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On 2011-04-02 19:11:55 +0100, harry said:

On Apr 2, 9:29 am, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry
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On Apr 1, 11:00 pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab.
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Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response
appreciated.
Thanks for reading

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No. Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce.

plus chemical additives

The ash would in fact
be benificial.

In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial?
--

Martin


What chemical additives?
Benifits are the same as woodash/ash derived from any plant. Source of
Potassium.


I'd rather use banana skins!
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I have difficulty in lighting them, even then they're not a nice smoke
anyway.

Bill


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On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:19:51 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:03:51 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-04-02 21:43:08 +0100, "Bill Grey" said:


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I'd rather use banana skins!
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I have difficulty in lighting them, even then they're not a nice smoke
anyway.

Bill


Lol! I'll take your word for that, Bill!


We watched an old Heston Blumenthal programme on Belgian TV this week.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b008bylh

In the programme he smoked salmon in a pile of burning straw that he
put in a squirrel trap.
Anybody in his right mind would have smoked the salmon in a closed tin
using oak saw dust.

Those who tried to smoke straw behind the school bike sheds can
imagine the result.


Blumenthal should go to Iceland. There, I tried two kinds of smoked
salmon: one was very good, but conventional. The other tasted as
though it had been smoked over a fire of slow-burning sheep-droppings.
This was because it had been smoked over a fire of slow-burning
sheep-droppings. I wasn't offered any smoked puffin -- an apt name, it
only now occurs to me.

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Mike Lyle wrote:
Blumenthal should go to Iceland.


I presume that's the country, not the shop!
(I just bought 2 loaves for 1.50 in Iceland!!)
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On 3 Apr 2011 23:38:21 GMT, wrote:

Mike Lyle wrote:
Blumenthal should go to Iceland.


I presume that's the country, not the shop!
(I just bought 2 loaves for 1.50 in Iceland!!)


As it happens, I did once try their vegetarian sausage rolls; and,
sure enough, they did seem to be made out of sheep droppings.

For smoked puffin, I think one has to go to Waitrose.

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- I'm not good with words and I'll try and explain why I asked the question.
The Rose bush has been around for some years and I'm now attached to it. It's pretty and makes me smile. Mistakes have been made and I was just concerned.
During the cold periods when I'm stood by it, it brings me some kind of warm comfort.
It's only a frigging Rose bush, I know.


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I used to smoke - quite heavily most of the time and never more so
than when sitting in front of this screen. To my side is a corner
group of plants - Howea, Dysis & Dieffenbachia and for many years
their pots have served as impromptu ash trays from time to time. The
plants have grown well despite this 'abuse' and continue to thrive.
There's very little in the ash - either harmful or useful and usual
analyses show traces of calcium, iron, magnesium plus other elements.
The quantities involved are so small that they present no risk nor do
they offer any benefit so from a plant's perspective they are
essentially inert. Don't worry about the rose, any problems will
certainly not be due to cigar/cigarette ash.
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:37:02 +0000, Sultana Wahab
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Jake;916778 Wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 22:00:00 +0000, Sultana Wahab
wrote:
-

Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response
appreciated.
Thanks for reading -

Reading the preceding postings which partly relate to the health
disbenefits of smoking, you talk about
"flicking" of cigarette ash.


The volume of ash resulting from the average cigarette is miniscule in
relation to the amount of soil surrounding the plant roots. It is also
miniscule in relation to the volume of foliage

on any respectable
plant.

So the answer is essentially "don't worry".
But, as an apologetic ex-filthy-anti-social-habit-smoker, I'm really
intrigued as to why you've asked the question.


- I'm not good with words and I'll try and explain why I asked the
question.
The Rose bush has been around for some years and I'm now attached to
it. It's pretty and makes me smile. Mistakes have been made and I was
just concerned.
During the cold periods when I'm stood by it, it brings me some kind of
warm comfort.


That's a good attitude, and ample reason for asking. Plants are living
things, and we do have relationships with them.

It's only a frigging Rose bush, I know.


No, no! That's *not* a good attitude! You're among gardeners, so you
can stick with your true feelings.

Do note what some of us said a few days ago, though: the ash is safe,
but on the whole, it's best not to put dogends on the garden or in the
compost because of the slight risk of plant disease.

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On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:37:02 +0000, Sultana Wahab
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Jake;916778 Wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 22:00:00 +0000, Sultana Wahab
wrote:
-

Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response
appreciated.
Thanks for reading -

Reading the preceding postings which partly relate to the health
disbenefits of smoking, you talk about

"flicking" of cigarette ash.


The volume of ash resulting from the average cigarette is miniscule in
relation to the amount of soil surrounding the plant roots. It is also
miniscule in relation to the volume of foliage


on any respectable
plant.
So the answer is essentially "don't worry".
But, as an apologetic ex-filthy-anti-social-habit-smoker, I'm really
intrigued as to why you've asked the



question.


- I'm not good with words and I'll try and

explain why I asked the
question.
The Rose bush has been around for some years and I'm now attached to
it. It's pretty and makes me smile. Mistakes have been made and I was


just concerned.
During the cold periods when I'm stood by it, it brings me some kind of
warm comfort.




That's a good attitude, and ample reason for asking. Plants are living
things, and we do have relationships with them.
[color=blue]
It's only a frigging Rose bush, I know.
[/color

No, no! That's *not* a good attitude! You're among gardeners, so you
can stick with your true feeling

Do note what some of us said a few days ago, though: the ash is safe,
but on the whole, it's best not to put dogends on the garden or in the
compost because of the slight risk of plant
disease.

--
Mike.
- Mike, I can honestly say the butt ends have a home and it's the coke can that hides behind another pot plant. Best regards, s
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Martin wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:03:51 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-04-02 21:43:08 +0100, "Bill Grey"
said:


"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2011-04-02 19:11:55 +0100, harry said:

On Apr 2, 9:29 am, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:18:43 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

On Apr 1, 11:00 pm, Sultana Wahab Sultana.Wahab.
wrote:
Apologies if the above question sounds stupid. A nice response
appreciated.
Thanks for reading

--
Sultana Wahab

No. Tobacco is a naturally derived substsnce.

plus chemical additives

The ash would in fact
be benificial.

In what way would flicked cigarette ash be beneficial?
--

Martin

What chemical additives?
Benifits are the same as woodash/ash derived from any plant.
Source of Potassium.

I'd rather use banana skins!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

I have difficulty in lighting them, even then they're not a nice
smoke anyway.

Bill


Lol! I'll take your word for that, Bill!


We watched an old Heston Blumenthal programme on Belgian TV this week.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b008bylh

In the programme he smoked salmon in a pile of burning straw that he
put in a squirrel trap.
Anybody in his right mind would have smoked the salmon in a closed tin
using oak saw dust.

Those who tried to smoke straw behind the school bike sheds can
imagine the result.


I remember some years ago seeing him make "perfect" mashed potato. After
about three days of careful preparation to the nearest .1 degree centigrade,
cooling it down, heating it up, and so on, he had about a spoonful of
unappetising looking slop. How we laughed, it became a bit of a running joke
in the family.


Ian


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