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Plum wine query
Hi there!
We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! |
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HI John
No particular tips - but we used to make wine with the Mirabel plums that grew in the hedgerows when we lived in Suffolk, and very nice it was too.. ISTR that it was worthwhile measuring the Specific Gravity of the 'must' (= mashed up fruit before fermentation) and adding sugar to a specified SG - as some years the plums were sweeter than others, and adding a set amount of sugar wasn't the right way.... Simpler the recipe the better - 4lbs of fruit to 1 gall water, some pectolytic enzyme helps the fruit to break down and release the juice. Sugar as above, yeast to get things started. After a week transfer from covered bucket to glass demijohn with fermentation lock - ferment until it stops bubbling. Rack off into bottles or clean demijohn. Not sure if it improved with age - ours never lasted that long! g Adrian On 30/07/2011 20:36, john smith wrote: Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:48:48 +0100, Adrian Brentnall
wrote: HI John No particular tips - but we used to make wine with the Mirabel plums that grew in the hedgerows when we lived in Suffolk, and very nice it was too.. ISTR that it was worthwhile measuring the Specific Gravity of the 'must' (= mashed up fruit before fermentation) and adding sugar to a specified SG - as some years the plums were sweeter than others, and adding a set amount of sugar wasn't the right way.... Simpler the recipe the better - 4lbs of fruit to 1 gall water, some pectolytic enzyme helps the fruit to break down and release the juice. Sugar as above, yeast to get things started. After a week transfer from covered bucket to glass demijohn with fermentation lock - ferment until it stops bubbling. Rack off into bottles or clean demijohn. Not sure if it improved with age - ours never lasted that long! g Adrian On 30/07/2011 20:36, john smith wrote: Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! I used to make wine obsessively for years -- probably a good thing that I stopped! I never measured the Specific Gravity, though I know it's the counsel of perfection. 2lb sugar to 4lb plums if they're good and ripe, half lb more sugar if they aren't quite. Plums and damsons make excellent wine, but they are prone to pectin hazes, so Adrian's dead right about the pectolytic enzyme. Add a tumblerfull of concentrated grape juice if you've got any: it adds a touch of "real wine" character. -- Mike. |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 Adrian Brentnall wrote:
Simpler the recipe the better - 4lbs of fruit to 1 gall water, some pectolytic enzyme helps the fruit to break down and release the juice. Sugar as above, yeast to get things started. I don't use a pectolytic enzyme any more as the yeast itself breaks the fruit down eventually. David -- David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK http://rance.org.uk |
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"Adrian Brentnall" wrote in message ... HI John No particular tips - but we used to make wine with the Mirabel plums that grew in the hedgerows when we lived in Suffolk, and very nice it was too.. ISTR that it was worthwhile measuring the Specific Gravity of the 'must' (= mashed up fruit before fermentation) and adding sugar to a specified SG - as some years the plums were sweeter than others, and adding a set amount of sugar wasn't the right way.... Simpler the recipe the better - 4lbs of fruit to 1 gall water, some pectolytic enzyme helps the fruit to break down and release the juice. Sugar as above, yeast to get things started. After a week transfer from covered bucket to glass demijohn with fermentation lock - ferment until it stops bubbling. Rack off into bottles or clean demijohn. Not sure if it improved with age - ours never lasted that long! g Adrian On 30/07/2011 20:36, john smith wrote: Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! Thanks for the help, Adrian! That advice was so concise, even a fool like me can't go wrong... |
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:48:48 +0100, Adrian Brentnall wrote: HI John No particular tips - but we used to make wine with the Mirabel plums that grew in the hedgerows when we lived in Suffolk, and very nice it was too.. ISTR that it was worthwhile measuring the Specific Gravity of the 'must' (= mashed up fruit before fermentation) and adding sugar to a specified SG - as some years the plums were sweeter than others, and adding a set amount of sugar wasn't the right way.... Simpler the recipe the better - 4lbs of fruit to 1 gall water, some pectolytic enzyme helps the fruit to break down and release the juice. Sugar as above, yeast to get things started. After a week transfer from covered bucket to glass demijohn with fermentation lock - ferment until it stops bubbling. Rack off into bottles or clean demijohn. Not sure if it improved with age - ours never lasted that long! g Adrian On 30/07/2011 20:36, john smith wrote: Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! I used to make wine obsessively for years -- probably a good thing that I stopped! I never measured the Specific Gravity, though I know it's the counsel of perfection. 2lb sugar to 4lb plums if they're good and ripe, half lb more sugar if they aren't quite. Plums and damsons make excellent wine, but they are prone to pectin hazes, so Adrian's dead right about the pectolytic enzyme. Add a tumblerfull of concentrated grape juice if you've got any: it adds a touch of "real wine" character. -- Mike. Cheers for the advice, Mike! That tip about the sugar and enzyme seems to be an important point. I have a treeful of Victoria plums and their bursting with juicy sweetness, so I guess less sugar than more may be the rule here... Thanks again! |
