On Sep 30, 3:59*pm, "'Mike'" wrote:
"MuddyMike" wrote in message

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"Bart" wrote in message
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On Sep 29, 11:51 am, Janet Tweedy wrote:
Not sure if anyone has any suggestions to solve current plight with
lawnmower but I'd be glad of any ideas.
Sounds very much like an electrical problem of some
kind..............as if the fuel supply is blocked, there is no chance
of restart after a short time, without having cleared the blockage
first.

Not always. If the float valve is partially blocked it can allow a little
fuel to trickle through which in time will re fill the float chamber, but
not enough to run the engine, so when the bowl has emptied the engine
splutters and dies from fuel starvation.

Mike

That is somewhat like the problem I had on my Subaru Legacy Estate. Fuel
starvation.

Superb car but started to get expensive when things did eventually start to
go wrong. Would have had another, but the Subaru Dealership was not renewed
here on the Isle of WIGHT. One of my daughters' is on her third Subaru. A
Legacy Estate like mine to start with then a couple of Impreza's, she is
talking about getting another one

Mike

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Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive.

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Anyone who takes a car to main dealer must be very wealthy, as this is
a very good way to get comprehensively seen to, and end up paying
through the nose for things you simply dont need!

All modern cars have a port into which you plug a cheap (£19) fault
code reader, and in many cases the code will indicate exactly what the
problem is. In most issues are to do with faulty pressure or
temperature sensors, which are not generally very costly, and can be
replaced easily by a home mechanic.

If you need to get work carried out professionally, try and find a
good independent garage, as in most cases the work will cost less than
half what a main dealer would charge, and will be done to a better
standard.

In article , MuddyMike
writes

lots of really useful information and ..................

I have a Hayter 56, the slightly bigger brother to yours and in the18 years
I have owned it, other than new blades, it has needed two replacement
diaphragms and one replacement drive belt. they are good machines but do
need basic servicing.

Mike


Well I have had the machine serviced at two very good mower companies
before now but they took so long that i take it to a general mower man
nearby instead .

Guess I'll have to bite the bullet and book it in to Bryants or Browns
then ...

Need to print your instructions out in large letters and try and follow
them if I can! Thanks Mike much appreciated

In article , hugh
] writes
Has he cleaned the air filter?

Yes put new one in


Check state of spark plug when it stops.
It may be getting too little or too much petrol.


Will do. Does sometimes stink of petrol when try and restart it after it
stops.

"Bart" wrote
Anyone who takes a car to main dealer must be very wealthy, as this is
a very good way to get comprehensively seen to, and end up paying
through the nose for things you simply dont need!

All modern cars have a port into which you plug a cheap (£19) fault
code reader, and in many cases the code will indicate exactly what the
problem is. In most issues are to do with faulty pressure or
temperature sensors, which are not generally very costly, and can be
replaced easily by a home mechanic.

If you need to get work carried out professionally, try and find a
good independent garage, as in most cases the work will cost less than
half what a main dealer would charge, and will be done to a better
standard.

From my experience you are talking rubbish. Our Main BMW dealer is superb
and the charges for servicing are considerably lower than a friends VW Golf
and even those of a little Vauxhall we used to own.
We used, many years ago, to use a "good independent garage" and they cost us
a fortune because they didn't have the manufacturers updates and warnings so
things went wrong that a main dealer would have checked for and cured before
it became terminal. From that day we have always used a main dealer.
My old LR90 was put into a "good independent garage" with a good reputation
and it cost me over £900 as they replaced all sorts of things to cure a fuel
starvation problem finally putting on a new fuel pump which was the problem.
A complete new fuel system when all it wanted was a £50 fitted fuel pump.
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Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On Sep 30, 11:09*pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Bart" *wrote

Anyone who takes a car to main dealer must be very wealthy, as this is
a very good way to get comprehensively seen to, and end up paying
through the nose for things you simply dont need!

All modern cars have a port into which you plug a cheap ( 19) fault
code reader, and in many cases the code will indicate exactly what the
problem is. In most issues are to do with faulty pressure or
temperature sensors, which are not generally very costly, and can be
replaced easily by a home mechanic.

If you need to get work carried out professionally, try and find a
good independent garage, as in most cases the work will cost less than
half what a main dealer would charge, and will be done to a better
standard.

From *my experience you are talking rubbish. Our Main BMW dealer is superb
and the charges for servicing are considerably lower than a friends VW Golf
and even those of a little Vauxhall we used to own.
We used, many years ago, to use a "good independent garage" and they cost us
a fortune because they didn't have the manufacturers updates and warnings so
things went wrong that a main dealer would have checked for and cured before
it became terminal. From that day we have always used a main dealer.
My old LR90 was put into a "good independent garage" with a good reputation
and it cost me over 900 as they replaced all sorts of things to cure a fuel
starvation problem finally putting on a new fuel pump which was the problem.
A complete new fuel system when all it wanted was a 50 fitted fuel pump.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

In general main dealers get away with charging around double the
labour rates of independents through people actually believing that
they are going to get a better standard of service. In reality the
opposite is the case in most instances, and as well as labour rates
being far higher, things like brake discs and pads will be replaced as
a matter of course when cars are serviced, whether they are badly worn
or not. Thats a very old main dealer favourite, as is charging
customers for genuine manufacturers parts, and using cheap pattern
stuff.

