Granted no-one will ever fully control a cat but I have now learned
that it is possible to "educate" them to be less of a nuisance. As
you've implied, the problem is more with the owner than the animal.

Jake


I think you have thought about this problem and have come to a conclusion
which is spot on. I mean spot on.
Thing is that interestingly, not all cat owners agree!

Baz

In general I think you will find that owners train dogs, but cats train the
owners !

Bill

In message , Bill Grey
wrote

In general I think you will find that owners train dogs, but cats train the
owners !

This is the argument often used by antisocial cat owners. All cats can
be trained but most owners believe it is acceptable to just throw them
out the house to roam as they please.

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Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

"Alan" wrote in message
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In message , Bill Grey
wrote

In general I think you will find that owners train dogs, but cats train
the
owners !

This is the argument often used by antisocial cat owners. All cats can be
trained

Well if you know a way to do it, please let me know.


but most owners believe it is acceptable to just throw them out the house
to roam as they please.


Cats are entitled to roam in the UK. By law - did I say this
before? I think I did. Get used to it.

Tina

"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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Cats are entitled to roam in the UK. By law - did I say this
before? I think I did. Get used to it.

Tina


"""entitled to roam in the UK. By law """

and that just about sums up the very selfish attitude of cat owners.

Thank you SO much for posting that :-))

Mike


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"'Mike'" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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Cats are entitled to roam in the UK. By law - did I say this
before? I think I did. Get used to it.

Tina


"""entitled to roam in the UK. By law """

and that just about sums up the very selfish attitude of cat owners.

Thank you SO much for posting that :-))



"""I can by law, therefore I will """

:-((



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Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive
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In message , Christina Websell
wrote

Cats are entitled to roam in the UK. By law - did I say this
before? I think I did. Get used to it.

As you imply there is no legal way of stopping a cat destroying a garden
so the only advice that can be given is resort to illegal methods. The
chances of getting caught are close to zero and the chances of the owner
finding out are also close to zero. They wouldn't know if their missing
cat had been run over on the road.


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Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

"Alan" wrote in message
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In message , Christina Websell
wrote

Cats are entitled to roam in the UK. By law - did I say this
before? I think I did. Get used to it.

As you imply there is no legal way of stopping a cat destroying a garden
so the only advice that can be given is resort to illegal methods. The
chances of getting caught are close to zero and the chances of the owner
finding out are also close to zero. They wouldn't know if their missing
cat had been run over on the road.


If my cat was missing I would know if it had been run over as the council
collect roadkill and I would only need to phone them to see if if this was
the case.
Be very careful about what you are saying as your computer has a unique
number that can easily be traced to your house.

"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...

"Alan" wrote in message
...
In message , Christina Websell
wrote

Cats are entitled to roam in the UK. By law - did I say this
before? I think I did. Get used to it.

As you imply there is no legal way of stopping a cat destroying a garden
so the only advice that can be given is resort to illegal methods. The
chances of getting caught are close to zero and the chances of the owner
finding out are also close to zero. They wouldn't know if their missing
cat had been run over on the road.


If my cat was missing I would know if it had been run over as the council
collect roadkill and I would only need to phone them to see if if this was
the case.
Be very careful about what you are saying as your computer has a unique
number that can easily be traced to your house.


Reference your last para. What a pity cats can't be traced to their
irresponsible and selfish owners.

Kindest possible regards

Mike


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Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive
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In message , Christina Websell
wrote


If my cat was missing I would know if it had been run over as the council
collect roadkill and I would only need to phone them to see if if this was
the case.

Yep they will collect road kill but they don't waste time registering
it. It goes in the back if the crusher with all the rest of the rubbish
they collect. The consequence of the law that the cat lovers on this
group are so fond of quoting is that there is no legal obligation to
report a road kill of a cat and there is no legal obligation for a
council to keep any records.

Be very careful about what you are saying as your computer has a unique
number that can easily be traced to your house.

My computer has a couple of unique numbers none of which are registered
anywhere with my house address. There are a few other numbers
associated with my Internet accounts that can be traced - I don't hide
the information.

ISP don't give out details unless there is a court order and I don't
believe one would be issued for warning selfish cat owners that there
are real world consequences if they believe that they don't have to take
responsibility for the welfare of their pets.

If you are so concerned about my postings perhaps you can suggest a
practical way to prevent the dozens of urban cats using my flower beds
as shit stations and destroying my seed beds. All suggestions have got
to cost less money than you spend keeping your cat to the confines of
your own garden.

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Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk