No, I know you weren't trying to change things, but given that it isn't the norm in the newsgroup for a thread to stay on topic, asking people to stay on topic does sound like you're trying to change things, and, from this side of the fence, sounds a wee bit rude.

But now we've sorted out the confusion, there's no problem. Hopefully you'll get the answer you need, just relax about all the other advice that you don't want, and remember too that there's an army of "lurkers" out there who may not know as much about sumach as you, and for whom all the information on suckering etc will be useful.

I didnt ask anyone to stay on topic. Im not the sort of person to recieve rude comments on a gardening forum of all places and siliently brood about it. I did nothing wrong and wasnt rude. If people got confused with what I wrote then thats that. As ive said I was confused about the purpose of this website. After comments from my friends/family Ive come to the conclusion the negativity from here is probably an age related issue, as im only 25 and couldnt possibly know anything about horticulture!

We didn't know your age and you don't know the age of anyone on here, so that's not a valid conclusion.

I've tried to explain why, although you had no intention to be rude, your comments did seem presumptuous - and "helpful comments only people" and similar responses sound remarkably like a request to stay on topic!

I quoted my age in my opening paragraph. Thank you for your advice.

Oh, right, so you did! It didn't register with me, so none of my comments were based on your age.

In article , Dean25.a4d5e96
@gardenbanter.co.uk says...

.. I CREATED this
thread with the intention of aquiring suckers from someone local, I
didnt CREATE this thread to discuss Sumachs with people.

You have created this thread in a discussion group which exists purely,
for other people to discuss plants, gardens, and garden related issues.


Janet

On 12/06/2012 22:46, Janet wrote:
In , Dean25.a4d5e96
@gardenbanter.co.uk says...

. I CREATED this
thread with the intention of aquiring suckers from someone local, I
didnt CREATE this thread to discuss Sumachs with people.

You have created this thread in a discussion group which exists purely,
for other people to discuss plants, gardens, and garden related issues.


Janet


This is getting childish.
The thread was created in Garden Banter and followed up here,
There is a hell of a lot of off topic trash being posted under various
headings that has little or nothing to do with gardening etc but we put
up with it.
Give the OP a chance and just let it drop.
David Hill @ the damp end of Swansea who is getting ****ed off with all
the tripe in this news group.

In article ,
says...

On 12/06/2012 22:46, Janet wrote:
In , Dean25.a4d5e96
@gardenbanter.co.uk says...

. I CREATED this
thread with the intention of aquiring suckers from someone local, I
didnt CREATE this thread to discuss Sumachs with people.

You have created this thread in a discussion group which exists purely,
for other people to discuss plants, gardens, and garden related issues.


Janet


This is getting childish.
The thread was created in Garden Banter

... where he ignored GB's sticky and FAQ

and followed up here,
There is a hell of a lot of off topic trash being posted under various
headings that has little or nothing to do with gardening etc but we put
up with it.

You're forever complaining about spam and OT trash most of us never
see; you've been given endless advice how to do the same.

However, when a gardening thread appears, there is every reason for the
gardeners here to join in and discuss the topic of sumach... which they
did in perfectly normal fashion, until the OP rudely rejected their input.

I'm far from the only regular gardening poster who objected to that.


Janet.

On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:46:44 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article , Dean25.a4d5e96
says...

. I CREATED this
thread with the intention of aquiring suckers from someone local, I
didnt CREATE this thread to discuss Sumachs with people.

You have created this thread in a discussion group which exists purely,
for other people to discuss plants, gardens, and garden related issues.


"other people" - eh? Just tell him he is not welcome and be done with it.


(I of course think that he is spot on having been on the receiving end of some
of your less than helpful comments)

What a horrible place to be this is.

In article , jmsmith2011
@hotmail.co.uk says...

On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:46:44 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article , Dean25.a4d5e96
says...

. I CREATED this
thread with the intention of aquiring suckers from someone local, I
didnt CREATE this thread to discuss Sumachs with people.

You have created this thread in a discussion group which exists purely,
for other people to discuss plants, gardens, and garden related issues.


"other people" - eh? Just tell him he is not welcome and be done with it.

Anyone is welcome to discuss growing rhus typhina even if they don't
have it in their garden, or don't intend to supply one to Dean.

