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After all his training the son wants to join the army! Guardsman in the
Coldstreams or Grenadiers. I ask myself :Why?
I know he is not happy with the career choice with not seeing his family as
often as he likes but for freeeks sake, he will see them less in the army,
even though they will have married quarters.

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After all his training the son wants to join the army! Guardsman in the
Coldstreams or Grenadiers. I ask myself :Why?
I know he is not happy with the career choice with not seeing his family
as
often as he likes but for freeeks sake, he will see them less in the army,
even though they will have married quarters.

Baz



What's wrong with the Army?

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On Feb 1, 2:09*pm, "'Mike'" wrote:
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After all his training the son wants to join the army! Guardsman in the
Coldstreams or Grenadiers. I ask myself :Why?
I know he is not happy with the career choice with not seeing his family
as
often as he likes but for freeeks sake, he will see them less in the army,
even though they will have married quarters.


Baz


What's wrong with the Army?

He could get killed. Obviously.

Safer in tanks. A nieghbour of mine has a Russian tank, Looks great
fun.
It does about two mpg. He doesn't drive it to work :-)
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After all his training the son wants to join the army! Guardsman in the
Coldstreams or Grenadiers. I ask myself :Why?
I know he is not happy with the career choice with not seeing his
family
as
often as he likes but for freeeks sake, he will see them less in the
army,
even though they will have married quarters.


Baz


What's wrong with the Army?

He could get killed. Obviously.

Safer in tanks. A nieghbour of mine has a Russian tank, Looks great
fun.
It does about two mpg. He doesn't drive it to work :-)


He could get killed driving .......................................
He could get killed as a Fireman.
He could get killed working on the Railway

The services are a great life. Far more camaraderie and help from the mates
you are serving with than the people you work with in Civvie Street. :-(((

Mike


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On Feb 1, 4:50*pm, Janet wrote:
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After all his training the son wants to join the army! Guardsman in the
Coldstreams or Grenadiers. I ask myself :Why?
I know he is not happy with the career choice with not seeing his family as
often as he likes but for freeeks sake, he will see them less in the army,
even though they will have married quarters.


* *Don't worry too much Baz; the Army are bound to wonder the same thing,
and suss that out themselves.
* *If he is earning now, my advice would be to invest in a private consult
with a really good professional careers advisor.

* *Janet


My son wes in the Army, Royal Artilery, did around 10 years, Went in
as a survayor, then qualified as an instructor for 4 trades.
When he left he got trained and now works as an oceanographic
surveyor, spending around half of the year in the Gulf of Mexico
amongst other places around the world.
He was broke one winter and had 3 weeks leave due so he signed up for
Ski training and was taught to Ski, cost him around £10.00
Tell him to go for it.
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After all his training the son wants to join the army! Guardsman in the
Coldstreams or Grenadiers.


If he can get into the Guards, he's doing well from the kick-off.

And as others have said, the enormous side-benefits are (compared to
other prospects) without number.

_Of course_ he runs the dangers of death or being maimed: he knows that.
A lot of people today talk as though such things "didn't ought to exist"
--- we must be the first generation (and the only country) on earth who
can't deal with such prospects. Your Dad, and perhaps your Grandad may
have said your son must be mad -- but the army that they knew was
completely different to this one, for several very good reasons. And
what's more their generations had alternative employments open.

*Good* for your son: let us know if he makes the cut for the Guards.


[What's this got to do with gardening?]

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You say "After all his training",
As what?
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On Feb 1, 7:38*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
You say *"After all his training",
As what?


Policeman wasn't it?
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On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:58:19 GMT, Baz wrote:

Policeman wasn't it?


Yes, and he is not happy all of a sudden.
I think that he has realised how much of a cess pit we live in. The
violence in a high street after the pubs have closed and how to deal
with it ...


Aye, being a town or city center cop must be pretty horrible. Even
out here the police complain about being surrogate parents having to
take ****ed up youngsters home. I don't think they'd mind so much if
it was different youngsters occasionally but its the same ones time
and time again.

