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It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??

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It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??


* Pure wood ash (from trees)is worth using, even saving it dry in an old
dustbin. We used all our woodash in the garden.

*I wouldn't use wood ash from treated timber, or coal ash on soil used for
food crops, because of the possible (toxic) trace metal content.

* Janet


In my youth we had heavy clay and all ash went onto the garden where
we grew veg, but in those days they hadn't invented toxic trace
metals, burned around a ton of coal, a ton of coke and around 2 tons
of logs, we did riddle the ashes to re use the larger bits.
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It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??

Wally



I was reading about the rhubarb triangle the other day and they
mentioned ash being used heavily.
Got to find the article again though
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It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??

Wally


we keep ours to help delivery men whose vans get stuck in the muddy patches
down our drive :-)

kate

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On 07/11/2011 14:49, Kate Morgan wrote:

It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??

Wally


we keep ours to help delivery men whose vans get stuck in the muddy
patches down our drive :-)

kate

Fine ash? I was brought up in the North East of England on the edge of
the Pennines. In the 50s and 60s the local council stored the clinker
from the coal fired boilers (mining area) and spread this on the
icy/snowy roads in the winter. Salt??

Malcolm


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On 07/11/2011 14:49, Kate Morgan wrote:

It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??

Wally


we keep ours to help delivery men whose vans get stuck in the muddy
patches down our drive :-)

kate

Fine ash? I was brought up in the North East of England on the edge of
the Pennines. In the 50s and 60s the local council stored the clinker
from the coal fired boilers (mining area) and spread this on the
icy/snowy roads in the winter. Salt??

Malcolm

I was brought up in the Pennines and you are right, salt was never used
on the roads. Grit on top of the compacted snow. Of course we get much
more snow than in lowland areas but we very rarely missed school even
though we had to travel down the dale to get there.
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On 07/11/2011 21:27, hugh wrote:
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On 07/11/2011 14:49, Kate Morgan wrote:

It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??

Wally


we keep ours to help delivery men whose vans get stuck in the muddy
patches down our drive :-)

kate

Fine ash? I was brought up in the North East of England on the edge of
the Pennines. In the 50s and 60s the local council stored the clinker
from the coal fired boilers (mining area) and spread this on the
icy/snowy roads in the winter. Salt??

Malcolm

I was brought up in the Pennines and you are right, salt was never used
on the roads. Grit on top of the compacted snow. Of course we get much
more snow than in lowland areas but we very rarely missed school even
though we had to travel down the dale to get there.

I remeber the driver of the school bus telling us all to go to the back
of the bus and jimp up and down when he had problems climbing a steep
hill on the way to school

Malcolm
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On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:31:32 +0000, Chris Hogg wrote:

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:59:29 -0000, "Wally"
wrote:

It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??

Wally

Wood ash is strongly alkaline, containing a lot of potash and lime.
Great for raising the pH of your soil and improving the texture of
heavy clays, but keep it away from lime-haters such as rhododendrons
etc. Some people let it weather before applying it. Planting into soil
freshly treated with raw ash may burn the plant roots, as with quick
lime.



I'll start saving mine in a bucket for my clay covered plot!
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On Nov 8, 9:45*am, Janet wrote:
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On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:31:32 +0000, Chris Hogg wrote:


On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:59:29 -0000, "Wally"
wrote:


It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??


Wally


Wood ash is strongly alkaline, containing a lot of potash and lime.
Great for raising the pH of your soil and improving the texture of
heavy clays, but keep it away from lime-haters such as rhododendrons
etc. Some people let it weather before applying it. Planting into soil
freshly treated with raw ash may burn the plant roots, as with quick
lime.


I'll start saving mine in a bucket for my clay covered plot!


* I used to save some dry, to spread in circles *around planted-out
brassica seedlings. Slugs hate crawling over ash, and tha rain takes the
potash down to the roots.

* *Janet.- Hide quoted text -

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I remember when I weas young we used to save the soot from when the
chimneys were swept and use that the same way, taking care not to get
any on the plants.
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On 07/11/2011 14:49, Kate Morgan wrote:

It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??

Wally


we keep ours to help delivery men whose vans get stuck in the muddy
patches down our drive :-)

kate

Fine ash? I was brought up in the North East of England on the edge of
the Pennines. In the 50s and 60s the local council stored the clinker
from the coal fired boilers (mining area) and spread this on the icy/snowy
roads in the winter. Salt??

Malcolm


When I had Rayburn stove I used to scatter the fine ash on the hill outside
my home. The Rayburn has long since gone, but the council has placed a
salt-grit bunker nearby for us to use. I've seen cars with trailers come and
pinch all the grit for other areas not even local. The hill outside my home
is 1:6 slope.

Bill




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On 2011-11-08 17:34:41 +0000, "Bill Grey" said:


"Malcolm" wrote in message
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On 07/11/2011 14:49, Kate Morgan wrote:

It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??

Wally


we keep ours to help delivery men whose vans get stuck in the muddy
patches down our drive :-)

kate
Fine ash? I was brought up in the North East of England on the edge of
the Pennines. In the 50s and 60s the local council stored the clinker
from the coal fired boilers (mining area) and spread this on the
icy/snowy
roads in the winter. Salt??

Malcolm


When I had Rayburn stove I used to scatter the fine ash on the hill
outside
my home. The Rayburn has long since gone, but the council has placed a
salt-grit bunker nearby for us to use. I've seen cars with trailers come
and
pinch all the grit for other areas not even local. The hill outside my
home
is 1:6 slope.

Bill


Take the cars' numbers?
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That might help, but I thinkI would be giving myself even more grief.

Bill


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On Nov 7, 11:59*am, "Wally" wrote:
It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??

Wally


Its good nutrients, potash. It can also be used for weed clearance,
put down a 2-3" layer of ash and nothing will survive. It'll be a year
or so before anything dare grow again though.


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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2011-11-08 17:34:41 +0000, "Bill Grey"
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"Malcolm" wrote in message
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On 07/11/2011 14:49, Kate Morgan wrote:

It's getting cold now and we're starting to use
the log/coal burner and will be getting quite a
lot of ash in the coming months.
My question is, will this ash be beneficial to the
soil on my allotment or should I just bin it ??

Wally


we keep ours to help delivery men whose vans get stuck in the muddy
patches down our drive :-)

kate
Fine ash? I was brought up in the North East of England on the edge
of
the Pennines. In the 50s and 60s the local council stored the clinker
from the coal fired boilers (mining area) and spread this on the
icy/snowy
roads in the winter. Salt??

Malcolm

When I had Rayburn stove I used to scatter the fine ash on the hill
outside
my home. The Rayburn has long since gone, but the council has placed a
salt-grit bunker nearby for us to use. I've seen cars with trailers
come
and
pinch all the grit for other areas not even local. The hill outside my
home
is 1:6 slope.

Bill

Take the cars' numbers?
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That might help, but I thinkI would be giving myself even more grief.

Bill


Do they have to know it's you that did it?
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South Devon


Probably, or even definitely, as I would be the nearest dwelling for a fair
distance from the bunker.

I approached one character last winter, and whilst not threatening was quite
confrontatonal.

I wonder if the aggro is worth it, and the council have been told, but
couldn't care less.

Bill


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