On Sep 30, 9:46*pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , MuddyMike
writes

lots of really useful information and ..................

I have a Hayter 56, the slightly bigger brother to yours and in the18 years
I have owned it, other than new blades, it has needed two replacement
diaphragms and one replacement drive belt. they are good machines but do
need basic servicing.

Mike

Well I have had the machine serviced at two very good mower companies
before now but they took so long that i take it to a general mower man
nearby instead .

Guess I'll have to bite the bullet and book it in to Bryants or Browns
then ...

Need to print your instructions out in large letters and try and follow
them if I can! Thanks Mike much appreciated

You might find it a whole lot easier, and far less costly to remove
the spark plug when the mower stops, and see whether its sparking
properly or not, as I suggested in an earlier post. Posters on here
seem blissfully unaware of the fact an engine needs 3 things before it
will run: 1) Air 2) Fuel 3) Spark.................you seem to have had
someone investigate the first 2 things at some length, so taking a
good look at the third possibility might be worth a try before
squandering so much money, it would have been cheaper to have bought a
new mower.

In article ,
Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article
,
Bart writes

You might find it a whole lot easier, and far less costly to remove
the spark plug when the mower stops, and see whether its sparking
properly or not,

How do i look at the spark plug at the same time as pulling the rope
that pulls the choke/ignition? I need to stand at the back to get enough
pull on the rope itself so peering over to the front of the machine is
not going to be terribly easy as I'm only 5ft 4"

But how long are your eye-stalks? If you are as handicapped as most
earthlings, you may well have problems.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article
,
Bart writes
You might find it a whole lot easier, and far less costly to remove
the spark plug when the mower stops, and see whether its sparking
properly or not,


How do i look at the spark plug at the same time as pulling the rope
that pulls the choke/ignition? I need to stand at the back to get enough
pull on the rope itself so peering over to the front of the machine is
not going to be terribly easy as I'm only 5ft 4"
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

In article , Martin
writes
I'd replace the spark plug whether or not it sparks outside the
engine.


That's been done Martin
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

In article , Martin
writes

and the capacitor?

Er, not that I know of whatever that is

--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

In article , writes
But how long are your eye-stalks? If you are as handicapped as most
earthlings, you may well have problems.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Well exactly, i only have the average length eye stalks which as you
know, limits one's visible line of sight
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

On Oct 1, 12:05*pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article
,
Bart writes

You might find it a whole lot easier, and far less costly to remove
the spark plug when the mower stops, and see whether its sparking
properly or not,

How do i look at the spark plug at the same time as pulling the rope
that pulls the choke/ignition? I need to stand at the back to get enough
pull on the rope itself so peering over to the front of the machine is
not going to be terribly easy as I'm only 5ft 4" *
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraphhttp://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Might be easier and cheaper to find someone to give you a hand for a
few minutes, and at least make an attempt to sort out your problems,
rather than endless posts on here, which mostly result in responses
from people who dont seem to have much clue about how a small engine
actually works?

"Bart" wrote in message
...
On Oct 1, 12:05 pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article
,
Bart writes

You might find it a whole lot easier, and far less costly to remove
the spark plug when the mower stops, and see whether its sparking
properly or not,

How do i look at the spark plug at the same time as pulling the rope
that pulls the choke/ignition? I need to stand at the back to get enough
pull on the rope itself so peering over to the front of the machine is
not going to be terribly easy as I'm only 5ft 4"
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraphhttp://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Might be easier and cheaper to find someone to give you a hand for a
few minutes, and at least make an attempt to sort out your problems,
rather than endless posts on here, which mostly result in responses
from people who dont seem to have much clue about how a small engine
actually works?
.................................................. ............................

Something else you are an expert in Chris?

Or just more unsubstantiated lies from you?



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....................................

Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive.

....................................

In article
,
Bart writes
Might be easier and cheaper to find someone to give you a hand for a
few minutes, and at least make an attempt to sort out your problems,
rather than endless posts on here,


Well i wasn't intending to put endless posts on here Bart merely
politely replying to all those who took the time and trouble to post
what they considered a solution.

Janet
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On Oct 2, 10:56*am, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article
,
Bart writes

Might be easier and cheaper to find someone to give you a hand for a
few minutes, and at least make an attempt to sort out your problems,
rather than endless posts on here,

Well i wasn't intending to put endless posts on here Bart merely
politely replying to all those who took the time and trouble to post
what they considered a solution.

Janet
--

I wonder why you seem able to make the effort to post on here, but
cant be bothered to take the only advice thats been offered that might
assist in resolving your problem?