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To add to last week.
I got some logs delivered for my woodburner and the next day I was bringing
5 or so inside last thing at night (as you do)
I just got inside the house with them when I felt the most amazing pain in
the end of one of my fingers. I dropped the logs which luckily missed my
recently broken ankle.
I didn't know it was a wasp, but I suspected it, and I had forgotten how
much a wasp sting hurt. It's years since I had a sting and this was a big
saved up all the poison one that has been painful for 4 days.
Anyway she crawled out on my carpet away from the logs.

Part of me wanted to stamp on her. I didn't. I gathered her up on some
wood and put her outside. No doubt to go back to my woodheap. I like wasps.
Normally.

Tina



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On 31/12/2011 01:50, Christina Websell wrote:
To add to last week.
I got some logs delivered for my woodburner and the next day I was bringing
5 or so inside last thing at night (as you do)
I just got inside the house with them when I felt the most amazing pain in
the end of one of my fingers. I dropped the logs which luckily missed my
recently broken ankle.
I didn't know it was a wasp, but I suspected it, and I had forgotten how
much a wasp sting hurt. It's years since I had a sting and this was a big
saved up all the poison one that has been painful for 4 days.
Anyway she crawled out on my carpet away from the logs.

Part of me wanted to stamp on her. I didn't. I gathered her up on some
wood and put her outside. No doubt to go back to my woodheap. I like wasps.
Normally.

Tina



Anyw


Ouch! That's very unfortunate, Tina, but I'm glad you spared it's life.
I was stung by a wasp in the garden years ago and it was incredibly
painful. I was in shock, and felt unwell for about five days. Like
you, though, I like them and frequently rescue them from being trapped
indoors, or drowning. They are very useful insects. It's a pity they
eat spiders, though :~{

I hope your finger is getting better.

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I was stung by a wasp in the garden years ago and it was incredibly
painful. I was in shock, and felt unwell for about five days. Like you,
though, I like them and frequently rescue them from being trapped indoors,
or drowning. They are very useful insects.
Spider


And they attack and rob bee-hives :-(

Bill


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I was stung by a wasp in the garden years ago and it was incredibly
painful. I was in shock, and felt unwell for about five days. Like you,
though, I like them and frequently rescue them from being trapped
indoors, or drowning. They are very useful insects.
Spider


And they attack and rob bee-hives :-(

That's hornets. I saw them do it in Germany.




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Christina Websell wrote:
And they attack and rob bee-hives :-(

That's hornets. I saw them do it in Germany.


That may be hornets as well, but it's definitely wasps. I've seen them do
it, in the UK.


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Christina Websell wrote:
And they attack and rob bee-hives :-(

That's hornets. I saw them do it in Germany.


That may be hornets as well, but it's definitely wasps. I've seen them do
it, in the UK.


I never saw hornets until I was in Germany, they are serious predators of
bees, my friend had bees and the hornets were at the hive all the time.
Looking at the access and seeing if if was possible to get in.
Tina




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On 02/01/2012 17:34, Bill Grey wrote:
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I was stung by a wasp in the garden years ago and it was incredibly
painful. I was in shock, and felt unwell for about five days. Like you,
though, I like them and frequently rescue them from being trapped indoors,
or drowning. They are very useful insects.
Spider


And they attack and rob bee-hives :-(

Bill


So do humans.

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On 02/01/2012 17:34, Bill Grey wrote:
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I was stung by a wasp in the garden years ago and it was incredibly
painful. I was in shock, and felt unwell for about five days. Like
you,
though, I like them and frequently rescue them from being trapped
indoors,
or drowning. They are very useful insects.
Spider


And they attack and rob bee-hives :-(

Bill


So do humans.


How Sweet :-)
Bill


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Sacha wrote:
I was stung by a wasp in the garden years ago and it was incredibly
painful. I was in shock, and felt unwell for about five days. Like you,
though, I like them and frequently rescue them from being trapped indoors,
or drowning. They are very useful insects.
Spider


And they attack and rob bee-hives :-(

But the bees gang up and kill them. I watched my bees do it and very
Hitchcock it was. Of course, the trouble is, the bees die, too. ;-(


Nick lost his queen before CHristmas to a wasp attack. He was given a new
one just after Christmas, but the hive didn't take to her, and 2 days later
she was dead too. :-(
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Sacha wrote:
But the bees gang up and kill them. I watched my bees do it and very
Hitchcock it was. Of course, the trouble is, the bees die, too. ;-(


Nick lost his queen before CHristmas to a wasp attack. He was given a new
one just after Christmas, but the hive didn't take to her, and 2 days later
she was dead too. :-(


I'm trying to remember my bee-keeping days and what the experts said
about that. I never experienced it myself but IIRC, it's better to take
the new queen with a small number of worker bees to form a new colony.


She was given to him with a small set of attendants.

I *think* the old colony will then produce queen cells of its own and
it's up to the apiarist to reduce those to one cell. I'm sure there
must be a bee keeping society in your area though.


It was the bee society people who gave him the new queen. Apparently it's
just "try your luck, they may take to her, they may not".


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Sacha wrote:
It was the bee society people who gave him the new queen. Apparently it's
just "try your luck, they may take to her, they may not".

Oh well, they must know what they're doing - bad luck on the queen
though. Can he take off a nucleus from his current hive and put it in
another instead of trying another new queen? These are suggestions
only from me - it's a long time since I kept bees but afaik, that does
work but it would mean having two hives/colonies.


I'm confused. You mean ending up with 2 queenless hives? His plan, I
think, is to try and integrate his queenless hive with his other 2 hives
(elsewhere), but the bee types are different, and they may not get on.
Although the queenless ones are New Zealand bees, and are apparently very
submissive, so they may be ok.
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"Spider" wrote in message
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I was stung by a wasp in the garden years ago and it was incredibly
painful. I was in shock, and felt unwell for about five days. Like
you,
though, I like them and frequently rescue them from being trapped
indoors,
or drowning. They are very useful insects.
Spider


And they attack and rob bee-hives :-(

Bill


But the bees gang up and kill them. I watched my bees do it and very
Hitchcock it was. Of course, the trouble is, the bees die, too. ;-(
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South Devon


A local bee-keeper used to be only too glad to get rid of wasp nests because
of the damage they caused to his hives.

Bill


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indoors, or drowning. They are very useful insects. It's a pity they
eat spiders, though :~{


The common garden orb-web spider makes up for that by eating a good many
wasps. It's nature's way.

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indoors, or drowning. They are very useful insects. It's a pity they
eat spiders, though :~{


The common garden orb-web spider makes up for that by eating a good many
wasps. It's nature's way.



Yes, I've seen wasps in spider's nests. I have trouble knowing which
way to cheer :~/

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Ouch! That's very unfortunate, Tina, but I'm glad you spared it's life. I
was stung by a wasp in the garden years ago and it was incredibly painful.
I was in shock, and felt unwell for about five days. Like you, though, I
like them and frequently rescue them from being trapped indoors, or
drowning. They are very useful insects. It's a pity they eat spiders,
though :~{

I hope your finger is getting better.


Took 7 days but OK now.




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