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On 31/07/2011 02:02, john smith wrote:
"Adrian wrote in message ... HI John No particular tips - but we used to make wine with the Mirabel plums that grew in the hedgerows when we lived in Suffolk, and very nice it was too.. ISTR that it was worthwhile measuring the Specific Gravity of the 'must' (= mashed up fruit before fermentation) and adding sugar to a specified SG - as some years the plums were sweeter than others, and adding a set amount of sugar wasn't the right way.... Simpler the recipe the better - 4lbs of fruit to 1 gall water, some pectolytic enzyme helps the fruit to break down and release the juice. Sugar as above, yeast to get things started. After a week transfer from covered bucket to glass demijohn with fermentation lock - ferment until it stops bubbling. Rack off into bottles or clean demijohn. Not sure if it improved with age - ours never lasted that long!g Adrian On 30/07/2011 20:36, john smith wrote: Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! Thanks for the help, Adrian! That advice was so concise, even a fool like me can't go wrong... g I don't know - we've produced the occasional 5 gallon batch of fruity drain-cleaner in the past! I forgot to mention cleanliness - you want to make sure that 'everything' is clean before it touches your wine - including the containers, anything you stir the wine with, airlocks, siphon tubes... everything. Half an hour's soak in a proprietary brewing cleaner does the trick. Have fun! Adrian |
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"john smith" wrote in message ... Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! Plum makes a good wine. The main problem is a haze caused by pectin in the plums, you'll probably need a pectin enzyme to clear it. Why not make jam? The pectin is an asset here (makes the jam set) |
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harryagain wrote:
"john wrote in message ... Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! Plum makes a good wine. The main problem is a haze caused by pectin in the plums, you'll probably need a pectin enzyme to clear it. Why not make jam? The pectin is an asset here (makes the jam set) My favourite plum and blackberry jam recipe. It's an unusual method - I freeze the fruit, cos the juice runs more freely when they have thawed. And sieve the cooked plums to remove the stones, cos it's easier than de-stoning the plums before cooking. 750g plums 625g blackberries 60ml water 1.25kg sugar Freeze plums, blackberries. Simmer plums in water till soft. Sieve, removing only the stones. Add blackberries, simmer till soft. Add sugar, heat gently to dissolve sugar, then, when dissolved, boil rapidly to setting point. (5 mins) |
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"harryagain" wrote in message ... "john smith" wrote in message ... Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! Plum makes a good wine. The main problem is a haze caused by pectin in the plums, you'll probably need a pectin enzyme to clear it. Why not make jam? The pectin is an asset here (makes the jam set) Made plum jam last year and still got loads of jars of it left. Thought I'd tried something different this time round... Cheers for the tip, though! |
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:31:36 +0100, "john smith"
wrote: "harryagain" wrote in message ... "john smith" wrote in message ... Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! Plum makes a good wine. The main problem is a haze caused by pectin in the plums, you'll probably need a pectin enzyme to clear it. Why not make jam? The pectin is an asset here (makes the jam set) Made plum jam last year and still got loads of jars of it left. Thought I'd tried something different this time round... Cheers for the tip, though! You could see if there's a produce exchange thing going on in your area: somebody who hasn't got any plums may have too much of something you would like. -- Mike. |
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message ... On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:31:36 +0100, "john smith" wrote: "harryagain" wrote in message ... "john smith" wrote in message ... Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! Plum makes a good wine. The main problem is a haze caused by pectin in the plums, you'll probably need a pectin enzyme to clear it. Why not make jam? The pectin is an asset here (makes the jam set) Made plum jam last year and still got loads of jars of it left. Thought I'd tried something different this time round... Cheers for the tip, though! You could see if there's a produce exchange thing going on in your area: somebody who hasn't got any plums may have too much of something you would like. -- Mike. Never heard of that. Got any links? It's a shame they can't open a shop or something on the allotment, where the public can come in and buy fresh fruit and veg. Some by-law about people coming onto the property, I think... |
