looks the same but the leaves are rather different. Since it was growing wild I don't think I'll try the recipe, though!! snip You might try asking on a food/cooking group, perhaps. There is a uk one but it might not help any more than urg can. If there's a group that discusses Spanish cooking, you might get some help there. -- Sacha Its not edible, its Aruajia sericefera one of the climbing milkweeds, I am sure Ray has it somewhere! Most of us that grow it remove the pods or it seeds everywhere We do have it and I didn't recognise the photo at all, have never even thouht of eating it and hadn't heard of that name for it! It's in the big double, I think. It's the one that catches moths by their tongues and then lets them go a few hours later. It's a really beautiful thing, imo. If he has a spare, do you want it or do you have it already? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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