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01-04-2011, 11:00 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated.
Thanks for reading 
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02-04-2011, 09:18 AM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
On Apr 1, 11:00*pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab.
wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. The ash would in fact be benificial. |
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02-04-2011, 11:08 AM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
In message , Martin
writes On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: On Apr 1, 11:00*pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. plus chemical additives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_cigarettes And the argument that something is non-harmful because it's naturally derived is fallacious.. The ash would in fact be benificial. In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial? One could argue that the residual nicotine (if any) is harmful to greenfly. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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02-04-2011, 12:06 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
In message , Sacha
writes On 2011-04-02 11:08:24 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley said: In message , Martin writes On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: On Apr 1, 11:00*pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. plus chemical additives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_cigarettes And the argument that something is non-harmful because it's naturally derived is fallacious.. The ash would in fact be benificial. In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial? One could argue that the residual nicotine (if any) is harmful to greenfly. Do roses get tobacco mosaic virus? ;-) Maybe. URL:http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...9.1984.tb02882. x/abstract -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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02-04-2011, 04:14 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 11:21:57 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-04-02 11:08:24 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley said: In message , Martin writes On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: On Apr 1, 11:00*pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. plus chemical additives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_cigarettes And the argument that something is non-harmful because it's naturally derived is fallacious.. The ash would in fact be benificial. In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial? One could argue that the residual nicotine (if any) is harmful to greenfly. Do roses get tobacco mosaic virus? ;-) Lungwort? |
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02-04-2011, 04:31 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
"harry" wrote in message ... On Apr 1, 11:00 pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. The ash would in fact be benificial. .................................................. ......................................... Certainly not beneficial to the pavements outside pubs, clubs, restaurants and offices with their butt ends as well. Dreadful mess :-(( And that's not taking into account the fact that you have to run the gauntlet through the obnoxious smoke when going in and out. Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive .................................... |
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02-04-2011, 07:11 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
On Apr 2, 9:29*am, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: On Apr 1, 11:00*pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. *Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. plus chemical additives *The ash would in fact be benificial. In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial? -- Martin What chemical additives? Benifits are the same as woodash/ash derived from any plant. Source of Potassium. |
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02-04-2011, 07:12 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
On Apr 2, 11:21*am, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-04-02 11:08:24 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley said: In message , Martin writes On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: On Apr 1, 11:00*pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. *Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. plus chemical additives * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_cigarettes And the argument that something is non-harmful because it's naturally derived is fallacious.. The ash would in fact be benificial. In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial? One could argue that the residual nicotine (if any) is harmful to greenfly. Do roses get tobacco mosaic virus? *;-) -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com South Devon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't think anything would survive the burning. |
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02-04-2011, 07:14 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
On Apr 2, 4:31*pm, "'Mike'" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message ... On Apr 1, 11:00 pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. *Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. *The ash would in fact be benificial. .................................................. ..........................*............... Certainly not beneficial to the pavements outside pubs, clubs, restaurants and offices with their butt ends as well. Dreadful mess :-(( And that's not taking into account the fact that you have to run the gauntlet through the obnoxious smoke when going in and out. Mike -- ................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive ................................... Smoke from a garden bonfire is equally harmful but most gardeners don't worry about that. |
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02-04-2011, 07:26 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
On Apr 2, 9:29*am, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: On Apr 1, 11:00*pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. *Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. plus chemical additives *The ash would in fact be benificial. In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial? -- Martin A spurious list. It cites carbon dioxide?????????? Mostly natural oils that would not survive the combustion process. |
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02-04-2011, 07:28 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
On Apr 2, 7:24*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-04-02 19:12:53 +0100, harry said: On Apr 2, 11:21 am, Sacha wrote: On 2011-04-02 11:08:24 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley said: In message , Martin writes On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: On Apr 1, 11:00 pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. plus chemical additives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_cigarettes And the argument that something is non-harmful because it's naturally derived is fallacious.. The ash would in fact be benificial. In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial? One could argue that the residual nicotine (if any) is harmful to greenfly. Do roses get tobacco mosaic virus? ;-) -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com South Devon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't think anything would survive the burning. What burning from cigarette ash? Or from hands? *Is there something I'm missing? -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com South Devon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Any diseases present would be incinerated. Virii ? are highly susceptible to heat. |
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02-04-2011, 07:29 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
On Apr 2, 7:24*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-04-02 19:11:55 +0100, harry said: On Apr 2, 9:29*am, Martin wrote: On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: On Apr 1, 11:00*pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. *Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. plus chemical additives *The ash would in fact be benificial. In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial? -- Martin What chemical additives? Benifits are the same as woodash/ash derived from any plant. Source of Potassium. I'd rather use banana skins! -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com South Devon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The question was about fagash. |
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02-04-2011, 08:04 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 22:00:00 +0000, Sultana Wahab
wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading Reading the preceding postings which partly relate to the health disbenefits of smoking, you talk about "flicking" of cigarette ash. The volume of ash resulting from the average cigarette is miniscule in relation to the amount of soil surrounding the plant roots. It is also miniscule in relation to the volume of foliage on any respectable plant. So the answer is essentially "don't worry". But, as an apologetic ex-filthy-anti-social-habit-smoker, I'm really intrigued as to why you've asked the question. |
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02-04-2011, 08:53 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 11:28:40 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote: On Apr 2, 7:24*pm, Sacha wrote: On 2011-04-02 19:12:53 +0100, harry said: On Apr 2, 11:21 am, Sacha wrote: On 2011-04-02 11:08:24 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley said: In message , Martin writes On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: On Apr 1, 11:00 pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. plus chemical additives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_cigarettes And the argument that something is non-harmful because it's naturally derived is fallacious.. The ash would in fact be benificial. In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial? One could argue that the residual nicotine (if any) is harmful to greenfly. Do roses get tobacco mosaic virus? ;-) -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com South Devon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't think anything would survive the burning. What burning from cigarette ash? Or from hands? *Is there something I'm missing? -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com South Devon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Any diseases present would be incinerated. Virii ? are highly susceptible to heat. ("Viruses": the Latin original seems to have been uncountable, so we're free to use our native form for the plural. Back when these organisms were discovered, they probably also reflected that "viri" would also mean "men") Ash should be harmless; but butts should go in the bin, as I understand they're what might conceivably carry the virus, especially to tomatoes, peppers, and aubergines. The paper to which Stewart referred, about the rose family, adds another layer of concern. -- Mike. |
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02-04-2011, 09:40 PM
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Would it harm my Rose bush if cigarette ash was flicked into the soil?
"harry" wrote in message ... On Apr 2, 7:24 pm, Sacha wrote: On 2011-04-02 19:12:53 +0100, harry said: On Apr 2, 11:21 am, Sacha wrote: On 2011-04-02 11:08:24 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley said: In message , Martin writes On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: On Apr 1, 11:00 pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab. wrote: Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response appreciated. Thanks for reading -- Sultana Wahab No. Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce. plus chemical additives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_cigarettes And the argument that something is non-harmful because it's naturally derived is fallacious.. The ash would in fact be benificial. In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial? One could argue that the residual nicotine (if any) is harmful to greenfly. Do roses get tobacco mosaic virus? ;-) -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com South Devon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't think anything would survive the burning. What burning from cigarette ash? Or from hands? Is there something I'm missing? -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com South Devon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Any diseases present would be incinerated. Virii ? are highly susceptible to heat. In order to produce sufficient ash to benefit the plant, would the smoker be alive to see the benefit I ask ? Bill |
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