TBH the Army has a lot more in its favour than the Police and I
wouldn't be surprised to find less risk of being killed or injured
than an inner city cop.

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On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:58:19 GMT, Baz wrote:

harry wrote in news:b1d29570-c4c4-4ff8-8c8e-
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On Feb 1, 7:38*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
You say *"After all his training",
As what?


Policeman wasn't it?


Yes, and he is not happy all of a sudden.
I think that he has realised how much of a cess pit we live in. The
violence in a high street after the pubs have closed and how to deal with
it when the kebab shop has a queue and some drunken yobs take a swing at a
female community cop when they surely are stronger than the lass. Then it's
taser, and warnings about it. Pure violence for violence sake. And then
there are riots...

Baz


I wonder though, Baz, whether the army will be that different. By the
time your son finishes his army training Britain should be pulling out
of Afghanistan and unless something similar crops up, "active" service
may well be limited to joining UN or NATO peacekeeping missions -
dealing with on-the-street issues. It'll just be that instead of
someone taking a swing they'll fire a gun or lob a grenade. I doubt
he'll get much satisfaction from changing guard at Buckingham Palace.

Still, he's got to find his own niche and good luck to him wherever
that is.

Cheers, Jake
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On Feb 2, 11:30*am, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:58:19 GMT, Baz wrote:
harry wrote in news:b1d29570-c4c4-4ff8-8c8e-
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On Feb 1, 7:38*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
You say *"After all his training",
As what?


Policeman wasn't it?


Yes, and he is not happy all of a sudden.
I think that he has realised how much of a cess pit we live in. The
violence in a high street after the pubs have closed and how to deal with
it when the kebab shop has a queue and some drunken yobs take a swing at a
female community cop when they surely are stronger than the lass. Then it's
taser, and warnings about it. Pure violence for violence sake. And then
there are riots...


Baz


I wonder though, Baz, whether the army will be that different. By the
time your son finishes his army training Britain should be pulling out
of Afghanistan and unless something similar crops up, "active" service
may well be limited to joining UN or NATO peacekeeping missions -
dealing with on-the-street issues. It'll just be that instead of
someone taking a swing they'll fire a gun or lob a grenade. I doubt
he'll get much satisfaction from changing guard at Buckingham Palace.

Still, he's got to find his own niche and good luck to him wherever
that is.

Cheers, Jake
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I'd have thought that with his background he would be able to get into
the Milatary Police, his experience should count .
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On Feb 2, 10:58*am, Baz wrote:
harry wrote in news:b1d29570-c4c4-4ff8-8c8e-
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On Feb 1, 7:38*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
You say *"After all his training",
As what?


Policeman wasn't it?


Yes, and he is not happy all of a sudden.
I think that he has realised how much of a cess pit we live in. The
violence in a high street after the pubs have closed and how to deal with
it when the kebab shop has a queue and some drunken yobs take a swing at a
female community cop when they surely are stronger than the lass. Then it's
taser, and warnings about it. Pure violence for violence sake. And then
there are riots...

Baz


The army is reducing it's strength these days.
Probably like a lot of young people hasn't a clue what to do with his
life.
Jusr restless.
I was the same. He will settle down.
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I'd have thought that with his background he would be able to get into
the Milatary Police, his experience should count .


That's the point.
He has had some chats with his boss and he wants to diversify, but it can only be done after his "Apprenticeship" which can be a long time in a
young mans life. The Military police would be a step backwards. How many people get a chance like he has?
He has to take the everyday life as a copper for a couple of years, and learn the ropes, THEN he can choose the path.
Some coppers make do with nicking some idiot with no lights on their bike or some sod who goes over 30 in a limit. These are crucial but not what my
son wants in long term job satisfaction.
He has to dig in and ride these informative years, and he will.
We havn't spent (as tax payers) all of this money to train a washout.

Baz
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