Janet

On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 Sacha wrote:

On 2012-06-13 19:55:15 +0100, Judith said:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:46:44 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article , Dean25.a4d5e96
@gardenbanter.co.uk says...
. I CREATED this
thread with the intention of aquiring suckers from someone local, I
didnt CREATE this thread to discuss Sumachs with people.
You have created this thread in a discussion group which exists
purely,
for other people to discuss plants, gardens, and garden related issues.
"other people" - eh? Just tell him he is not welcome and be done
with it.
(I of course think that he is spot on having been on the receiving
end of some
of your less than helpful comments)

I think it's fair to say that everyone is welcome in urg and that most
urglers try to be helpful. But if they come via e.g. Gardenbanter it
may help *them* to realise that they're not in a straight question and
answer situation. Because this is a discussion-about-gardening group,
they will get a lot of opinions, some of which conflict! What they
won't get, usually, is Answer B to Question A.

That, I think, is the most sensible answer in this whole thread.

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk

In article , Sacha
writes
I think it's fair to say that everyone is welcome in urg and that most
urglers try to be helpful. But if they come via e.g. Gardenbanter it
may help *them* to realise that they're not in a straight question and
answer situation. Because this is a discussion-about-gardening group,
they will get a lot of opinions, some of which conflict! What they
won't get, usually, is Answer B to Question A.
--
Sacha


Gardening is like that though. I've just been to a garden centre where
people having been piling the most hideous mix (to my eyes) of bedding
and hanging basket plants onto their trollies, without much though for
whether the plants are all for sunny positions or for shady areas and
intend, from their remarks, them to all be placed together.

However they may not like my carefully co-ordinated pastel colour
schemes either but each to his own
--
Janet Tweedy

On 12/06/2012 16:58, Dean25 wrote:
Janet;961444 Wrote:
In article , Dean25.a4c6176
@gardenbanter.co.uk says...-

Janet;961348 Wrote: -
In article , Dean25.a4bb8b6
@gardenbanter.co.uk says...
-
Im really just looking for replies from people who have the tree!
Helpful comments only people!-

You appear to be under the delusion you have reached the customer
advisory desk at a garden centre dedicated to serving you.

This is a discussion group, called uk.rec.gardening, which is
completely independent of gardenbanter.

There is no membership, no moderator, anyone here is free to DISCUSS
rhus
typhina whether or not what they say is relevent to your
post.Gardenbanter
has no control over what is discussed here, or who replies, and
neither
do
you.


Janet.-

Your incredibly rude Janet.-

But the really annoying thing, is that I'm right.
-
I had never used this site before until last
night-

If she puts you off using Garden banter then so much the better.

Does that give you some right to jump in feet first and behave like a

spoiled two year old? Not here it doesn't. This is NOT A "SITE".

Janet

You are deluded janet, My comment : "helpful comments only" was directed
at the person who advised me too burn down any sumachs, after I had
quoted it was my favourite tree in my opening paragraph. I CREATED this
thread with the intention of aquiring suckers from someone local, I
didnt CREATE this thread to discuss Sumachs with people. Thats not being
rude, its being honest. If I misunderstood the purpose of this website,
I fail to see how that is your concern? You obviously have a serious
attitude problem and if you cant say anything nice, might I suggest you
say nothing at all???

The problem is that the website you are posting though is a parasitic
feed to a much older Usenet news service. Some of the posters here are
decidedly tetchy about people describing it as a "SITE" since it is not
one and never has been. Garden-b*nter and for that matter all the other
parasitic banter sites grab original material from Usenet without
permission and repost it as is if it was their own on a website.

You should pay attention to what Nick said about Sumac being something
of a nuisance. I have grown it constrained without too much problem but
it does sucker heavily and the thick resiny sap can be sensitising to
some people but far less so than the other members of Anacardaceae which
includes the closely related poison oak and ivy and lacquer tree.
Urushiol is not something to take lightly it is in the same sort of
chemical weapon class as mustard gas but naturally made by plants. It is
also the basis of Japanese lacquerware - harmless once polymerised.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacardiaceae

Cashew nuts come from the type species and includes a warning about how
to roast the nuts to detoxify them whilst avoiding the smoke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cashew

I would not burn sumac either.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Thank you for your advice, as ive mentioned I was totally confused about where I was posting etc, it was very confusing. I know a good deal about Rhus species and Although it is unpopular, that doesnt bother me. I love the Furry new growth, The seedheads, the architecture of the tree, the red autumn leaves, everything about them really! And im sure I will manage to scrump some suckers soon enough :-) I have heard alot of warnings about how poisonous they are actually.