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On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 01:35:14 +0100, "john smith"
wrote: "Mike Lyle" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:31:36 +0100, "john smith" wrote: "harryagain" wrote in message ... "john smith" wrote in message ... Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! Plum makes a good wine. The main problem is a haze caused by pectin in the plums, you'll probably need a pectin enzyme to clear it. Why not make jam? The pectin is an asset here (makes the jam set) Made plum jam last year and still got loads of jars of it left. Thought I'd tried something different this time round... Cheers for the tip, though! You could see if there's a produce exchange thing going on in your area: somebody who hasn't got any plums may have too much of something you would like. -- Mike. Never heard of that. Got any links? It's a shame they can't open a shop or something on the allotment, where the public can come in and buy fresh fruit and veg. Some by-law about people coming onto the property, I think... Sorry: I know somebody who's trying to get one going in Coventry, that's all. I see that "produce exchange" brings up some links on Ggl, some of which are clearly the kind of thing I'm thinking of; so you could poke about, maybe adding the name of your town or area to the search term. -- Mike. |
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message ... On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 01:35:14 +0100, "john smith" wrote: "Mike Lyle" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:31:36 +0100, "john smith" wrote: "harryagain" wrote in message ... "john smith" wrote in message ... Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! Plum makes a good wine. The main problem is a haze caused by pectin in the plums, you'll probably need a pectin enzyme to clear it. Why not make jam? The pectin is an asset here (makes the jam set) Made plum jam last year and still got loads of jars of it left. Thought I'd tried something different this time round... Cheers for the tip, though! You could see if there's a produce exchange thing going on in your area: somebody who hasn't got any plums may have too much of something you would like. -- Mike. Never heard of that. Got any links? It's a shame they can't open a shop or something on the allotment, where the public can come in and buy fresh fruit and veg. Some by-law about people coming onto the property, I think... Sorry: I know somebody who's trying to get one going in Coventry, that's all. I see that "produce exchange" brings up some links on Ggl, some of which are clearly the kind of thing I'm thinking of; so you could poke about, maybe adding the name of your town or area to the search term. -- Mike. Can't find anything for up here in Lancashire. Is the system called anything else other than "produce exchange"? |
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On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:02:26 +0100, "john smith"
wrote: "Mike Lyle" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 01:35:14 +0100, "john smith" wrote: "Mike Lyle" wrote in message ... On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:31:36 +0100, "john smith" wrote: "harryagain" wrote in message ... "john smith" wrote in message ... Hi there! We have a surfeit of plums this year - and very nice they are too! - but rather than letting them go to waste. I was wondering how easy it'd be to make plum wine? I've found a few recipes online but was wondering if anyone here had any first-hand tips they could pass on? Thanks in advance! Plum makes a good wine. The main problem is a haze caused by pectin in the plums, you'll probably need a pectin enzyme to clear it. Why not make jam? The pectin is an asset here (makes the jam set) Made plum jam last year and still got loads of jars of it left. Thought I'd tried something different this time round... Cheers for the tip, though! You could see if there's a produce exchange thing going on in your area: somebody who hasn't got any plums may have too much of something you would like. -- Mike. Never heard of that. Got any links? It's a shame they can't open a shop or something on the allotment, where the public can come in and buy fresh fruit and veg. Some by-law about people coming onto the property, I think... Sorry: I know somebody who's trying to get one going in Coventry, that's all. I see that "produce exchange" brings up some links on Ggl, some of which are clearly the kind of thing I'm thinking of; so you could poke about, maybe adding the name of your town or area to the search term. -- Mike. Can't find anything for up here in Lancashire. Is the system called anything else other than "produce exchange"? Your guess is as good as mine, or better. There's something called a "LETS", or, IIRC, "Local Exchange Trading Scheme": you could ring the changes on that and similar words. -- Mike. |
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